PhillyKev 0 #51 July 1, 2004 As much as you want to deny it, ignoring the existing racial inequality, and fighting against any efforst to rectify it, IS supporting racial discrimination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #52 July 1, 2004 Think that if you like. If that were truly the case, surely someone on the left could come out and state their unabashed support of racial discrimination. For kicks, they could do it on courthouse steps in Alabama. Put on a deep Southern drawl and say , "Racial discrimination now. Racial discrimination tomorrow. Racial discrimination forever." Then they could go on to explain to us how they're really NOT racially prejudiced bigots, they're actually not prejudiced at all. All the rest of us are, and we must rely on THEM to keep us mere mortals in line, hence their unabashed support of racial discrimination. Whatever. Your assertion that not supporting racial discriminatory programs is racial discrimination in itself is laughable. Tell that lie to those that will believe it - I don't. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #53 July 1, 2004 Quote In another thread, someone made it clear that he'll select a candidate with a lower GPA who put himself through school -- that's a valid criterium for some jobs, and it makes it clear that pointing out inferior GPA as a sign of racial discrimination is using what serves a current agenda. Wendy W. You, just a few posts back were just saying that poorer school standards were the cause of this - OK- so - lets look at it another way - from a rela life stand point - this happened to me. I used to do drywall, and had a small drywall company in South Carolina. I tried for a small buisness loan, (Back when I had credit), I wanted 25,000 for equipment and renovation of an office space. I was denied. Flat. No questions. The reason why is that my "Credit score" was not high enough. I asked how they calculated that. I was given the formula. This is where it gets funny. I would have had to have had a BETTER THAN PERFECT SCORE to qualify for this loan. I then decided it was not worth it to even try to continue being in that buisness, so I sold some of my equipment to a friend of mine - sold my company name for $150 dollars to him - actually he was one of three employees. It gets richer here. He had just had his truck repoed - lost his house and was in the middle of a bankruptcy after defaulting on a previous small buisness loan. He was approved for the same loan that I was not. Why?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #54 July 1, 2004 Conservatives support the maintenance of a system that has racial discrimination embedded into it. They just all look the other way because then it doesn't exist. Yes, I know that was a small-minded and sharp comment, generalizing about a lot of conservatives who don't in any way support racism. But it looks like such fun when you do it -- there are almost always smileys. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #55 July 1, 2004 QuoteHe was approved for the same loan that I was not. Why? I imagine there was an SDB incentive involved, and you were lied to by the people whom you were trying to get the work from by omission. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #56 July 1, 2004 QuoteQuoteHe was approved for the same loan that I was not. Why? I imagine there was an SDB incentive involved, and you were lied to by the people whom you were trying to get the work from by omission. Wendy W. I wasn't trying to get work from anyone, I had plenty - I had 4 houses and a small office complex, and a mini mart on the books for the next mont and a half. Actually they were very apologetic - they said there was nothing they could do, and it would not do any good to apply again anytime soon. The standards for the criteria were set by the state. Define racial discrimination again, please.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #57 July 1, 2004 I misready your post, sorry . Thought it was about a contract. It still sounds like you were lied to. Interestingly enough, that kind of thing happens a lot to minorities, too. And women. Seems they're less likely to go hunting, fishing, or golfing with the bankers most of the time. Look at how many of the high-dollar loans for real estate speculation during the 80's that were defaulted on went to white men vs. minorities. I'm sure they all had impeccable credentials, too. But that's pretty blatant, I completely agree. I'd be pissed as hell. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #58 July 1, 2004 QuoteJustify your support of racial discrimination however you like. Conservatives don't support racial discrimination - lefties do. Is that why, when civil rights legislation passed by Democrats gave blacks the ability to sit on the same part of the bus as whites in the south, and the vote without having to pass a trumped-up test, the southern whites suddenly became staunch Republicans.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #59 July 1, 2004 I'm sorry. I was under the impression this was 2004. Byrd didn't become a Republican, by the way. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #60 July 1, 2004 That's because I'm always smiling. Even when openly attacked here in the forums by some of its more volatile leftist denizens - not yourself, mind you. Conservatives do NOT support the maintenance of the current system. We support not judging anyone by their race, which is not the current system.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #61 July 1, 2004 QuoteThat's because I'm always smiling. Even when openly attacked here in the forums by some of its more volatile leftist denizens - not yourself, mind you. Conservatives do NOT support the maintenance of the current system. We support not judging anyone by their race, which is not the current system. Exactly - the current system is one that segregates because of beliefs that certain races cannot or WILL NOT do for them selves. So, in comes welfare, and free money - what does that encourage? If you gave a jumper 1000 free hop and pops from 3k and said, OK - I need you to pay for your own altitude loads - how many altitudes loads would he be on? How successful would they be at head down, or turning points in a four way. Take away the free hop and pops and what happens? The spectrum of ability would jump exponentialy.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #62 July 1, 2004 Could you please than explain to me why when Welfare begain in 1950, 30% of the population was below the poverty line and 40 years later, in 1990 it had declined to 10%, and why when Reagan instituted significant cut backs to welfare it stopped declining. Welfare is not perfect. Welfare is abused. But the VAST MAJORITY of welfare recipients use it as a stepping stone or short term crutch to get back on their feet and end up contribuing more back to society than they used in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #63 July 1, 2004 QuoteCould you please than explain to me why when Welfare begain in 1950, 30% of the population was below the poverty line and 40 years later, in 1990 it had declined to 10%, and why when Reagan instituted significant cut backs to welfare it stopped declining. Welfare is not perfect. Welfare is abused. But the VAST MAJORITY of welfare recipients use it as a stepping stone or short term crutch to get back on their feet and end up contribuing more back to society than they used in the first place. Technology - People simply lived on less - Are yu talking about what qualifies as poverty now - in $ figures, or what qualifies as poverty in style of living?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
