Ok Halliburton bashers...

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...who think the gov't is in the hip pocket of this oil giant. Let's put those oh-so-creative minds to work for a bit...

Imagine if you will, that you pick up your newspaper one morning and read that the Republican Party has given control of GWB's reelection campaign to Halliburton. It turns out that Halliburton is spending millions of corporate $$ - none of it collected from voluntary contributions - to finance ads and grassroots activity for the Republicans. Shareholders have neither been consulted nor given their approval for these expenditures. Halliburton employees also dominate the Bush campaign staff; they are on loan as full-time "volunteers," though they continue to draw their Halliburton salaries. In exchange for the huge amounts of money and other support Halliburton is providing, the president and his staff meet with Halliburton executives to coordinate the message for the reelection campaign. More important, the GOP has granted Big Oil veto power over the Republican platform, refusing to formalize the party's public policy positions and campaign strategies until Halliburton and other oil company donors have given their approval.

Would that piss you off? Would it? Would you vow NEVER to vote republican again? Let's add something to it - let's say that Halliburton's president is an avowed socialist and member of an organization that rejects any form of government based upon private profit. Said president frequently meets with a congressional caucus of republicans who are openly associated with a socialist party here in the United States. Would THAT piss you off? Let's also say that Halliburton reported ZERO POLITICAL EXPENDITURES on its tax returns whilst doing all of the aforementioned. Would THAT piss you off?

Well guess what! Replace Republicans with DemoKKKrats in the above scenario, and Halliburton with AFL-CIO or NEA and you have A REAL SCENARIO IN PLACE TODAY AND NOT AN IMAGINED FANTASY-STORY CREATED BY LEFT WING IDEOLOGUES!!!!!

Bwwaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!! Think on that the next time you think of bashing Halliburton and its imaginary control over the government.

Linda Chavez' new book is fantastic.

Yours in agave,

Vinny the Anvil

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[PhillyKev 0]

Slight problem with your analogy. AFLCIO and NEA are non-profit organizations whose sole purpose is to serve their members. Not a corporation whose sole purpose is to generate revenue.

Nice try though. Which right wing pundit made that one up for you?

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Linda Chavez' new book is fantastic

Ahh, that one. Try thinking and analyzing things on your own. You might actually find that you don't agree with everyone who has the uncanny ability to add KKK to the word democrat.

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That difference takes nothing away from my scenario. Try again.

Another difference between Halliburton and the unions is that Halliburton can't make someone give them money AGAINST THEIR WILL to be used for political causes with which they don't agree. Unions can - and do.

Who is it unions support again? Oh - demoKKKrats. That's right.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[TheAnvil 0]

The spelling 'demoKKKrat' is an Anvil creation which I haven't seen replicated as I've told you before.

I think on my own quite a bit and laugh AT your assertions that I don't.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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Another difference between Halliburton and the unions is that Halliburton can't make someone give them money AGAINST THEIR WILL to be used for political causes with which they don't agree.

First of all, union membership is voluntary, so I'm not sure how it is against their will. And secondly, does that mean I can ask Halliburton for my share of the money that they were given against my will to be used for a political cause in Iraq that I don't agree with?

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The spelling 'demoKKKrat' is an Anvil creation which I haven't seen replicated as I've told you before.

I think on my own quite a bit and laugh AT your assertions that I don't.

I see that the illusion you've created for yourself is complete.

demokkkrats

Only 7 pages of google links. Real original.

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First of all, union membership is voluntary, so I'm not sure how it is against their will.

Technically, I suppose that it is. But realistically, if you want to work in a union town it's not. You know that. When it's a choice between work and no work . . .

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[PhillyKev 0]

I thought you were one of the guys who says you should adapt or move.

Philly is one of the most union towns around. Hell, I know that intimately and you know that I do. I also know plenty of non-union workers who manage to make a living. It's harder, but if they don't agree with Union politics, they have that choice.

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Another difference between Halliburton and the unions is that Halliburton can't make someone give them money AGAINST THEIR WILL to be used for political causes with which they don't agree.

First of all, union membership is voluntary, so I'm not sure how it is against their will. And secondly, does that mean I can ask Halliburton for my share of the money that they were given against my will to be used for a political cause in Iraq that I don't agree with?

Oh puhlease. Union membership is voluntary? Yeah, only as long as you don't mind NOT WORKING in a given profession just because you don't want to pay to belong to the union!

That's hardly a "choice" of not belonging to the union. If it is effectively impossible to work in a field without joining a union, one is not truly free to decide whether to join. If one could work and do just as well IN or OUT of the union, THEN I'd say a person had a choice.

You're mincing words.

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[wmw999 2,587]

He said it was harder to work in some professions without union membership.

Just as it's harder to get an education if you live in a poor neighborhood with poor schools. Life is not equal for everyone. Some people have to work harder for the same result.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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That's bull.

I know plenty of carpenters and other tradesmen in the city that are non-union. They can't get the same contracts the union shops can, but they can still find work. In fact, they get many jobs that wouldn't go to Union companies because they can charge less.


Someone on here had a really good post about their personal experience of being in a Union for years, and then being an independent contractor outside the union. It boiled down to being paid more working in the union, but having to pay dues, or making less, but not paying dues. And in the end, it was a wash.

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The spelling 'demoKKKrat' is an Anvil creation which I haven't seen replicated as I've told you before.

Always run a Google search before trying out a trademark.

Your "creation" comes up quite a bit. My guess is you probably saw it first on FreeRepublic.com or some similar right-wing extremist web site, but it didn't register in your conscious, then, when you were trying to be clever in a post, you pulled it up from your subconsious and used it thinking you were being original. For the most part -- people are rarely original.

http://www.google.com/search?q=demoKKKrat&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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I don't object to the large influence that the unions have for the same reason that I don't understand the objections to the large influence that the NRA has.

Why are each powerful "special interest" groups? Because each has millions of dues paying members. In the case of the NRA, it is a totally voluntary choice. When you have a voting block that size, of course politicians listen to you. You are the electorate. It's their job to represent you. If they don't, you throw them out.

So sorry, I don't see a valid analogy to shareholders of a company. 1 in 50 Americans aren't shareholders of Halliburton.

[TheAnvil 0]

Union membership VOLUNTARY? What PLANET are you living on? Right to Work laws have been hot issues in MANY MANY MANY states. Get updated on current events.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[TheAnvil 0]

I'm so glad you cared enough to look up something so menial. I don't recall ever seeing it, but since it's so apropos, I'm glad other use it too.

Think anyone on the left will have the courage to come out and say 'I support racial discrimination because...' this year?

Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!

Suuuure they will. Right after they proclaim support for school vouchers at an NEA rally!

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[newsstand 0]

I really don't get the connection between KKK and Democrats. Seems in my Democrat life, child of Republicans, they are diametrically opposed. At least in the last 30 years or so, even here in Texas.

Speaking of Texas. If you want a non-union position move on down. Yes we have them but we are a "right to work" state. What a wonderful euphamisim (SP?) for you can quit or we can fire you and non-compete clauses are pretty much unenforceable unless the hiring employer wants to play along.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
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I really don't get the connection between KKK and Democrats.

Beyond the fact that democrats founded the KKK, and are the only party left today pushing racist ideals, I don't get it either.

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I'm so glad you cared enough to look up something so menial. I don't recall ever seeing it

Well, I thought that by pointing out to you that something you thought was an original thought of your's isn't, you might step back and take a look at what other ideas of your's are really just a product of propaganda.

[newsstand 0]

Republicans freed the slaves to but over the last fifty or more years they haven't exactly been the party of the blacks. Times change, people change, organizations change.

What racists ideas are they pushing now? Racial equality?

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

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The spelling 'demoKKKrat' is an Anvil creation which I haven't seen replicated as I've told you before.

Always run a Google search before trying out a trademark.

Your "creation" comes up quite a bit. My guess is you probably saw it first on FreeRepublic.com or some similar right-wing extremist web site, but it didn't register in your conscious, then, when you were trying to be clever in a post, you pulled it up from your subconsious and used it thinking you were being original. For the most part -- people are rarely original.

http://www.google.com/search?q=demoKKKrat&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Can you give me a link to a Right-Wing site you don't consider extremist?

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What racists ideas are they pushing now? Racial equality?

Affirmative Action no longer promotes racial equality, but just the opposite.

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I'm so glad you cared enough to look up something so menial. I don't recall ever seeing it

Well, I thought that by pointing out to you that something you thought was an original thought of your's isn't, you might step back and take a look at what other ideas of your's are really just a product of propaganda.

Can you prove the sites you cite didn't get the kkk from Vinny?

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Can you give me a link to a Right-Wing site you don't consider extremist?

www.foxnews.com

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Can you prove the sites you cite didn't get the kkk from Vinny?

Are you actually trying to give the guy who finishes his post with "I'm damn sexy" a bigger ego?

[wmw999 2,587]

Not the sites with a quick search, but I can see 861 references in google news search going back as far as 1992. I think I remember hearing that Vinny's in his late 20's, so it's likely he wasn't the first person to come up with the term.

Of course, the oldest post also says something about RepubliKKKans
Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)