Box Office MoJo -- Fahrenheit 9/11 weekend winner

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Number one at the box office this weekend despite the relatively low number of screens . . . pretty impressive no matter how you look at it.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=040627bo.htm

I have been too busy to see it myself yet, but I'll catch a screening tomorrow.

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[tunaplanet 0]

Yeah, it's like how people have to take look at a horrific accident. It may be ugly and horrible but people have to take a peak.

Forty-two

[Zenister 0]

seen it yet?

minds and parachutes.....

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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[Nightingale 0]

This was an awesome movie...

even the two die-hard bushite conservatives I talked into going have grudgingly admitted to me that they laughed, enjoyed the film, and have thought about the information presented.

[Nightingale 0]

you can call that movie many things, but ugly and horrible it is not.

the movie is very visually engaging, from a cinematic point of view. it is well edited, well scripted, has a great sound track, and is well directed.

if you meant to say that it doesn't agree with your political point of view, you're probably correct.

However, if you wish to discuss it further, go see it. I will be happy to buy you a ticket.

[Trent 0]

Be careful, remember... Millions and millions watch American Idol and Joe Shmoe. Just because millions have seen it and maybe even like it, doesn't mean it has any real value.

Maybe it does, I'll let you know...

Oh, hello again!

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Oh, to be sure.

Lots of peopple watch what I would consider to be crap programming and I have a difficult time understanding why people do that, but the facts remain that they do and it has a certain relevance to those people. The real question is how much influence it also has. For instance, I never really understood the series "Married with Children", but I also didn't really give a crap because I didn't think it would have any real influence over the planet.

It will be "interesting" so see what, if any, influence this movie has.

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[sundevil777 102]

Did you ever see the Nova specials that dispelled the myths from the Charles Berlitz movies 'Chariots of the Gods' and the 'Devil's Triangle'?

It was so clear that the movies were complete fabrications. He even admitted during a German interview for a magazine/whatever that using 'poetic license' is expected.

edit for spelling and to mention that my 7th grade class was taken to see these films as a field trip, can you believe that!

A similar expose should be made of Moore's films. There is a lot to expose.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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A similar expose should be made of Moore's films. There is a lot to expose.

Well, I think anyone with an IQ over 75 will realize Moore is presenting a very skewed view and a selective representation of the facts, but they are facts. GWB really did say all the things he said in the movie -- that's incredibly well documented. Those are facts that can't be disputed no matter how unfair they may seem.

It's -exactly- like the argument we were having yesterday though over the the "dem" quotes regarding WMDs.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

For the record, I haven't seen it and have no desire to. I didn't have to see "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" to know what it was about either.

I'd put F9-11 in the same catagory as Oliver Stones "JFK" facts mixed in with the authors own slanted and skewed version. Do you know their are still people who believe most of Stones theories even though most of it has been debunked?

[mr2mk1g 10]

I make it a point to never bitch about a movie until I've seen it. I might just be talking arse and not know it. That would be very embarrassing.

I don't think that principal changes simply because a movie is about politics as opposed to a child left at home over Christmas on his own, to defend the family home from a pair of bungling burglars whence hilarity ensues.

If you've not seen the film, your comments are a tertiary insight. You might just find yourself talking arse.

[PhillyKev 0]

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Well, I think anyone with an IQ over 75 will realize Moore is presenting a very skewed view and a selective representation of the facts, but they are facts.

Not to mention, Moore states that repeatedly.

[turtlespeed 226]

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However, if you wish to discuss it further, go see it. I will be happy to buy you a ticket.

Sure, I'll take you up on that.
I WILL NOT pay to see it, but I would sit through it just to see how radical the left has become.

There is a Cinemark here - so what ever arangements can be made through them.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I would sit through it just to see how radical the left has become.

What makes you think MM represents "the left?" He represents his own viewpoint. Yes, he's left-of-center, but I doubt there are a lot of independent people who think down-the-line like him, just as the folks who think down-the-line like Rush are called dittoheads.

Of course, those of us on the "left" don't think "dittohead" is a compliment

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[turtlespeed 226]

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Of course, those of us on the "left" don't think "dittohead" is a compliment

Wendy W.

Oh.
Here I thought you were agreeing with me and giving me compliments.

Side Note: I can't wait till Sky Fest

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Nightingale 0]

ok. cool.

call them and find out if they can issue a gift certificate that's good for a particular movie only, or if I can phone them and buy you a ticket with a credit card.

otherwise, go see it, PM me a synopsis and your opinions, and I'll paypal you the cost of the ticket, if that's ok (or put the amount on your account at the dropzone, if you'd prefer)

[turtlespeed 226]

Just come to Aggieland, I'll go with you.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Nightingale 0]

if you come to california, I'll go with you, and I'll buy you a jump at Perris or Elsinore.

Otherwise, go see it, and I'll reimburse you for the cost of the ticket.

[turtlespeed 226]

sounds right.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kelpdiver 2]

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It will be "interesting" so see what, if any, influence this movie has.

Likely not much - people will see what they want to see, esp given the source.

The interesting question for me will be what will the dropoff be with next week's gate receipts. Did the movie shoot its wad all in the first week with the people that have been waiting months to see it, or will it get legs? I can say for a fact it won't beat Spiderman.

In any event, it made great money for a documentary so Harvey Weinstein will be thrilled - news maker and money maker. He's happy to lose money on a few provocative films a year.

[markd_nscr986 0]

BFD......another michael moore "crock-umentary".

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

[happythoughts 0]

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Well, I think anyone with an IQ over 75 will realize Moore is presenting a very skewed view and a selective representation of the facts, but they are facts.

Scenario - MM catches you on the sidewalk in front of your house. He is making a "documentary" about skydiving. You are in a rush, heading for the dz to film something important, do you:

a) stop and talk to him and have him edit your words out of context to prove his point.
b) tell him you are too busy and have him subtly hint that you have something to hide.
c) believe it will make a difference what you do.

Everything in your interview will be "facts", will it represent the truth?

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Scenario - MM catches you on the sidewalk in front of your house. He is making a "documentary" about skydiving. You are in a rush, heading for the dz to film something important, do you:

a) stop and talk to him and have him edit your words out of context to prove his point.
b) tell him you are too busy and have him subtly hint that you have something to hide.
c) believe it will make a difference what you do.

Everything in your interview will be "facts", will it represent the truth?

Y'all gotta be kiddin' me -- right?

The problem in your scenario is that I actually know the answers I'd give him in advance and yes, it' makes a huge difference in what you do, but you're only talking about the ambush interview scenarios and as an investigative journalist those are only used as a last resort or, in the case of Michael Moore, a cheap shot.

I -just- came back from seeing the movie and he only, to my recollection, does the cheap shot ambush interview deal once in the whole movie. He tries to put folks on Capitol Hill on the spot by trying to get them to sign up their sons and daughters to serve in the military. Actually, he's making a fairly good point so, while it may seem a bit unfair to some, I dont' really see anything wrong with it.

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[tunaplanet 0]

It's funny people think this movie is doing well. It isn't.

Theaters are packed? Yes. Why? It only opened in about 800 theaters nationwide. That's why it's crowded. If it opened in 3-4K theaters like most mainstream flicks it would have been desolate.

Also, the movie really didn't have a great start. In the all-time list of opening revenue, it ranked 222. Not exactly mind-blowing. At 222 it sits nestled between Tomb Raider 2 (223) and Legally Blonde 2 (221). Not exactly earth-shattering.

But the media will make you believe it's the hottest thing since swiss cheese. Don't be fooled. Use your head and read. It's doing mediocre at best.

I know, I know, the liberal sheep are going to shout from the mountain tops, "But your comparing it to regular movies...this is a documentary!!!!!." Sorry, but it isn't. Documentaries don't stage incidents and use crafty editing to deceive others.

I know, I know, another cry/whine from the sheep will be, "All documentaries stretch the truth!!!!!." Uh, no they don't. There are some out there that do this. And guess what? Those aren't documentaries either. Check out some documentaries by Errol Morris. He is one of the best at making documentaries. His works are factual and very educational. Nowhere where you see him lying and misleading others. Not to mention he is a genius filmmaker...something Michael Moron will never be.

Forty-two

[PhillyKev 0]

Weekend Box Office Estimates (U.S.)
Jun 25 - 27 weekend View Last Week's Actuals
This
Wk Last
Wk Title Dist. Weekend
Gross Cumulative
Gross Rlse
Wks # of
Theaters
1 - Fahrenheit 9/11 LIONS $21,800,000 $21,958,000 1 868
2 - White Chicks SONY $19,600,000 $27,103,000 1 2726
3 1 Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story FOX $18,500,000 $67,170,726 2 3020
4 2 The Terminal D'WORKS $13,900,000 $41,800,000 2 2914
5 - The Notebook NL $13,025,000 $13,025,000 1 2303
6 3 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban WB $11,420,000 $211,710,000 4 3404
7 4 Shrek 2 D'WORKS $10,500,000 $397,100,000 6 2937
8 5 Garfield FOX $7,000,000 $55,770,278 3 2880
9 - Two Brothers UNIV $6,200,000 $6,200,000 1 2175
10 7 The Stepford Wives PARA $5,200,000 $49,005,000 3 2437
11 9 Around the World in 80 Days BV $4,258,000 $18,265,000 2 2801
12 8 The Day After Tomorrow FOX $4,250,000 $175,121,408 5 2212