cloudseeker2001 0 #1 June 28, 2004 Exactly why people should FIRE GWB and hire John Kerry! http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/24/judges.remarks.ap/index.html "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #2 June 28, 2004 Because an judge said something unethical and that's flat wrong? QuoteIn a letter to the rest of the appeals judges, [Chief Judge] Walker said Calabresi's "off-the-cuff" comments had been viewed as a call to oppose Bush's re-election. He warned them to refrain from political activity or public endorsements because partisan political comments violate the Code of Judicial Conduct. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #3 June 28, 2004 QuoteExactly why people should FIRE GWB and hire John Kerry! Yea, I agree! An idiot liberal judge makes an assinine comment about Bush, then apologizes for it, so let's fire Bush! Whatever you're smokin', can you pass it around please? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #4 June 28, 2004 Ummmmmm, no, you missed the point. The point of the article is how GWB came to power without the consent of the majority, how it relates to Hitler, and most important, why Democracy should be restored to our institution. Do you know how Hitler came to power? Not the fact that the judge crap'd out and gave in. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #5 June 28, 2004 Ah geez. Not this again. Every recount done in Florida by whatever news media, by whosever standards about hanging chads, or chads with scratches on them, or whatever else puts GWB ahead in the Florida election. You want an election conspiracy theory? Try this one: The left 'slanted' news media, fully knowing that Florida was a razor thin state with enough electors to push Gore over the top, deliberately called Florida early for Al Gore to demoralize the Republican voters and energize the remaining Democrats. By doing that they cost GWB several states in the Mid-West and West, several house and senate seats, squashed additional Republican 'get out the vote' campaigns and destroyed a landslide GWB election. But like I said, that's just a conspiracy theory. Al Gore LOST. And no, I am not a republican and I did not vote for GWB. I'm just tired of hearing this again and again. You want to prevent this stuff in the future? Go to 6am to 6am polling with results released after 9am EST when all the polls close. Alaska and Hawaii, well, maybe they do 9pm to 9pm or something like that. No excuses for not voting anymore, no early calls, no projections. They can have their victory parties and get smashed before lunch instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #6 June 28, 2004 Counseling is available.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #7 June 28, 2004 QuoteExactly why people should FIRE GWB and hire John Kerry! http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/24/judges.remarks.ap/index.html Godwin's Law: prov. [Usenet] “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #8 June 28, 2004 Quote...GWB came to power without the consent of the majority If "majority" means more than 50% of the vote, Clinton didn't get a majority the two times he was elected prez either. I guess this is a debate better suited for 3 years ago, but... I like how the electoral college is a bad idea to the Gore supporters only after it helped W get elected even while losing the overall popular vote. So for all of you out there who squawk on about how Gore got more total votes than W, what exactly have you done to try to reform the system in the 3+ years since? But don't get me wrong. I too buy into the side that says in today's day and age, we should elect the prez on straight up popular vote. It's just that in 2000, the system was the electoral college, and you can't cry about it afterward just cuz your guy didn't win. Just imo. Btw, the layout of the punchcards in Palm Beach, Florida which confused many reg dems in Florida to vote for Buchanan (of all people) were designed and approved by the local Democratic Party commission. The Miami Herald did they own complete recount (the one the dems said the supremes stole) and determined that Bush won. Boy would we have heard about it had the Herald determined it was Gore. But no, Bush, so of course silence... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #9 June 28, 2004 Here you go enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 June 28, 2004 QuoteHere you go enjoy. Very mature of you. Now go back to your sand box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #11 June 28, 2004 Didn't I just prove your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #12 June 28, 2004 Heya Jeff. I really wish folks who oppose GWB would stick to the important things.... what's going on NOW.... than still dwell on the 2000 election. I followed that whole saga quite a bit and by most reasonable standards (and Gore's standard, which was pretty ridiculous IMHO) GWB legitimately won the election. I'm OK with that. I'm also OK with having voted for him at the time, because at the time GWB presented himself as a moderate, a unifier, a consesus-builder. Then he sold his soul to the far right. GWB should be fired because he lied. He lied about how he was going to run this government. He lied about getting this government out of my personal life. He lied about running this government in a fiscally responsible manner. He lied about improving upon the Clinton administration's sorry foreign policy record (which now seems brilliant in comparison). He lied about the reasons for which we went to war with Iraq. It was terrorism... no, it was WMD... no, it was to free the poor, oppressed, Iraqi people... no, wait, it was terrorism.... This is an administration founded upon lies, moral agendas and cronyism. THIS is why GWB must be fired. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #13 June 28, 2004 The man certainly needs it, I agree. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #14 June 28, 2004 Hilter came to power by having opposition to his party dealt with by brownshirts. Let me know when important Democrats start disappearing in the night. Oh, by the way, if Kerry wins by the standards of the electoral college, but not with a majority of the popular vote, are you going to piss and moan for the next four years? Or will that be ok because he's your candidate? If you don't like the rules, change the rules. Don't blame the man who won playing by them.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #15 June 28, 2004 QuoteI too buy into the side that says in today's day and age, we should elect the prez on straight up popular vote. Without the current system, low population density areas would receive little to no attention by the candidates. All that would matter would be the large urban centers with urban needs and issues at stake. The needs of N. Dakota wouldn't matter a bit if it was a simple popular vote method. I think it is a very good thing to distribute/balance power in this way.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #16 June 28, 2004 Quote]Hilter came to power by having opposition to his party dealt with by brownshirts. Let me know when important Democrats start disappearing in the night. Dude, did you realize that we have now made it legal for govt agents to make people disappear in the night????? I wonder if there is an offical memo floating around Homeland Security banning the wearing of brown shirts ...or if it's just a understood sort of thing. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #17 June 28, 2004 QuoteThe needs of N. Dakota wouldn't matter a bit if it was a simple popular vote method. N.Dakota matters? Did someone send a memo and I missed it? Actually the 3 people in N.Dakota would matter as much as three people in NY City...As it stands now the 3 people in N.Dakota have MORE weight than three in NYC....And that is wrong. But anyway...As someone pointed out....Bush won without the popular vote...just as did Clinton twice...I don't remember anyone bitching about it when Clinton won with the EC. And I have not seen anyone ty and change anything since 2000. Plus, why is it only Democrats had a problem understanding a simple ballot? One would think that BOTH parties would havs had people get confused... The ballots used were APROVED by the Democratic party...And were not an issue until AFTER they lost."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #18 June 28, 2004 QuoteGWB should be fired because he lied. He lied about how he was going to run this government. He lied about getting this government out of my personal life. He lied about running this government in a fiscally responsible manner. He lied about improving upon the Clinton administration's sorry foreign policy record (which now seems brilliant in comparison). He lied about the reasons for which we went to war with Iraq. It was terrorism... no, it was WMD... no, it was to free the poor, oppressed, Iraqi people... no, wait, it was terrorism.... This is an administration founded upon lies, moral agendas and cronyism. Bush lied only if 9/11 didn't change anything. You can't hold someone to plans interrupted by something Clinton failed to address after they tried it the first time. You also might want to look at the other post for how all the democrats lied too about Iraq, WMD, etc. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #19 June 28, 2004 QuoteYou also might want to look at the other post for how all the democrats lied too about Iraq, WMD, etc. Ahhh, the "but they did it too" argument. It's been at least 30 seconds since someone's used that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #20 June 28, 2004 Let's see what ALL OF YOU say after GWB gets re-elected. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #21 June 28, 2004 QuoteLet's see what ALL OF YOU say after GWB gets re-elected. Yep-"Dear Canadian/English/Irish Dept of Immigration and Naturalization..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #22 June 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteI too buy into the side that says in today's day and age, we should elect the prez on straight up popular vote. Without the current system, low population density areas would receive little to no attention by the candidates. All that would matter would be the large urban centers with urban needs and issues at stake. The needs of N. Dakota wouldn't matter a bit if it was a simple popular vote method. I think it is a very good thing to distribute/balance power in this way. A popular, but naive and incorrect, analysis of voting power.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 June 28, 2004 What an in depth analysis from one of the largest cities in the country... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #24 June 29, 2004 QuoteDude, did you realize that we have now made it legal for govt agents to make people disappear in the night????? Yeah, hardy har har. Like I said, let me know when prominent Democrats start disappearing in the night.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #25 June 29, 2004 QuotePlus, why is it only Democrats had a problem understanding a simple ballot? One would think that BOTH parties would havs had people get confused... The ballots used were APROVED by the Democratic party...And were not an issue until AFTER they lost. I live smack in the middle of Palm Beach County, Florida. I voted in that election. I still have the pristine sample ballot they mailed me. There is no legitimacy to claims that the ballot was too confusing. The people who got "confused" are so stupid and unobservant that we're probably, as a society, far better off that they did NOT get their votes to count. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
