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>GW just wants power and money.
I don't think that's true. GWB will never want for money, and I don't think he's a megalomaniac. He is just making choices that I think are bad for the USA in the long run, often for bad reasons (i.e. God wanted him to.)
I don't think that's true. GWB will never want for money, and I don't think he's a megalomaniac. He is just making choices that I think are bad for the USA in the long run, often for bad reasons (i.e. God wanted him to.)
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QuoteI live smack in the middle of Palm Beach County, Florida. I voted in that election. I still have the pristine sample ballot they mailed me. There is no legitimacy to claims that the ballot was too confusing. The people who got "confused" are so stupid and unobservant that we're probably, as a society, far better off that they did NOT get their votes to count.
Ah, so if you're stupid or a bit confused in the head, you should lose your right to vote?
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kallend 2,148
QuoteYou need to read the Federalist Papers! The electoral college worked exactly as designed. It is in place to make sure that the elections are a country wide decision not a choice based on large population centers. Perfect!!!!!It worked perfect
Wrong. Read the Federalist papers to find out the purpose of the Electoral College.
It's also untrue that the system dilutes the power of large states. That very common misconception is based on a naive and incomplete analysis of voting power.
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kallend 2,148
THIS is the problem with Florida's 2000 election:
"In the 2000 election, state officials purged voter rolls of the names of more than 173,000 people identified as felons or otherwise ineligible to vote, but civil rights activists as well as some Florida county elections supervisors have charged that those lists contained numerous errors, and that thousands of eligible voters were prevented from casting ballots in the election.
After the Supreme Court closed the door to recounts, President Bush edged then-Vice President Al Gore in Florida by a margin of 537 votes, enough to win the state and, with it, the White House.
"Florida's 2000 felon purge program resulted in over 50,000 legal voters being disenfranchised," said Leon County elections supervisor Ion Sancho in a written statement."
www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/28/fla.vote/
"In the 2000 election, state officials purged voter rolls of the names of more than 173,000 people identified as felons or otherwise ineligible to vote, but civil rights activists as well as some Florida county elections supervisors have charged that those lists contained numerous errors, and that thousands of eligible voters were prevented from casting ballots in the election.
After the Supreme Court closed the door to recounts, President Bush edged then-Vice President Al Gore in Florida by a margin of 537 votes, enough to win the state and, with it, the White House.
"Florida's 2000 felon purge program resulted in over 50,000 legal voters being disenfranchised," said Leon County elections supervisor Ion Sancho in a written statement."
www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/28/fla.vote/
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dbattman 0
All you have to do to vote is show up with your ID at the polling station. You can fill out your registration card right there and still vote.
I myself have been purged from the voter rolls. I showed up, I signed the form and I voted.
I have yet to see ONE person who showed up at the poll and wasn't allowed to vote. They looked high and low in Florida, and the best they could do was some woman who drove through a police roadblock a few miles from the poll and another person who was off the rolls and had to fill out a form.
I myself have been purged from the voter rolls. I showed up, I signed the form and I voted.
I have yet to see ONE person who showed up at the poll and wasn't allowed to vote. They looked high and low in Florida, and the best they could do was some woman who drove through a police roadblock a few miles from the poll and another person who was off the rolls and had to fill out a form.
Ron 10
Quote"Florida's 2000 felon purge program resulted in over 50,000 legal voters being disenfranchised," said Leon County elections supervisor Ion Sancho in a written statement."
Sore/Looserman tried to get my military vote kicked out...
So your point is what? That a system put in place accidently effected some people who could have gone around it, or that a canidate in his attempt to win purposely tried to eliminate a section of the vote so that he stood a better chance to win?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
QuoteAll you have to do to vote is show up with your ID at the polling station. You can fill out your registration card right there and still vote.
Uhhh, not in PA. Every state has their own rules. Here you have to be registered about a month before election day or you can't vote.
QuoteFrom the Florida State website:
Dates Registration Closes for 2004 Election
Presidential Preference Primary......... February 9, 2004
Primary Election .............................. August 2, 2004
General Election .............................. October 4, 2004
You must be registered for at least 29 days before you can vote in an election.
So quite obviously, your statement "another person who was off the rolls and had to fill out a form." is incorrect. As is the part about ONE person who showed up and wasn't allowed to vote.
QuoteThe policy, based on an interpretion of a Florida law, specifically removed from the voting rolls the names of Floridians convicted of felonies in other states, even if they had retained their voting rights in those states or had them automatically restored after serving their sentences.
To be eligible to vote in Florida, the ex-felons had to prove in writing they had retained those rights or they had to appeal and receive clemency from Florida officials.
Ordered by Florida's Office of Executive Clemency, whose head is an appointee of the governor, the policy applied to 2,834 Floridians last year. They were given as little as five months before Election Day to gain their voting rights in Florida, according to a document supplied to ABCNEWS.com by Florida's office of Secretary of State. It's not clear how many of them did.
Civil rights groups have charged the policy was unconstitutional since the "full faith and credit" clause of the Constitution requires that a public act or legal ruling in one state must be honored in another.
They changed the rule, just prior to the election and applied the disenfranchising practice with partiality. It is clear that not every one of those 2,834 ex-felons were removed from the rolls. Some of the state's supervisors did remove listed ex-felons from the rolls, as did Leahy, in heavily populated and Democratic Miami-Dade County. But in Miami-Dade, they also appeared to defy the Division of Elections in order to make it easier for those ex-felons to vote. They did not require the written proof ordered by the policy, but rather allowed the ex-felons to mail in an affidavit vouching their rights had been automatically restored in another state.
QuoteThat a system put in place accidently effected some people who could have gone around it, or that a canidate in his attempt to win purposely tried to eliminate a section of the vote so that he stood a better chance to win?
So, when people who show up to vote and aren't allowed because they have the same name as someone else aren't allowed, that's ok, just a mistake. But when military votes aren't counted becasue they violate the written law regarding the post mark on the mail in vote, that's bad. No double standard there.
I thought you were mister high and mighty whatever the law says should be followed.
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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