kallend 2,174 #1 June 24, 2004 www3.cjad.com/content/cp_article.asp?id=/global_feeds/canadianpress/worldnews/w062363A.htm... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #2 June 24, 2004 Substituting privacy for security DOES NOT WORK and IS DANGEROUS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #3 June 24, 2004 They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security -Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #4 June 24, 2004 big lefty said..... QuoteSenator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, top Democrat on the Senate governmental affairs committee, said the agency "may have violated" the Privacy Act, which says the government must notify the public if it intends to collect records on people. looks like even he's not sure....from his own words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wzettler 0 #5 June 24, 2004 QuoteThey who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security -Ben Franklin Amen to that!!! I think when Jesus said "love your enemy" he probably meant don't kill them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #6 June 24, 2004 Some other good Franklin quotes that are pertinent, in general, to today: Quote"He was so learned that he could name a horse in nine languages; so ignorant that he bought a cow to ride on." Quote"Would you live with ease, do what you ought, and not what you please." Quote"We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." Quote"There is no little enemy." Quote"Fear God, and your enemies will fear you." Quote"Well done is better than well said." "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #7 June 24, 2004 QuoteSubstituting privacy for security DOES NOT WORK and IS DANGEROUS. Don't bitch when terrorist Blind side you. Don't ask where the intel was. Can't have it both ways. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #8 June 24, 2004 Quotebig lefty said..... QuoteSenator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, top Democrat on the Senate governmental affairs committee, said the agency "may have violated" the Privacy Act, which says the government must notify the public if it intends to collect records on people. looks like even he's not sure....from his own words. Truly remarkable that those who bitch and moan most about big government and government intrusion in their lives are the most tolerant of government intrusion in other's lives. The Bush administration has done more to eliminate personal liberties than any other since WWII, and the self-proclaimed conservatives are in denial.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #9 June 24, 2004 QuoteThe Bush administration has done more to eliminate personal liberties than any other since WWII, and the self-proclaimed conservatives are in denial. Somebody slept through the "great society."witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #10 June 24, 2004 QuoteTruly remarkable that those who bitch and moan most mr. kettle.........mr. pot......etc. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #12 June 25, 2004 QuoteThe Bush administration has done more to eliminate personal liberties than any other since WWII, and we are at war. In case my friend from the far left, one of those who bitch and moan most about Bush, WE NEED TO DEFEND OUR SHORES. I do not have anything to hide. What I have to eat on the flight and where I went and how I paid for the trip. I have no problem with the Gov't doing profiling. If a arab-american has a problem with that....tough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #13 June 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe Bush administration has done more to eliminate personal liberties than any other since WWII, and we are at war. In case my friend from the far left, one of those who bitch and moan most about Bush, WE NEED TO DEFEND OUR SHORES. I do not have anything to hide. What I have to eat on the flight and where I went and how I paid for the trip. I have no problem with the Gov't doing profiling. If a arab-american has a problem with that....tough! I must have slept through the Constitutionally required declaration by Congress. Mea Culpa. Let's hope Ashcroft doesn't mistake you for a terrorist and imprison you indefinitely without charge or access to an attorney.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #14 June 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteSubstituting privacy for security DOES NOT WORK and IS DANGEROUS. Don't bitch when terrorist Blind side you. Don't ask where the intel was. Can't have it both ways. Fine with me. Give our gov absolute power to do whatever they want. I'm sure they wont abuse that power. And when some gov official oversteps the line dont go bitching about "your" rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #15 June 25, 2004 QuoteI must have slept through the Constitutionally required declaration by Congress. no you slept through 9-11 QuoteLet's hope Ashcroft doesn't mistake you for a terrorist and imprison you indefinitely without charge or access to an attorney. well I will not lose sleep worrying about it. But then again I don't hang with muslim terrorist........ If you are worried may be you do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #16 June 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteI must have slept through the Constitutionally required declaration by Congress. no you slept through 9-11 QuoteLet's hope Ashcroft doesn't mistake you for a terrorist and imprison you indefinitely without charge or access to an attorney. well I will not lose sleep worrying about it. But then again I don't hang with muslim terrorist........ If you are worried may be you do Recognize yourself here? www.telisphere.com/~cearley/sean/camps/first.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #17 June 25, 2004 QuoteRecognize yourself here? http://www.telisphere.com/~cearley/sean/camps/first.html not at all. remember this http://www.cantcryhardenough.com/ or this http://www.fdnylodd.com/BloodofHeroes.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #18 June 25, 2004 >well I will not lose sleep worrying about it. But then again I don't hang > with muslim terrorist........ If you are worried may be you do. I hang with a terrorist! Her name is Chris. She's not Muslim, but she can't renew her driver's license due to the Patriot Act, that act that's going to protect us all from the evil terrorists. I used to think she was a pretty cool person (and pretty good skydiver too) but now I realize that some people just don't feel safe with people like her on the streets! Fear does wonders to push one's head ever deeper into the sand. That way the government is not encumbered by the protests of people who feel their rights slipping away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #20 June 25, 2004 QuoteI hang with a terrorist! Her name is Chris. She's not Muslim, but she can't renew her driver's license due to the Patriot Act, that act that's going to protect us all from the evil terrorists. More details are needed.... QuoteFear does wonders to push one's head ever deeper into the sand no it's people that refuse to do anything to stop the evil terrorists that have their head in the sand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #21 June 25, 2004 See this http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1123999;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #22 June 25, 2004 >More details are needed.... More details??? Are you soft on terrorism? You want to just let them all go plot their evil plots? >no it's people that refuse to do anything to stop the evil terrorists that >have their head in the sand. Exactly! Which is exactly why evil terrorists like John Kallend and Chris need to be stopped before they cause another 9/11. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #23 June 25, 2004 well chris is to cute to be a terrorist, however she has been seen with you as for comrad Kallend, he's not cute at all every system has it's faults, but what we are doing is better than pre9-11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #24 June 25, 2004 >every system has it's faults, but what we are doing is better than pre9-11 There are more terrorist attacks throughout the world. Al Qaeda is gaining strength again. New evil geniuses (al-Zarqawi) are springing up in the place we "liberated." And what are the positives? We're keeping Chris from getting her driver's license. You really think we're doing better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #25 June 26, 2004 Quote>every system has it's faults, but what we are doing is better than pre9-11 There are more terrorist attacks throughout the world. Al Qaeda is gaining strength again. New evil geniuses (al-Zarqawi) are springing up in the place we "liberated." And what are the positives? We're keeping Chris from getting her driver's license. You really think we're doing better? And I gave up my model rocket summer program for getting inner city kids interested in math and science. That sure helped the national interest. Didn't the State Department just admit that contrary to their first report, terrorism is UP?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
