TheAnvil 0 #1 June 24, 2004 ...how can ANYONE take this man seriously in light of his smashing attendance record at the job he is paid to do now??????? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123565,00.html Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 June 24, 2004 sorry, man, that looks like GOP bullshit in this case. Kerry is hardly the first Senator running for President and it's silly to expect any to give the incumbent President an even bigger advantage by not campaigning. They make the votes that matter and miss most of the rest. The Veep only shows when he knows it's close to 50/50. The article suggests that the Frist made sure there was nothing to vote on that day. Seems at least as slimey to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #3 June 24, 2004 he's still better than the alternative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #4 June 24, 2004 Quote he's still better than the alternative. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #5 June 24, 2004 Quotehe's still better than the alternative. Vote Libertarian...it's called choices...we have them...take advantage of them... ~R+R~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 June 24, 2004 Quotehe's still better than the alternative. You're right, Kerry is a better alternative than Nader. If Kerry was more active in Senate activities prior to his heavy running for the Presidency, then I'd acknowledge his point, but he's been absent for the most part and his complaint is weak.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #7 June 24, 2004 Libertarian isn't a viable choice in this election. Voting libertarian will only ensure another four years of Bush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 June 24, 2004 QuoteLibertarian isn't a viable choice in this election. Voting libertarian will only ensure another four years of Bush. Wow, talk about a defeatists attitude.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 June 24, 2004 I think you are confusing defeatist with realist. There is simply -no way- any 3rd party candidate is going to win this time around and if there is a split in the votes for candidates other than GWB, then GWB wins. It's that simple.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #11 June 24, 2004 Reminds me of Catch-22. ---------------------------------------------------------------- While Captain Black was imagining, Colonel Cathcart was acting, and Captain Black was flabbergasted by the speed with which, he concluded, Major Major had outsmarted him. His great dismay at the announcement of Major Major's appointment as squadron commander was tinged with an embittered resentment he made no effort to conceal. When fellow administrative officers expressed astonishment at Colonel Cathcart's choice of Major Major, Captain Black muttered that there was something funny going on; when they speculated on the political value of Major Major's resemblance to Henry Fonda, Captain Black asserted that Major Major really was Henry Fonda; and when they remarked that Major Major was somewhat odd, Captain Black announced that he was a Communist. 'They're taking over everything,' he declared rebelliously. 'Well, you fellows can stand around and let them if you want to, but I'm not going to. I'm going to do something about it. From now on I'm going to make every son of a bitch who comes to my intelligence tent sign a loyalty oath. And I'm not going to let that bastard Major Major sign one even if he wants to.' " . . . 'Oh, it doesn't bother me a bit,' he responded cheerfully to everyone who came to him with sympathy. 'We completed our task. Our purpose was to make everyone we don't like afraid and to alert people to the danger of Major Major, and we certainly succeeded at that. Since we weren't going to let him sign loyalty oaths anyway, it doesn't really matter whether we have them or not.' ----------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Heller, as apropos today as he ever was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeehaa 0 #12 June 24, 2004 QuoteThere is simply -no way- any 3rd party candidate is going to win this time around and if there is a split in the votes for candidates other than GWB, then GWB wins. It's that simple. REALLY? I am not totally tuned in to the political climate in America but I struggle to see how GWB could possibly be re-elected, the guy is clearly a moron. Is there anyone on this website that would vote for Bush?? Serious question btw I really am curious.Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. George Bernard Shaw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 June 24, 2004 Believe it or not, somewhere between 45 to 48 percent of the people that vote, will vote for GWB. He's a divider, not a uniter. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #14 June 24, 2004 Wow, I know one kiwi that has no idea about the American social atmosphere. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeehaa 0 #15 June 24, 2004 QuoteWow, I know one kiwi that has no idea about the American social atmosphere. No kidding, I said as much myself.... Anyway I still see plenty of dubbya (how could you miss him really) and it is this that made me wonder if he could possibly stay president. I know that anyone I talk to in my own country (and I've asked a whole bunch of people) would never re-elect him based on the things he has done since he became president. I have asked a large number of people that were not in my age/social/gender/religious bracket so I reckon I have a reasonable (though still way shoddy) cross-section of the population I live in. I have also talked to a handful of Americans about him (they were thrilled to be quized on it for the 500th time since they got to my country) and only one of them supported Bush (nowhere near the 48% mark anyway). sorry for boring you all half to death with that, just trying to explain where Im coming from. Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. George Bernard Shaw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 June 24, 2004 No worries. There are a few things you have to realize when you talk about re-electing Bush: (A) He's not Kerry (unfortunately, in the US, for big races, it is still a two party system) (B) The economy is coming along (the biggest indicator of re-election, the thing a president has almost no control over; go figure). (C) He's not Kerry. (D) He has done most everything Republicans expect of him (with the pathetically low voter turn out, playing for your party base is very important) (E) He's not Kerry. (F) Bush get's little coverage in foreign news that isn't patently negative (let's face it, a lot of places don't like Iraq, and very little of any foreign leader gets into most news sources if it isn't very bad). (G) He's not Kerry.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17 June 24, 2004 See for yourself . . . http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm Now, depending on who's doing the polling, it -may- be a little skewed, but look at the overall effect of all of the polls together.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 June 24, 2004 Quote (A) He's not Kerry (unfortunately, in the US, for big races, it is still a two party system) (B) The economy is coming along (the biggest indicator of re-election, the thing a president has almost no control over; go figure). (C) He's not Kerry. (D) He has done most everything Republicans expect of him (with the pathetically low voter turn out, playing for your party base is very important) (E) He's not Kerry. (F) Bush get's little coverage in foreign news that isn't patently negative (let's face it, a lot of places don't like Iraq, and very little of any foreign leader gets into most news sources if it isn't very bad). (G) He's not Kerry. So, in other words . . . even his biggest supporters have very little actually positive to say about him or his performance. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #19 June 24, 2004 When the hell did I become any Republican's biggest supporter? Is that a personal attack? Hello, Libertarian here.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeehaa 0 #20 June 24, 2004 QuoteHello, Libertarian here. Red-blooded, Meat eating, God fearing, Capitalist, Gun owning, Heterosexual, Conservative, American, and Proud. Any questions? Conservative? isn't that the opposite of liberal? I'm sorry if I have this wrong, perhaps you could enlighten me? This is not an attack on you I just don't understand.Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. George Bernard Shaw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #21 June 24, 2004 Quote...how can ANYONE take this man seriously in light of his smashing attendance record at the job he is paid to do now??????? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123565,00.html Vinny the Anvil Question: What US president has taken the most vacation days? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #22 June 24, 2004 Research his performance a bit more, young padawan... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #23 June 24, 2004 QuoteQuoteHello, Libertarian here. Red-blooded, Meat eating, God fearing, Capitalist, Gun owning, Heterosexual, Conservative, American, and Proud. Any questions? Conservative? isn't that the opposite of liberal? I'm sorry if I have this wrong, perhaps you could enlighten me? This is not an attack on you I just don't understand. Libertarian does not equal Liberal. The Libertarian Party bases its foundation squarely on the premise of "individual liberties". Meaning (in simplistic terms): "Mind your own business". The role of government is limited to national defense, foreign affairs and little else with far more empowerment to state and local governments. It's not just "limited" government (a Republican premise) but it's also a significantly smaller government. Many equate Libertarian as "conservative" and "near zero authoritarian role" for federal government. Indeed, Libertarians are far more conservative than liberals, and in some perspectives more conservative than Republicans (the conservative party in the US). Some Libertarians are viewed as "isolationist". Liberals (the Democratic party in the US) on the other hand are often equated with socialism. Government regulates everything (or as much as possible), heavy progressive taxation (wealth re-distribution) and oversight with little empowerment to the states. The US was well on the way to this through the 60s-70s until Reagan took office in 1981 (thank God). Conservatives are typically "opposite" of Liberals and one could confuse that with Libertarianism, but Conservatives still believe in a larger role in government at a federal level. BTW, your assessment of Bush is incorrect.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #24 June 24, 2004 Quotesorry, man, that looks like GOP bullshit in this case. Kerry is hardly the first Senator running for President and it's silly to expect any to give the incumbent President an even bigger advantage by not campaigning. I seem to remember the last Senator who was his party's nominee for President (Bob Dole) quit his position in the Senate to campaign full time for President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #25 June 24, 2004 Why GWB I do believe. Questions: How has that impeded him in doing his job? What did he do on these vacations? How many press conferences did he give during these vacations? How many meetings with foreign leaders did he have during these vacations? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
