miked10270 0 #1 June 24, 2004 Not necessarily mine..... But does it have merit? "The Geneva Convention is supposedly the RULES of War , ... - It must be a joke .. rules or killing people ? . rules for rape and plunder ? rules for death and starvation ? rules for laying waste the countryside ?.. - Where are their rules for beheading innocent hostages, or bombs aimed at civilians, for flying passenger planes into occupied innocent civilian structures. - DO WE PLAY BY ANYONE"S ELSE'S - RULES BUT OUR OWN FOR SURVIVAL - HELL NO !!! - AND SHED NO TEARS FOR ABU ARABS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When was the last time we fought a war with an enemy that observed any rules of war ? - Remember the mustard gas in France Remember the Baatan Death March, ... Remember the ovens in Poland, Austria and Hungry? ... Remember the Korean brain washing and beatings Remember the beating our prisoners endured at the hands of the Viet Cong??? - AND TO HELL WITH ARAB OUTRAGE ! over the humiliation of Iraqi prisoners WE SHOULD HANG THEM INSTEAD - - Where were the "outraged" Arabs when American civilians, kidnapped hostages were beheaded ?? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when necrophiliacs in Fallujah mutilated four American soldiers by stepping on their burnt skulls and hung their burnt bodies from a bridge? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when "Palestinians" mutilated and dragged the bodies of two IDF soldiers in Ramallah? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when 19 Muslims blew up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11/01 and killed thousands of innocent civilians ? - Where are these "outraged" Arabs when Muslims continue the slaughter of Sudanese Christians? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Muslims blew up Pan Am Flight 103? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Muslims bombed the Marine barracks in Lebanon killing 241 Americans in 1983? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Muslims bombed the USS COLE ? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Muslims bombed the American embassies in Africa killing 231 people? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Abu Mazen engineered the "Black September" Terror Attack during the Munich Olympics, which killed 11 Israeli athletes and a U.S. citizen ? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Abu Abase threw the wheel-chair bound Leon Klinghoffer overboard from the Achille Lauro? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when "Palestinian" rioters torched the Jewish-only Joseph's Tomb ? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when the Taliban blew up the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when simultaneous blasts rocked two of downtown Istanbul's synagogues killing at least 15 people and wounding at least 140 - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when "Palestinians" handed out candies celebrating the deaths of 3000 Americans on 9-11-01? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when Jemaah Islamiyah suicide bombers killed 12 people and injured 150 at the J.W. Marriott in Jakarta, Indonesia? - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when bomb attacks in Morocco killed at least 28 people and injure more than 100? - - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when suicide bombers killed 12 people at an Israeli-owned beach hotel in Kenya and two missiles narrowly miss an airliner carrying Israelis? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when nearly 200 people, including seven Americans, were killed in bombings in a nightclub district of the Indonesian island of Bali? NOWHERE - Where were these "outraged" Arabs when 300,000 Iraqi's bodies, their own people, were found in mass graves? Where was their indignation ? ......................NOWHERE. - It is nowhere because Arab outrage when someone non-Arab is a victim, is non-existent, Why ? ...Because the Arab culture knows only how to be proud and arrogant, and as a result ignorant and backward. The culture is a cohesive political glob of people united simply by ethnic birth, political identity, religious idolatry and not at all by any sense of morality. - It's time for the rest of the world, regardless of any political or religious beliefs or affiliation, who DO know the difference between right and wrong, to understand that these "outraged" idiots are too pathetic ad morally bankrupt to warrant any sympathy from us. - When these "outraged" Arabs can find their manhood and the morality to be responsible for putting an end to the Arab perpetrators and to the disgusting crimes and terrorism they have committed against their own people, all others and human society and learn to live in harmony and peace with the rest of the world .... - Then, maybe I'll shed a tear, but I doubt it!" Mike. The enemy of your enemy is not neccessarily yor friend. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 June 24, 2004 Does GWB know you recorded his conversation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #3 June 24, 2004 QuoteDoes GWB know you recorded his conversation? Awww... C'mon. Accurate names!? 4 and 5 syllable words!? Accurate spelling!? If you accused me of eavesdropping on his speechwriters then I wouldn't feel so insulted! Mike. The enemy of your enemy is STILL not necessarily your friend. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #4 June 24, 2004 QuoteIf you accused me of eavesdropping on his speechwriters then I wouldn't feel so insulted! Aren't they required to only write what Bush can read and pronounce? I'm confused as to why you'd feel any less insulted, really. (ok, enough useless babble for one thread, now you can all comment on how it makes it right for us to commit war crimes because others have done it. Because isn't that what this country is all about, anyhow... revenge? An eye for an eye, right? ... ok, i'm done). angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 June 24, 2004 > Does it have merit? Not much. History belongs to the victors - one reason why most "war crimes" are committed by losers of wars. Look at the list provided. We're saints! Soldiers in war are put under incredible stress with constant potential for death and that shows up in their actions. For the current tense, the article lacks much merit because it is flat out wrong. Plenty of Arabs have protested plenty of these actions. Just as plenty of Europeans protested the rise of Nazi Germany in the 30s, but did very little to stop it from happening. The article then disintigrates into the definition of racism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #6 June 24, 2004 Nice analysis. I knew they made us do book reports in school for a reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #7 June 24, 2004 More: Where were the outraged Arabs when the US spilled blood providing (in part) for the defense of Muslims in the Balkans? Where were the outraged Arabs when the US spilled blood trying to stop the starvation and genocide of Muslims in Somalia? Where were the outraged Arabs when the US-led coalition liberated (Muslim) Kuwait? Where were the outraged Arabs when the US defended Saudi Arabia, stopping Saddam from marching right through Kuwait all the way thru the peninsula to the Kaaba stone? Where were the outraged Arabs when the US provided aid, weapons, and training to the Muslims in Afghanistan in their successful defense of their land from the Soviet Union? Sure, we did all of those things with significant US interests in mind too. Wasn't altruistic at all. But if the US hates Islam so much, and according to the brainwashing of the Arab people by their own gov't controlled media we want to destroy it, how is it that the US just happens to end up on the side of the Muslims in these recent conflicts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #8 June 24, 2004 How about the Bosnian/Serb conflict? We were defending the Muslims there too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #9 June 24, 2004 That's what I meant by "The Balkans" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #10 June 24, 2004 Sorry....I missed that....A.D.D. kicking in again.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 June 24, 2004 QuoteDO WE PLAY BY ANYONE"S ELSE'S - RULES BUT OUR OWN FOR SURVIVAL - HELL NO !!! Our habit was of playing by our rules. Now we are playing by theirs. Somewhere, someone is fiddling... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #12 June 24, 2004 We (used to) comply with th Geneva Conventions for the benefit of OUR boys.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #13 June 24, 2004 True enough kallend. And there's certainly a tactical advantage to observing Geneva too. It's not oversimplistic to say that (in WWII) when starting to lose a battle, the Germans fought harder on the eastern front than on the western in large part due to their knowledge of how they'd be treated as prisoners by Russia versus by the US/UK and western allies. The mistreatment of prisoners in Iraq, in ways much more significant to their culture than to ours, feeds the resistence, already brainwashed against us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alienangel 0 #14 June 24, 2004 This is the biggest load of ignorant, racist, obtuse shit I have read for a very long time. I wonder if the world is a more, or less, scary place when viewed in black and white? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #15 June 25, 2004 QuoteThis is the biggest load of ignorant, racist, obtuse shit I have read for a very long time. I wonder if the world is a more, or less, scary place when viewed in black and white? Every single statement?Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #16 June 25, 2004 Interesting post and responses thus far. A couple notes from TheAnvil: - left wingers do not like you pointing out the lack of outrage over 9/11 from the folks protesting Abu Ghraib with such fervor; it shows one of many flaws in the fantasy worlds they build for themselves - Calling the Arab people proud and arrogant is rather prejudiced; I don't condone that - but you said the opinions in your post were 'not necessarily mine'Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #17 June 25, 2004 Don't you know that Allah has already told them that anyone who isn't muslim isn't worth shit? Allah couldn't be wrong, right? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 June 25, 2004 Quote We (used to) comply with th Geneva Conventions for the benefit of OUR boys. Doesn't seem to benefit them much anymore does it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
