billvon 3,131 #1 June 23, 2004 I think there's a lesson here. Jack Ryan is a candidate for the Senate in Illinois, and his ex-wife went after him a while back during a contested divorce. The records of this battle were made public during a custody battle for their son. Apparently he took her to some BDSM and sex clubs, venues that were described pretty graphically in court documents. (Jeri Ryan, BTW, played Seven of Nine in the Voyager Star Trek series.) The lesson here isn't to do or not do things with your wife; I think people should do whatever they want to do in that arena. But if you do take your wife to a sex club even if she really doesn't want to go, and you're running for US senate on the conservative ticket, and you're in the midst of a contested divorce/custody case - you should probably give her what she's asking for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 June 23, 2004 Wow....she's hot, kinky AND single. Sweet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #3 June 23, 2004 QuoteWow....she's hot, kinky AND single. Sweet. dude, you so read my mind... but she's screws Republicans, I guess there's one strike against her. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #4 June 23, 2004 This might be the one time I'd advise against giving some girl a "Tony Danza...." Nah, give her a Tony Danza. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 June 23, 2004 Quotebut she's screws Republicans I'm a big advocate of screing republicans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 June 23, 2004 QuoteQuotebut she's screws Republicans I'm a big advocate of screing republicans Actually I think she blows Republicans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 June 23, 2004 Actually, I think it's that republicans blow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #8 June 23, 2004 gonna be a lot of IQ in this thread... btw i have a 110 MB zipped file with lots and lots of cool pix of her... no BDSM though here's one to those who wonder who she is... O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #9 June 23, 2004 The documents are available here, if anybody is interested. Hooray for The Smoking Gun. Another reason why I love living in Illinois. The politics are never boring. I personally don't care if Jack Ryan took his wife to sex clubs, or if it led to his divorce. What I do care about is that before the records were unsealed he insisted that there was nothing embarrassing in them and that he wanted them to remain sealed only to protect his son. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #10 June 23, 2004 QuoteThe documents are available here, if anybody is interested. Hooray for The Smoking Gun. Another reason why I love living in Illinois. The politics are never boring. I personally don't care if Jack Ryan took his wife to sex clubs, or if it led to his divorce. What I do care about is that before the records were unsealed he insisted that there was nothing embarrassing in them and that he wanted them to remain sealed only to protect his son. I see absolutely nothin embarassing in taking your extremely hot wife to a sex club... Oh wait, I forgot, we are talking about a Republican, sex is bad mmkay. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #11 June 23, 2004 Idealy none of that should affect his political race one iota. Reality is a different thing. On another note, she's hot, but damn if it doesn't just burst a bubble to find out she's not kinky......---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #12 June 23, 2004 QuoteIdealy none of that should affect his political race one iota. It's not a question of there being anything wrong with all that... But he's a douche for pulling his wife into something she was completely uncomfortable with. Could you imagine that someone brought you to some sex bar and in the middle of everyone tried to talk you into letting some bubba shove it in while everyone watched? One minute you're trying to have fun in NY and all of a sudden you realize it's all a ploy to get you into this place... That big deal is that his need to get into this kinky shit overpowered his need to have a healthy relationship with his wife. So, that's what makes him freaky. If I asked my girlfriend once or twice to get some kind of third party involved, fine... but if I spring a midget out of a circus cannon...sheit..."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #13 June 23, 2004 > Idealy none of that should affect his political race one iota. Yep; wouldn't affect my opinion of him one way or another. OTOH it _would_ suggest that if he were elected, a Clintonesque scandal might evolve as democrats looked for something to attack him on. "But he LIED about going to the sex club! He LIED!" It would get tiresome to listen to. >On another note, she's hot, but damn if it doesn't just burst a bubble >to find out she's not kinky..... There are many ways to be kinky, grasshopper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 June 23, 2004 QuoteThere are many ways to be kinky, grasshopper. *hands over my ears, running away, screaming "LA_LA_LA_LA_LA_LA_LA!"* ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #15 June 23, 2004 >Could you imagine that someone brought you to some sex bar and in the >middle of everyone tried to talk you into letting some bubba shove it in >while everyone watched? Well, you could say no. If he continued to pressure you, then that might be a problem. I remember years back a guy brought his wife to the DZ and tried to talk her into jumping. She did, but then he kept the pressure on and she went all the way through the program even though she didn't want to. After a few scary jumps (and a cypres firing) she quit. Nothing wrong with asking someone to do something, as long as "I don't want to" is an acceptable answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #16 June 23, 2004 QuoteThe documents are available here, if anybody is interested. Hooray for The Smoking Gun. Another reason why I love living in Illinois. The politics are never boring. I personally don't care if Jack Ryan took his wife to sex clubs, or if it led to his divorce. What I do care about is that before the records were unsealed he insisted that there was nothing embarrassing in them and that he wanted them to remain sealed only to protect his son. Were his lips moving when he claimed nothing embarrassing in the documents?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #17 June 24, 2004 QuoteI remember years back a guy brought his wife to the DZ and tried to talk her into jumping... Ya know, I've had to intervene on more than one occasion. One time, the guy pressured his girlfriend so much that she went through the training and everything. We got on the plane and she said, "I'm not going." I said, "Really?" "Yup," its his money and what he doesn't know yet is that I'm breaking up with him tonight. I cracked up, the pilot cracked up and we flew around for awhile on his dime. Too bad I couldn't jump on his dime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 June 24, 2004 Quote "Yup," its his money and what he doesn't know yet is that I'm breaking up with him tonight. I cracked up, the pilot cracked up and we flew around for awhile on his dime. Too bad I couldn't jump on his dime. How many guys have been dumped for being a dick about that, or skiing the black diamonds, or [insert another sport tainted by testerone]? Showing off as an alpha male only works up until the point where she decides you're an alpha asshole. I remember a tandem couple on one of my early student jumps where the girl looked quite nervous, but when I got down to the ground he was the one that got dangerously close to puking his lunch and was pretty ill looking. The other risk of pushing the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #19 June 24, 2004 Quote Idealy none of that should affect his political race one iota. Oh, no need to worry about that. Ryan's campaign is already sunk. Jack Ryan previously hired a professional goon to follow his opponent Obama around and personally harrass him: shoving a camera in his face, following him into restrooms, and heckling him as he talked to constituents. I don't know if Obama has any particular qualities worth voting for... but he at least seems to have the presence of mind not to do incredibly stupid things. On that basis alone I think Ryan doesn't stand a chance. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #20 June 24, 2004 QuoteWow....she's hot, kinky AND single. Sweet. Actually she may be hot but she is not Kinky. Read the papers and she was against the kinky stuff in the clubs. She even became "physically ill" and "Began to cry". Too bad since she is HOT. It will be hard to imagine her as a kinky bitch now that she is in court papers as stating not to be so.... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #21 June 24, 2004 you can be open to a bit of kink, yet be overwhelmed or disgusted by the idea of a club. For many people, things like that remain in the privacy of their own home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 June 24, 2004 It only seems kinky the first time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #23 June 24, 2004 >you can be open to a bit of kink, yet be overwhelmed or >disgusted by the idea of a club. What's that old saying? Using a feather is kinky, but using the whole chicken is perverted - or something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #24 June 24, 2004 yeah... kinda like that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #25 June 24, 2004 in it's proper form: QuoteQ: What's the difference between erotic and kinky? A: erotic is using a feather, kinky is using the whole chicken (yeah, like I know "proper" from a hole in the ground) witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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