When are you black, white, etc.

[sundevil777 102]

How do you know?

Most would at first think it is visually obvious. But what about obviously mixed race people. At what point should they be "identified"? Should people be able to just self-proclaim without evidence?

Native Americans in Alaska have a quite small requirement for Native heritage to be cosidered Native, something like 1/16, but that is just my rough memory.

You can consider me a troll, but this question is important if you advocate race based preferences.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[nanook 1]

I think you have to be at lest 1/100 "cherokee" before you are allowed to wear a "tribal band" around your arm.I seen mixed race children go through the usual identity problems of being part of two races. They usually opt for a third "mutt" group because it's easier emotionally in the end. Most of my uncles and aunts have married white and my cousins have mostly gone that route. And the rate I am going, I probably be the same. I think boys have the most problems though.

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[tcnelson 1]

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You can consider me a troll, but this question is important if you advocate race based preferences.

yeah, you're a troll brother...and mlk jr. was
a war monger!

race is a learned thing; it always has been. i just look for asshole/not an asshole and it has worked for me so far.

"Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch
NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329

[Michele 1]

When I was a child, about 7ish or so, my father spread out a whole bunch of National Geographic magazines to different pages on the den floor. The photos were of all races, cultures, nationalities. Different countries, different economic levels, different facets of existence.

He asked me to look at them, and tell me what was different. I went through the differences: some were white, some were black, some were East Indian, Middle Eastern, whatever. Some were poor, some were rich. Some were healthy, some were not. Some were of war, some of peace. I kept looking for what my father wanted as an answer.

Finally, I said I didn't know. And he said "right. Nothing is different. They are all people."

That's what I see when I see someone - people. Not skin color, not ethicity, not gender, not economic status. People.

over the years, I learned what Dad was teaching that day. There are differences, but those differences are superficial. They are surface. There are differences, but there are more samenesses then there are differences.

And that's what I see. The samenesses, rather than differences.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[mr2mk1g 10]

Our soles are all the same.
Our souls are all the same.

[Skyrad 0]

I'm mixed race and don't really give a shit what people think about what colour I am. Most people describe me as white but if asked I'd say I was coffee coloured. But I love jumping with little green men in silver jumpsuits! WOW.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Erroll 80]

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this question is ONLY important if you advocate race based preferences.

I don't.

[PhillyKev 0]

I'm Irish & German, so I guess my race is freckled.

[TheAnvil 0]

I proclaim that I am short. And I have been discriminated against all of my life by the NBA. They have provided me absolutely NO role models to inspire me, which has resulted in my acute case of Post-Traumatic-Didn't-Make-The-Lakers disorder.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[PhillyKev 0]

Some of the dancers on the sideline aren't that tall. Maybe you could be one of them. Or a mascot

[rehmwa 2]

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Some of the dancers on the sideline aren't that tall. Maybe you could be one of them. Or a mascot

ROFL

It's this kind of hate-based "short bashing" that holds back the maturity of the planet. Do you care when Anvil gets pulled over for "driving while short"? I didn't think so. But, then again, how would the cops know other than seeing his fingers over the top of the steering wheel? That could be anybody.

I'm going for a couple aspirin.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[ltdiver 3]

You forgot about Nate Archibald!!

Several years ago there was a player by the name of Nate Archibald at the University of Texas at El Paso.  When he finished college, most of the professional teams ignored Nate because he was too short.  In fact, his nickname was "Tiny."  The Cincinnati Royals decided to take a chance on Nate and signed him to play on their team.  Well, Nate made it big in the NBA because he was lightning fast, had good hands, and he was a great shooter.  He played in the NBA for fourteen seasons and became known as the player who proved that a "little man" could play in the NBA.  Just listen to some of the honors he won: 

He was named to the All-NBA team five times
He was named to the NBA All-Star team six times 
He was elected to the NBA Hall of Fame on May 13, 1991


LTDIVER

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[TheAnvil 0]

Bah. He had skill! I have no skill. I'm about as coordinated with a basketball in my hand as I am juggling lopsided dumbbells. And he's one out of how many? He was but a token. They are conspiring to keep short blond men with no skill out of the NBA. It's not fair. I've been suffering for years!

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[ltdiver 3]

Hey! That was not your original argument! What are you, a lawyer?

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[TheAnvil 0]

That happens more often than you'd think. Short profiling is far more prevalent than racial profiling. It just goes unreported. One more way of keeping the short man down.

The other day I took my Yellow Pages inside because I needed a couple of #'s. I made a quick jaunt to the liquor store for a bottle of Patron and got harrassed on the way back. Just because I left my booster seat - the yellow pages - inside.

Such actions by law enforcement do nothing but aggravate my Post-Traumatic-Didn't-Make-The-Lakers disorder.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[nanook 1]

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over the years, I learned what Dad was teaching that day. There are differences, but those differences are superficial. They are surface. There are differences, but there are more samenesses then there are differences.

I like what you got to say here. Here's a problem with the superficial differences. The surface really has but the color of the skin and general dress pointed out. There's still internal differences that comes from differences. Priorities and ways of thinking come from ethnicity also, and is sometimes so ingrained that it can never leave. You can ignore color and physical differences all you want but comfort in similarity is very strong and takes precedence. Kids of two races not only have two colors to choose from, but also two cultural philophies to choose from as well.

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[PhillyKev 0]

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Priorities and ways of thinking come from ethnicity also

In as far as they come from culture, not from race.

[AggieDave 6]

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In as far as they come from culture, not from race

Exactly.

The "stereotype" race comments come from the culture of the family, friends, neighborhood, etc of the person and where they were raised. Not color.


I've met black rednecks. White hip-hop ganstas, well, you get the idea, the list could go on. Its about who you are, where you're from, etc not what color you are.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Actually, I am pretty sure you can register with a recognized native american indian nation if you are at least 1/64th blood. I am 1/8th Cherokee on my mother's side (my great grandmother was a full-blooded squaw), but have never considered doing so even though the economic and education benefits are phenomenal for people who do. I, selfishly, think that those benefits should be retained for natives of pure blood. I find it incredibly cheesy that very-diluted/diversified individuals beg for money from such sources. I find it ridiculous that people five generations removed from any semblance of native american culture think they have any claim. The government does not owe me a penny, in my opinion, just because my great grandmother was a squaw.

People need to make their own way in life.

[crwmike 0]

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Some of the dancers on the sideline aren't that tall. Maybe you could be one of them. Or a mascot

ROFL

It's this kind of hate-based "short bashing" that holds back the maturity of the planet. Do you care when Anvil gets pulled over for "driving while short"? I didn't think so. But, then again, how would the cops know other than seeing his fingers over the top of the steering wheel? That could be anybody.

I'm going for a couple aspirin.

No, but he's got enough problems appealing that Public Ugly conviction.

Michael

[DrunkMonkey 0]

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...White hip-hop ganstas...

Those dorks always make me laugh... "DJ Jazzy Trevor..." What a buncha dumbfucks. Rich kids who think theyre ghetto thugs (as if that was a noble calling)...They ought to do those dumbasses what Dave Chappelle did to the little white kid who thought he was 50 Cent's partner--leave him in the middle of the ghetto with the advice to "Sell rocks."

[rehmwa 2]

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I, selfishly, think that those benefits should be retained for natives of pure blood.

People need to make their own way in life.

I can't rationalize these two parts. Sorry to pick it apart, that's a cheap trick.

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DrunkMonkey - Rich kids who think theyre ghetto thugs

And there's another stereotype. How do you know they are rich?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[TheAnvil 0]

Yeah, the bastards got me for that too. The cop had the audacity to state that he HOPED I had taken my booster seat - the Yellow Pages - inside to find a plastic surgeon.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[nanook 1]

dammit, screwed the pooch again. I was referring to culture all along. Have to check my P's and Q's better.

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[miked10270 0]

Let's tell the "whole" story...

Anvil was driving through Georgia in a Honda - an IMPORTED vehicle that is NOT a pickup!

Thus the original citation was for :

1315 - Use of a perverse (or perverts) device on a public road.

1317 - Inadequate load area (not capable of holding 2 dead deer)

1366 - No rifle rack fitted at rear windscreen.

1367 - No rifles

1367(a) - No telescopic sights.

The driving while excessively short and DWU charges were just makeweights.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.