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[Ron 10]

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Right! Why can't he be a spend and spend republican? After all, we can just print more money, right?

you seem to be avoiding my responce in another thread...Typical bill...Don't want to answer so you just ignore it.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[PhillyKev 0]

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Oh, tax and spend...typical Democrat

Funny, I was always under the impression that's how you funded gov't initiatives. Well, that or just run up a huge debt and let someone else worry about taxing to pay it off PLUS the interest.

Personally, I typically don't buy things on credit. It's cheaper that way.

[billvon 3,116]

>you seem to be avoiding my responce in another thread

??? You might want to check that thread instead of this one for an answer in that thread. We do separate these things for a reason.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Was that before or after he stated that he was in favor of renewing the AWB?

That pledge was like Gary Shetfield saying he was ready to piss in a cup to prove he wasn't a roid'd up ballplayer. He knew the union would never permit the test.

Likewise, Bush never expects to see the bill come to his office. He'd be in quite the pickle if it somehow did get there. Signing that in the next few months would cost him reelection.

[PhillyKev 0]

Ahhh, I see. So when Kerry and Bush say the exact same thing, Kerry is anti-gun and Bush is just lying. Got it.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Show me where Bush has done something right, and I'll consider revising my opinion.

After al the trampling on the Second Amendment that the Clinton administration did, Bush's administration came out directly and recognized that the 2nd clearly guarantees an individual right, not this bullshit "collective" right that Clinton and other liberals claim (and which constitutional scholars deride).

That's one.

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Was that before or after he stated that he was in favor of renewing the AWB?

Don't know; doesn't really matter. I saw plenty of people saying that he probably said that just to ride the fence when he knew it would not be given a chance to get renewed. I don't like that kind of political "game," -- I prefer people to do and say what they mean and let the chips fall where they may -- but we all knew what the reality was.

But Kerry is a sincere and dire threat to Second Amendment freedoms, all the worse because he, like other anti-gun liberals, is trying to camouflage himself in "duck hunter garb" to fool the fence-sitting gun owners into thinking he's a friend of gun rights. He is not. He didn't earn an "F" rating from the NRA for nothing. It's because he's voted over 50 times in his tenure for anti-gun legislation.

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[kelpdiver 2]

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Ahhh, I see. So when Kerry and Bush say the exact same thing, Kerry is anti-gun and Bush is just lying. Got it.

Pretty much, yeah. Why Bush is lying on this I have no idea.

There's little doubt where Kerry stands.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Ahhh, I see. So when Kerry and Bush say the exact same thing, Kerry is anti-gun and Bush is just lying. Got it.

You don't think that observable, verifiable voting histories have any bearing on what should be believed??

Kerry is on record as having voted for everything anti-gun that ever came his way.

George W. Bush legalized shall-issue concealed carry in Texas.

Go ahead and keep telling us that this is all really vague and ambiguous.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[kallend 2,148]

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But Kerry is a sincere and dire threat to Second Amendment freedoms, all the worse because he, like other anti-gun liberals, is trying to camouflage himself in "duck hunter garb" to fool the fence-sitting gun owners into thinking he's a friend of gun rights. He is not. He didn't earn an "F" rating from the NRA for nothing. It's because he's voted over 50 times in his tenure for anti-gun legislation.

Well, being an enemy of 10% of the Bill of Rights is better than trying to get around 80% of them like Bush. At least he hasn't tried to billet troops in anyone's house yet.

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[PhillyKev 0]

No, I agree. And gun rights are important to me. But it's not the only issue I can worry about. Whenever I do end up voting for someone who is anti-gun, I make sure to send them a letter letting them know that issue is important to me and could cost them my vote next time.

[Jimbo 0]

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Whenever I do end up voting for someone who is anti-gun, I make sure to send them a letter letting them know that issue is important to me and could cost them my vote next time.

From the actions speak louder than words camp, I don't think that's very effective.

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[kallend 2,148]

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Whenever I do end up voting for someone who is anti-gun, I make sure to send them a letter letting them know that issue is important to me and could cost them my vote next time.

From the actions speak louder than words camp, I don't think that's very effective.

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Yes, Kev, you should threaten to shoot next time.

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[PhillyKev 0]

You'd be suprised. About a month after 9/11 I sent a letter to my representatives about the grounding of skydiving operations. I figured, hey, it can't hurt. The following week when they allowed skydiving again, Mary in Square 3 walked up to me and said, "I understand we owe you some thanks." I never did get the details from her on how exactly she knew I sent those letters, but clearly they weren't ignnored.