Gravitymaster 0 #101 June 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt's all fun and games till you start dissing a Harley. Harley's are extremely over-priced and over-hyped. All you're paying for is the name. Japan makes much better cruisers. Q: Do you know the difference between a harley and a hoover? A: The position of the dirtbag. They only seem overpriced to those who can't afford them. I tend to look not at the asking price, but at the cost to own ie. initial price minus resale value. In that light the metrics can't hold a candle to a Harley. Plus chicks dig guys on Harleys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #102 June 22, 2004 They're over-priced...period. Forget price. Compare similiar priced Japanese cruisers to Harley's and you'll see Harley can't compare. You're simply paying for a name. Harley's are crap. These are real cruisers. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #103 June 22, 2004 QuoteThey're over-priced...period. Forget price. Compare similiar priced Japanese cruisers to Harley's and you'll see Harley can't compare. You're simply paying for a name. Harley's are crap. These are real cruisers. Now check the used market for them. Talk about depreciation. I've got a 2002 Fat Boy I might sell you for close to what I paid for it, but only if you ask politely. Many think a Mercedes is over priced except those who understand overall value. Then it makes perfect sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #104 June 22, 2004 Here's a cruiser for you. I absolutely love this bike. Scroll down for some sweet pics. I like the side view of the one in black. What a beautiful bike. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #105 June 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnd people keep DEFENDING him and are happy he got away with it. Mostly chicks who think he has nice hair. Actually, when a poll was taken and women were asked if they would have sex with Clinton, 80% said "never again". Power is an aphrodesiac. The boss of my firm is as ugly as they come, talking short (5'02'), bald (mr.clean) aka mini me, arrogant and comes across as rude. But he's always with a gorgeous girl, (although they never wear heals), its the money and power that attracts both men and women. I bet you over half of that 80% would sleep with BC if he was still Pres and they met him at a dinner party or other such event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #106 June 22, 2004 QuoteHere's a cruiser for you. I absolutely love this bike. Scroll down for some sweet pics. I like the side view of the one in black. What a beautiful bike. I guess beauty truely is in the eye of the beholder. To me, those aren't motorcycles. This is a motorcycle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #107 June 22, 2004 QuoteTo me, those aren't motorcycles. Well it's a good thing no one listens to you. Someone must think Honda makes good cruisers. The Valkyrie Rune was named cruiser of the decade. And what a sweet cruiser she is. Harley can't touch it. Oh well. Time for me to count sheep. Peace. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #108 June 22, 2004 Don't bother. The concept of style is lost on some people. Especially those that know everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #109 June 22, 2004 QuoteI bet you over half of that 80% would sleep with BC if he was still Pres and they met him at a dinner party or other such event. What's difference between Clinton and the Titanic? We know how many people went down on the Titanic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #110 June 22, 2004 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And if you want to continue the morals argument, I think it says volumes about the priorities in this country when a convicted criminal is elected to the White House. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think it says volumes about us when we have a guy lie under oath and commit perjury and we do nothing to him. I suppose it is settled that each in his own way is a "bad person"... at least lying about blow jobs doesn't put anyone's life in danger.... driving drunk sure as hell does!! I suppose it'd be different if he'd hit someone while driving drunk, huh?? I don't see it any differently, it is just as wrong to drive a vehicle that can be deadly in a state in which your control is limited as it is to actually hit someone with your vehicle while drunk. Committing perjury by lying about getting a blow job is wrong. Driving drunk is, imo, even more wrong. Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #111 June 22, 2004 QuoteThe concept of style is lost on some people. So is logic and common sense. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #112 June 22, 2004 >Yep, if I lied under oath, they would throw me in jail. >But since it was Clinton, we did nothing. >Funny standards huh? Not at all! Rumsfeld lied to congress under oath, and we didn't throw him in jail either. >The most powerful man in the world can do what he wants with an >intern...And he can lie about it and get away scott free. And the second most powerful man in the world can lie about torturing civilians and get away with it. Which is worse, lying about an affair or lying about how you approved violations to the Geneva Convention, a convention used to protect the lives of american soldiers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #113 June 23, 2004 Quote>Yep, if I lied under oath, they would throw me in jail. >But since it was Clinton, we did nothing. >Funny standards huh? Not at all! Rumsfeld lied to congress under oath, and we didn't throw him in jail either. >The most powerful man in the world can do what he wants with an >intern...And he can lie about it and get away scott free. And the second most powerful man in the world can lie about torturing civilians and get away with it. Which is worse, lying about an affair or lying about how you approved violations to the Geneva Convention, a convention used to protect the lives of american soldiers? No one seems to mention that Clinton was really entrapped. Linda Tripp tipped off Kenneth Starr, who again tipped off Paula Jones’ lawyers. Starr wanted them to ask Clinton the Monica question during the disposition because he knew this would force him to lie. Most people would have. Starr was supposed to investigate Whitewater and he could not find anything, so he used Tripp’s information – as he was out to get Clinton, one way or the other. I would say that there are mitigating circumstances here. Morally Clinton was /is not the nicest character, but then again – what about many other powerful men? JFK is called a great President and he was far worse when it comes to his sex live – including very young women and sharing a lover with a mafia boss. And if you would dig into the background of most politicians in Washington with the same vigour Starr did with Clinton, you would find a lot of dirt… I still believe it is far worse if a politician lies or misleads about matters of war or policies then about a blowjob. No matter if he lied under oath or not…--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #114 June 23, 2004 Uh huh. Did we forget about all the people Clinton pardoned? Hmmmm... ALLEN, Verla Jean Everton, Arkansas False statements to agency of United States ALTIERE, Nicholas M. Las Vegas, Nevada Importation of cocaine ALTSCHUL, Bernice Ruth Sherman Village, California Conspiracy to commit money laundering ANDERSON, Joe, Jr. Grove Hill, Alabama Income tax evasion ANDERSON, William Sterling Spartanburg, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured financial institution, false statements to a federally insured financial institution, wire fraud AZIZKHANI, Mansour T. Huntsville, Alabama Conspiracy and making false statements in bank loan applications BABIN, Cleveland Victor, Jr. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Conspiracy to commit offense against the United States by utilizing the U.S. mail in furtherance of a scheme to defraud BAGLEY, Chris Harmon Harrah, Oklahoma Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine BANE, Scott Lynn Mahomet, Illinois Unlawful distribution of marijuana BARBER, Thomas Cleveland Hampton, Florida Issuing worthless checks BARGON, Peggy Ann Monticello, Illinois Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act BHATKA, Tansukhlal Income tax evasion BLAMPIED, David Roscoe Ketchum, Idaho Conspiracy to distribute cocaine BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. Washington, D.C. Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery BOREL, Arthur David Little Rock, Arkansas Odometer rollback BOREL, Douglas Charles Conway, Arkansas Odometer rollback BRABHAM, George Thomas Austin, Texas Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank BRASWELL, Almon Glenn Doravilla, Georgia Conspiracy to defraud government with respect to claims; perjury BROWDER, Leonard Aiken, South Carolina Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud BROWN, David Steven New York, New York Securities fraud and mail fraud BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson Hanna, Oklahoma Possession of marijuana BUSTAMANTE, John H. Cleveland, Ohio Wire fraud CAMPBELL, Mary Louise Ruleville, Mississippi Aiding and abetting the unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps CANDELARIA, Eloida False information in registering to vote CAPILI, Dennis Sobrevinas Glendale, California Filing false statements in alien registration CHAMBERS, Donna Denise Memphis, Tennessee Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine, possession with intent to distribute cocaine, use of a telephone to facilitate cocaine conspiracy CHAPMAN, Douglas Eugene Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud CHAPMAN, Ronald Keith Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud CHAVEZ, Francisco Larios Santa Ana, California Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens CISNEROS, Henry G. CLINTON, Roger COHN, Stuart Harris New Haven, Connecticut 1. Illegal sale of gold options 2. Illegal sale of silver options COOPER, David Marc Wapakoneta, Ohio Conspiracy to defraud the government COX, Ernest Harley, Jr. Pine Bluff, Arkansas Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured savings and loan, misapplication of bank funds, false statements CROSS, John F., Jr. Little Rock, Arkansas Embezzlement by a bank employee CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee Amarillo, Texas Possession with intent to distribute marijuana DE LABIO, Richard Anthony Baltimore, Maryland Mail fraud, aiding and abetting DEUTCH, John Described in January 19, 2001 information DOUGLAS, Richard False statements DOWNE, Edward Reynolds Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and tax evasion; securities fraud DUDLEY, Marvin Dean Omaha, Nebraska False statements DUNCAN, Larry Lee Branson, Missouri Altering an automobile odometer FAIN, Robert Clinton Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio Miami, Florida Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana FERROUILLET, Alvarez Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering, false statements FUGAZY, William Denis Harrison, New York Perjury in a bankruptcy proceeding GEORGE, Lloyd Reid Mail fraud GOLDSTEIN, Louis Las Vegas, Nevada Possession of goods stolen from interstate shipment GORDON, Rubye Lee Tampa, Florida Forgery of U.S. Treasury checks GREEN, Pincus Switzerland HAMNER, Robert Ivey Searcy, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute HANDLEY, Samuel Price Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property HANDLEY, Woodie Randolph Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property HARMON, Jay Houston Jonesboro, Arkansas 1. Conspiracy to import marijuana, conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, importation of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute 2. Conspiracy to import cocaine HEMMINGSON, John Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering HERDLINGER, David S. St. Simons Island, Georgia Mail fraud HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae Ogden, Utah Distribution of methamphetamine JAMES, Donald Ray Fairfield Bay, Arkansas Mail fraud, wire fraud, and false statement to a bank to influence credit approval JOBE, Stanley Pruet El Paso, Texas Conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and bank fraud JOHNSON, Ruben H. Austin, Texas Theft and misapplication of bank funds by a bank officer or director JONES, Linda Conspiracy to commit bank fraud and other offenses against the United States LAKE, James Howard Illegal corporate campaign contributions, wire fraud LEWIS, June Louise Lowellville, Ohio Embezzlement by a bank employee LEWIS, Salim Bonnor Short Hills, New Jersey Securities fraud, record keeping violations, margin violations LODWICK, John Leighton Excelsior Springs, Missouri Income tax evasion LOPEZ, Hildebrando San Isidro, Texas Distribution of cocaine LUACES, Jose Julio Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Possession of an unregistered firearm MANESS, James Timothy Conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance MANNING, James Lowell Little Rock, Arkansas Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return MARTIN, John Robert Gulf Breeze, Florida Income tax evasion MARTINEZ, Frank Ayala Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service MARTINEZ, Silvia Leticia Beltran Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service McCORMICK, John Francis Dedham, Massachusetts Racketeering conspiracy, racketeering, and violation of the Hobbs act McDOUGAL, Susan H. MECHANIC, Howard Lawrence 1. Violating the Civil Disobedience Act of 1968 2. Failure to appear 3. Making false statement in acquiring a passport MITCHELL, Brook K., Sr. Conspiracy to illegally obtain USDA subsidy payments, false statements to USDA, and false entries on USDA forms MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute cocaine MORISON, Samuel Loring Crofton, Maryland Willful transmission of defense information, unauthorized possession and retention of defense information, theft of government property NAZZARO, Richard Anthony Winchester, Massachusetts Perjury and conspiracy to commit mail fraud NOSENKO, Charlene Ann Phoenix, Arizona Conspiracy to defraud the United States, and influencing or injuring an officer or juror generally OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond Belleville, Illinois Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, distribution of cocaine, and using a communications facility to facilitate distribution of cocaine OGALDE, Miguelina Glendale, California Conspiracy to import cocaine OWEN, David C. Olathe, Kansas Filing a false tax return PALMER, Robert W. Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to make false statements PERHOSKY, Kelli Anne Bridgeville, Pennsylvania Conspiracy to commit mail fraud PEZZOPANE, Richard H. Palo Heights, Illinois Conspiracy to commit racketeering, and mail fraud PHILLIPS, Orville Rex Waco, Texas Unlawful structure of a financial transaction POLING, Vinson Stewart, Jr. Baldwin, Maryland Making a false bank entry, and aiding and abetting PROUSE, Norman Lyle Conyers, Georgia Operating or directing the operation of a common carrier while under the influence of alcohol PRUITT, Willie H. H., Jr. Port Richey, Florida Absent without official leave PURSLEY, Danny Martin, Sr. Goodlettsville, Tennessee Aiding and abetting the conduct of an illegal gambling business, and obstruction of state laws to facilitate illegal gambling RAVENEL, Charles D. Charleston, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud the United States RAY, William Clyde Altus, Oklahoma Fraud using a telephone REGALADO, Alfredo Luna Pharr, Texas Failure to report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States RICAFORT, Ildefonso Reynes Houston, Texas Submission of false claims to Veterans Administration RICH, Marc Switzerland RIDDLE, Howard Winfield Mt. Crested Butte, Colorado Violation of the Lacey Act (receipt of illegally imported animal skins) RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr. Possession of cocaine with intent to distribute ROBBINS, Samuel Lee Cedar Park, Texas Misprision of a felony RODRIGUEZ, Joel Gonzales Houston, Texas Theft of mail by a postal employee ROGERS, Michael James McAllen, Texas Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana ROSS, Anna Louise Lubbock, Texas Distribution of cocaine RUST, Gerald Glen Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury RUST, Jerri Ann Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury RUTHERFORD, Bettye June Albuquerque, New Mexico Possession of marijuana with intent to distribute SANDS, Gregory Lee Sioux Falls, South Dakota Conspiracy to distribute cocaine SCHWIMMER, Adolph Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to export arms and ammunition to a foreign country and related charges SERETTI, Albert A., Jr. McKees Rocks, Pennyslvania Conspiracy and wire fraud SHAW, Patricia Campbell Hearst Wilton, Connecticut Armed bank robbery and using a firearm during a felony SMITH, Dennis Joseph Redby, Minnesota 1. Unauthorized absence 2. Failure to obey off-limits instructions 3. Unauthorized absence SMITH, Gerald Owen Florence, Mississippi Armed bank robbery SMITH, Stephen A. SPEAKE, Jimmie Lee Breckenridge, Texas Conspiracy to possess and utter counterfeit $20 Federal Reserve notes STEWART, Charles Bernard Sparta, Georgia Illegally destroying U.S. Mail STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca Euclid, Ohio Conspiracy to distribute cocaine SYMINGTON, John Fife, III TANNEHILL, Richard Lee Reno, Nevada Conspiracy and restraint of trade TENAGLIA, Nicholas C. Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania Receipt of illegal payments under the Medicare program THOMAS, Gary Allen Lancaster, Texas Theft of mail by postal employee TODD, Larry Weldon Gardendale, Texas Conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S. in violation of the Lacey Act and the Airborne Hunting Act TREVINO, Olga C. Converse, Texas Misapplication by a bank employee VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious Exeter, New Hampshire Possession of cocaine VAN DE WEERD, Patricia A. Tomahawk, Wisconsin Theft by a U.S. Postal employee WADE, Christopher V. WARMATH, Bill Wayne Walls, Mississippi Obstruction of correspondence WATSON, Jack Kenneth Oakridge, Oregon Making false statements of material facts to the U.S. Forest Service WEBB, Donna Lynn Panama City, Florida False entry in savings and loan record by employee WELLS, Donald William Phenix City, Alabama Possession of an unregistered firearm WENDT, Robert H. Kirkwood, Missouri Conspiracy to effectuate the escape of a federal prisoner WILLIAMS, Jack L. Making false statements to federal agents WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur Omaha, Nebraska Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute crack cocaine WILLIAMS, Robert Michael Davison, Michigan Conspiracy to transport in foreign commerce securities obtained by fraud WILSON, Jimmie Lee Helena, Arkansas Converting property mortgaged or pledged to a farm credit agency, and converting public money to personal use WINGATE, Thelma Louise Sale City, Georgia Mail fraud WOOD, Mitchell Couey Sherwood, Arkansas Conspiracy to possess and to distribute cocaine WOOD, Warren Stannard Las Vegas, Nevada Conspiracy to defraud the United States by filing a false document with the Securities and Exchange Commission WORTHEY, Dewey Conway, Arkansas Medicaid fraud YALE, Rick Allen Belleville, Illinois Bank fraud YASAK, Joseph A. Chicago, Illinois Knowingly making under oath a false declaration regarding a material fact before a grand jury YINGLING, William Stanley Interstate transportation of stolen vehicle YOUNG, Phillip David Little Rock, Arkansas Interstate transportation and sale of fish and wildlife Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #115 June 23, 2004 Well, my post may not be quite as shocking GM, what with its relatively small size, but that's just because i'm only posting a link to a chart showing who the skydiving president pardoned. You can do the rest of the legwork yourself. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #116 June 23, 2004 QuoteI suppose it is settled that each in his own way is a "bad person"... at least lying about blow jobs doesn't put anyone's life in danger.... driving drunk sure as hell does!! I suppose it'd be different if he'd hit someone while driving drunk, huh?? I don't see it any differently, it is just as wrong to drive a vehicle that can be deadly in a state in which your control is limited as it is to actually hit someone with your vehicle while drunk. Committing perjury by lying about getting a blow job is wrong. Driving drunk is, imo, even more wrong. And you are to young to know that 20-30 years ago a DUI was no big deal....It is a big deal now, but when Bush got his it was not. Its not like he got one while he was in office. However, perjury has ALWAYS been a big deal. I could not care about the BJ...But I do care that he lied under oath. Also I am not holding Flowers against Clinton....I am holding his lying under oath against him...Something he did WHILE being the President...I am not holding a minior discretion that he did 25 years ago against him. Big difference."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #117 June 23, 2004 QuoteAnd you are to young to know that 20-30 years ago a DUI was no big deal....It is a big deal now, but when Bush got his it was not. He was arrested, put on trial, and convicted of a crime. I would think that's a big deal in any decade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #118 June 23, 2004 QuoteHe was arrested, put on trial, and convicted of a crime. I would think that's a big deal in any decade. Uh, if I am arrested for jaywalking vs Murder...There is a big difference. Back 25 years ago, a DUI was not a big deal. A slap on the wrist...I knew several people that had them. Today it is a much bigger deal. Clinton lied under oath. So we have a guy that is the President of the United States lying under oath about doing something that was not a big deal...What other things that were a big deal would he lie about? We have a guy that 25 years ago got a DUI....He served his time and has since not had another problem. We have a third guy that admitted to commiting war crimes, and letting war crimes happen while he watched. Out of the three.....I'll go with the guy with the 25 year old DUI."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #119 June 23, 2004 Please don't take this as a partisan comment because I don't mean for it to be. Back when I got my license, a DUI wasn't that severe an offense. Don't get me wrong. I think it is now, take it very seriously, and won't do it. Back then, however, I did a lot. I should have gotten a DUI on several occasions. I was let go one night to drive straight home when I was PISS drunk (I emphasize that) by a police officer who happened to be the brother of a guy I went to high school with. Another let me go crossing the bridge leaving Columbus, GA and heading back to Auburn, AL. I could hardly see straight and I had friends in the car with me that night. I've got friends who've had DUI's from back then. Again, I've changed a bunch since then and don't do that kind of stuff anymore but it just wasn't the offense back then as it is now. Now, lying under oath and committing perjury...that's a serious crime! You can't really compare the two. You couldn't even really compare the two if we were talking about a DUI within the last decade. It's still "apples and oranges" IMO. I still think they're both wrong, however, I can't see the two as being equal just because you're tried, convicted, and sent to jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #120 June 23, 2004 I understand the penalty wasn't as severe. But just because the penalty has changed doesn't mean it was "less serious" back then. It still killed people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #121 June 23, 2004 QuoteI understand the penalty wasn't as severe. But just because the penalty has changed doesn't mean it was "less serious" back then. It still killed people. What Ron and Pajarito are saying is true. A DUI wasn't considered any more serious than speeding. I had a friend who was pulled over, given a ticket and then driven home by the Police Officer. He wasn't even required to appear in court, just pay a $50.00 ticket and 3 points on his license IIRC. Thing change and societys attitudes change. Remember, there was a time when cocaine and heroin were legal. Cocoa Cola even had real cocaine in it. It was acceptable back then but isn't now. You certainly wouldn't view an opium smoker like Edgar Allen Poe back then the same way you would today. I applaud groups like MADD for changing societys attitude towards drunk driving and drunk drivers. They have saved tens of thousands of lives. But, you can't really be too hard on GWB for getting charged with something that wasn't view as any worse than a speeding ticket back then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,550 #122 June 23, 2004 I was of driving age back then, and understood it was quite wrong. Drove really looped once, and realized that if something happened there was no way I'd be able to deal with it. That was in 1977, so the information was available at least to me. The official penalty should not be the only determinant of how wrong something is. Comparing being caught driving drunk with lying under oath about a blowjob is comparing apples and oranges. Both are fruit, yes, but there are a lot of differences. Some folks like apples, some like oranges. So which is better? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #123 June 23, 2004 QuoteComparing being caught driving drunk with lying under oath about a blowjob is comparing apples and oranges. Both are fruit, yes, but there are a lot of differences. Some folks like apples, some like oranges. So which is better? Can't answer that until you tell me which one represents the blow job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
