Muenkel 0 #51 June 18, 2004 Quote>In the end who do you think will win? Short answer: I just don't know. This is my answer as well. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #52 June 18, 2004 I think Kerry will win, although not for much. Bush has screwed up way too many times. Besides, citizens will probably consider the trayectory of the candidates. I mean, if bush gets reelected he will get cocky and will think it is god´s will, making him more extremist in his political views. And on top of that he will have nothing to loose. He cannot be reelected again, so he only have to make sure he doesn´t get inpeached (i don´t know what else he would have to do to get that). In the other hand, if Kerry gets elected, he will have to do a good job if he want any chance to be reelected within 4 years. So i think it is safer to vote kerry and probably many people will think likewise, even moderate republicans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #53 June 18, 2004 QuoteI mean, if bush gets reelected he will get cocky and will think it is god´s will, making him more extremist in his political views. Did your crystal ball tell you that? Or was it the mirror on the wall? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #54 June 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnyone but Bush. He's an asshat. He's an asshat. He's an asshat. And to think they give you a vote... Maybe it should be "drinking age 18; voting age, one year later than whatever age you are". If this is the "reasoning" that goes into your voting decisions, woe be our system. For the record, I was kidding. If you want my real reasons, here they are. He's making an attempt at pushing religion back into government (or basing laws off Christianity) in a country that is not all Christian. He's trying to run the country out of a bible, and that's not right. He's killing what used to be Civil Rights by doing all he can to do away with gay marriages, and the only excuse he has for it is "I know it's not right". He's taking away freedom of speech by pushing the FCC and letting them censor whatever they please, controlling what we hear. He attacked a country that didn't attack us. And last but not least, he's an asshat. That good enough for you Jeffrey? Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #55 June 18, 2004 Quote (about voting Libertarian) i agree, unfortunately voting for him means you will have less than your single vote's weight when it comes to who really ends up in the executive seat next term. Not really. Alabama will go to Bush, no questions asked, just like Jersey will go to Kerry. It's one of those things not up for debate. Since I would vote for Bush if limited to the big two, I'm ok with making a statement instead, and voting for who I actually want in the whitehouse.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #56 June 18, 2004 My crystal ball told me that if Bush now does what he pleases thinking that it is god´s wishes, being reelacted will only reinforce him in his believes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #57 June 18, 2004 Bush will win... Again. By 5 votes to 4... Again. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #58 June 18, 2004 QuoteI do NOT see what is written there as a prohibition against anything except making LAWS that ESTABLISH a state religion. Not sure what exactly is meant by "respecting" an establishment of religion, but I take that to mean "with regard to." Congress shall make no laws with regard to an establishment of religion. Well said. The desire by some to remove all references to God/religion from government entities is not supported by the constitution.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #59 June 18, 2004 QuoteHe's killing what used to be Civil Rights by doing all he can to do away with gay marriages, Are you ready for father/son, mother/daughter, father/daughter marriages, etc. marriages? I think that is what you must accept if you give gays the right to marry. QuoteHe's trying to run the country out of a bible, Of course his faith in God is important to him, but how has he run the country out of a bible? QuoteHe's taking away freedom of speech by pushing the FCC and letting them censor whatever they please, controlling what we hear. Would you like your kids to be listening to whatever Howard Stern wants to say before school with their friends. Some limitation on broadcast radio and television is OK with you, isn't it? QuoteHe attacked a country that didn't attack us. He attacked us every other day or so when trying to shoot down planes patrolling the no fly zone. He did not and would not live up to his obligations under the cease fire agreement. What should the consequences be? You can't have freedom for free. The prime minister of England before Winston Churchill, Neville Chamberlain thought that he could. Churchill was thought of by many as a warmonger/extremist. That opinion later changed. 'The Gathering Storm' by Churchill is a good read. See ya Saturday?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #60 June 18, 2004 Quote See ya Saturday? Nope, goin to Tecumseh, thanks! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
favaks 0 #61 June 21, 2004 QuoteWould you like your kids to be listening to whatever Howard Stern wants to say before school with their friends. Some limitation on broadcast radio and television is OK with you, isn't it? And the religous crap on Sunday morning is any better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #62 June 21, 2004 um... why wouldn't a parent be monitoring what their children are listening to on the radio? that's a parent's job, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #63 June 21, 2004 Quoteum... why wouldn't a parent be monitoring what their children are listening to on the radio? that's a parent's job, isn't it? No, it's the government's job to protect our children from the airwaves. It's always the government's job to protect our children from "satan". When they go and try to educate them about Aids and condoms though, look out boy. At least I think that's the way the right wing rant goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #64 June 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteum... why wouldn't a parent be monitoring what their children are listening to on the radio? that's a parent's job, isn't it? No, it's the government's job to protect our children from the airwaves. It's always the government's job to protect our children from "satan". When they go and try to educate them about Aids and condoms though, look out boy. At least I think that's the way the right wing rant goes. Mr. Ashcroft? You post here? How's that "Ministry of Homeland Purification" thing going? Gotta make sure that we cleanse all non Fundies outta our WASPy Fatherland. Heil!, er I mean "Amen." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #65 June 21, 2004 Dude, you are KILLING me with that avatar..."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #66 June 21, 2004 QuoteBush will win... Again. By 5 votes to 4... Again. ROFLMAO. It took me a few minutes to get that. A little slow on the uptake today. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #67 June 22, 2004 QuoteAnd the religous crap on Sunday morning is any better? If you want to advocate FCC standards that would cause the religious 'crap' to be restricted, then have at it.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #68 June 22, 2004 I think Kerry will win, and by a surprisingly large margin. Why ? "The emporer has no clothes", people are starting to figure out that Bush is incompetent and given the choice they'd really rather not have to put up with another four years of it, wondering what the hell he's going to do next. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #69 June 22, 2004 Quotewhy wouldn't a parent be monitoring what their children are listening to on the radio? that's a parent's job, isn't it? Sounds so easy. Radio is a broadcast medium, easily available away from home. I support the FCC having the authority to enforce some standards for content. I don't let my kids watch TV shows that I enjoy , such as South Park, or Beavis and Butthead, Sealab 2021, and wouldn't want them to be able to watch them as easily as tuning in a local radio station on any portable radio. Do you think there should be any standards for broadcast radio and TV?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #70 June 22, 2004 If Gore had been successful in stealing the election with the help of the Florida Supreme Court, would you have bemoaned the fact that he won 7-3 or whatever it was, or complained that he was selected instead of elected? I think not. Dems complain because they lost. Bush did not steal the election, as proven by all the newspapers that spent months doing their own recount with their own standards. Guess what, Bush won! The US Supreme Court did their job by stopping a selective recount without standards. I would love to see the entire history of the Florida recount made into a documentary. It would be a fine campaign ad for Republicans. It would show how Democrats felt so entitled to power that any corrupt actions taken to obtain that power were justified. Remember all the crap about 'voting irregularities'? It was all crap. The Florida Supreme Court was asked by the US Supreme Court to explain their decision in very specific ways. They did not because they could not. It was awful that the US Supreme Court had to get involved in the election, but the blame lies with Gore and the Florida Supreme Court. Remember the attempts to invalidate overseas military votes? edit - I remember an old James Cagney movie where he was a political manipulator, getting his guy elected. While getting a shave at a barber shop, he barked out in a classic Cagney style, "If he doesn't win, we'll get a recount, and if he doesn't win then, we'll recount again - see!".People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #71 June 22, 2004 I think Bush will win, and by a comfortable margin. Reasons: 1) The economy (especially if it continues to improve) 2) OBL will be captured (very speculative) 3) Cheney will be replaced with Rudy (even more speculative)“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #72 June 22, 2004 Quote Remember the attempts to invalidate overseas military votes? That's where Gore lost any moral high ground. He only cared about voting irregularities in counties where he stood to gain. Nader makes a better blame target than the Supremes. But then again, it's the party's fault for ignoring the left end of the party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #73 June 22, 2004 Quote Radio is a broadcast medium, easily available away from home. I support the FCC having the authority to enforce some standards for content. I don't let my kids watch TV shows that I enjoy , such as South Park, or Beavis and Butthead, Sealab 2021, and wouldn't want them to be able to watch them as easily as tuning in a local radio station on any portable radio. Do you think there should be any standards for broadcast radio and TV? All media should not be dumbed down to make up for the lack of your parenting. The end result appears that we will have to pay for satellite radio to get programming that cannot be targetted by government officials. As low brow as Stern can be, he looks like an intellectual giant compared to recent reality offerings on network TV during the same restricted hours. Decency standards are set by the community norms. Given Howard's ratings, apparently his show is in the ball park. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #74 June 22, 2004 QuoteAs low brow as Stern can be, he looks like an intellectual giant compared to recent reality offerings on network TV during the same restricted hours. I also find it ridiculous that from 6-10am, when kids are either at home with their parents or at school, you have censorship. But after 10pm, while they're alone in their bedroom with their own tv, no problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #75 June 22, 2004 QuoteIf Gore had been successful in stealing the election with the help of the Florida Supreme Court, would you have bemoaned the fact that he won 7-3 or whatever it was, or complained that he was selected instead of elected? Damn right I would. It's called "Humour" QuoteI think not. Dems complain because they lost. Err... I'm not a "Democrat", nor a "Republican", although if you look at my previous posts I probably come out as right wing. IT WAS A JOKE DAMMIT!! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
