mjosparky 4 #1 June 16, 2004 Communist Vietnamese Honor John Kerry, the War Protestor, as a Hero in the Communist Victory over the United States in the Vietnam War. In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph shows Senator Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Muoi. Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph over the Memorial Day weekend as America was commemorating its military heroes. Epstein's organization, Vietnam Vets for the Truth, had issued a general request last week for photographs documenting Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy. Bob Shirley, a Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200 other Swift Boat veterans in signing an open letter questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 June 16, 2004 Not surprised in the least. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #3 June 16, 2004 for every anti-Kerry letter there's an anti-Bush one. www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/13/bush.criticism/index.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #4 June 16, 2004 Quote for every anti-Kerry letter there's an anti-Bush one. I love how you try to change things to make them fit. Kerry being honored by the Vietnamese for helping them "defeat" us is not comparable to complaints regarding Bush's foreign policy. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #5 June 17, 2004 What a great campaign ad that would be! Makes a lot more sense than saying that Kerry would raise taxes a certain amount because of his spending proposals. That kind of conclusion can be explained/spun/twisted away by the opposition Instead, let your opponent and his supporters write their own ads. Another endorsement secured by John Kerry! Another foreign leader who supports John Kerry! He doesn't have a chance.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 June 17, 2004 Quote for every anti-Kerry letter there's an anti-Bush one. www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/13/bush.criticism/index.html When you swing, do you always miss by this much?My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #7 June 17, 2004 QuoteWhen you swing, do you always miss by this much? I could feel the breeze all the way over here!People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #8 June 17, 2004 We have been down this road before, The people that served with Kerry are still saying he is a standup guy. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #9 June 17, 2004 QuoteAnd in spite of your of your refusal to receive a pm Know what? I understand why Sparky blocked you if that's the way you talk to him. Good grief, what's with the personal attacking? Deal with the issue, and not the messenger. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #10 June 17, 2004 Would you perfer that I post his pm's to me to make a point? AS if. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 June 17, 2004 Quote Would you perfer that I post his pm's to me to make a point? AS if. Nope. But I would prefer you manage to stick to the rules of the forum. AS if.... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 June 17, 2004 Quote The Forum Rules: No personal attacks. No jokes about or references to pedophilia. None. No advertising in the forums. Post to the correct forum and stay on topic. Let's keep the name calling to a minimum -- and I mean that in the nicest possible way. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #13 June 17, 2004 Done deal. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #14 June 17, 2004 QuoteWe have been down this road before, The people that served with Kerry are still saying he is a standup guy. Sure, except for that whole slew of people who served with him who said he was "unfit to be commander-in-chief" -- or did you forget about that? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #15 June 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnd in spite of your of your refusal to receive a pm Know what? I understand why Sparky blocked you if that's the way you talk to him. Good grief, what's with the personal attacking? Deal with the issue, and not the messenger. Ciels- Michele Well it seems to me that a reprimand is a lot more preferable than the TWO WEEKS ban I was given for simply saying "fuck you" to someone who had essentially called me a liar. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #16 June 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd in spite of your of your refusal to receive a pm Know what? I understand why Sparky blocked you if that's the way you talk to him. Good grief, what's with the personal attacking? Deal with the issue, and not the messenger. Ciels- Michele Well it seems to me that a reprimand is a lot more preferable than the TWO WEEKS ban I was given for simply saying "fuck you" to someone who had essentially called me a liar. - Yeah, but you aren't a Lefty so the rules are different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #17 June 17, 2004 Yes, it is called affirmative banning."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #18 June 17, 2004 QuoteWell it seems to me that a reprimand is a lot more preferable than the TWO WEEKS ban I was given for simply saying "fuck you" to someone who had essentially called me a liar. Don't complain to me, I'm not green. Perhaps asking them - or even the red guy - would net you some answers, 'cause I've got none. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #19 June 17, 2004 Not complaining to you. I just suspect that a bias was held against me, personally, in the doling-out of that punishment. I don't know what the "average" ban is, but I do know that certain moderators give a warning, or edit a post and then notify the poster to tone it down, etc. I simply found myself trying to log on and Speakers Corner was simply unavailable. I had to PM just to find out what the hell had happened. I don't imagine for a second that the same moderator dishes out 2 week bans as vindictively as was done in my case, to others meriting censure. My suspicion is that personal feelings played a part, since this moderator and I bang heads on the forum quite often, ideologically and verbally. Blue skies, --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #20 June 17, 2004 Ah, I see. Well, I know of several people who've had 2 weeks - or more - banning. I think that it's somewhat common. I don't know, because I was given a warning about 2 years ago, and handled the problems off the board, and never needed to deal with it again. And the person and I are now friends, too. Funny, that... Taking something that personally, though, PJ, isn't really going to do any good, I don't think. Maybe making sure you follow the rules and don't give them much to get in a froth about might be better... Bottom line, I suspect, is that it's over now, and time to move on. How's that sound? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #21 June 17, 2004 QuoteQuote for every anti-Kerry letter there's an anti-Bush one. www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/13/bush.criticism/index.html When you swing, do you always miss by this much? you quoted: "Bob Shirley, a Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200 other Swift Boat veterans in signing an open letter questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief. " And I quoted a letter from a bunch of former ambassadors and a former chairman of the JCS for Reagan saying that Bush is unfit to be President. For every anti-Kerry group you can find at least one anti-Bush group.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #22 June 17, 2004 Kerry must be so proud... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #23 June 18, 2004 QuoteFor every anti-Kerry group you can find at least one anti-Bush group. So what does the balance of groups on one side or the other prove? If the balance was 10:1 would that prove something? Seems like a weak way to support a position, "Just as many say it isn't so - na na pllffff!"People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #24 June 18, 2004 QuoteYeah, but you aren't a Lefty so the rules are different. How true. Heck, a low-rent Lefty on here essentially labeled me a pedophile on here a few months ago and never missed a beat. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites