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that is pretty scary K......
Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004
Quote>For some reason, many people in the U.S., to some extent, did not
>realize that terrorism existed until it showed up on our front door and
>knocked it down with an airliner.
Yeah, I never understood that. Terrorists tried to blow up the WTC over ten years ago and failed, although they killed six people trying. Yet we didn't really start to worry until the next attempt, which was successful.
Actually, I think a lot of people knew it existed, they just thought that someone was doing something about it. Theoretically, an event like the first WTC bombing would have galvanized the resolve of govt leaders. Too bad nothing was done in '93.
billvon 3,120
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>Increased security? Sure that sounds good. Oh.....you mean we have to
> stand in line at the airport longer? That's bullshit! Everyone should know
>that I'm not a terrorist.
>Tighter controls on explosives? Yeah we need that! Wait.....I can't play
>with the types of model rockets I want? Don't you see the ivory tower I live
>in? I'm not a terrorist!
"Preventing terrorists from getting their hands on the tools of their trade? Hey, I'm all for that! Let's not give those. . . . wait a minute! You mean GUNS? You ain't touching my guns! That's total bullshit! I got a god-given second amendment right to own many assault weapons! Why don't you go after model rockets instead?"
"And we should stop giving terrorist-harboring countries so much money, definitely. Let's stop the money flow, so they can't finance terror. We can - now just hold on! You're talking about OIL? You can do whatever you want to those business travelers, but you ain't getting the keys to my SUV until you pry them out of my cold, dead fingers!"
As usual, right wingers have no problem at all with laws until they are actually inconvenienced by them.
> stand in line at the airport longer? That's bullshit! Everyone should know
>that I'm not a terrorist.
>Tighter controls on explosives? Yeah we need that! Wait.....I can't play
>with the types of model rockets I want? Don't you see the ivory tower I live
>in? I'm not a terrorist!
"Preventing terrorists from getting their hands on the tools of their trade? Hey, I'm all for that! Let's not give those. . . . wait a minute! You mean GUNS? You ain't touching my guns! That's total bullshit! I got a god-given second amendment right to own many assault weapons! Why don't you go after model rockets instead?"
"And we should stop giving terrorist-harboring countries so much money, definitely. Let's stop the money flow, so they can't finance terror. We can - now just hold on! You're talking about OIL? You can do whatever you want to those business travelers, but you ain't getting the keys to my SUV until you pry them out of my cold, dead fingers!"
As usual, right wingers have no problem at all with laws until they are actually inconvenienced by them.
About the only thing "sacrifice" is doing is getting my friends shot at.
Most of us here at home don't feel any safer than we did on 9/10/01.
Most of us here at home don't feel any safer than we did on 9/10/01.
QuoteQuoteQuoteMaybe somebody should tell that jackass there is no swastika on the confederate flag...
No, but it's the functional equivalent...
What do you mean by "functional equivalent"? I'm just curious...
~R+R
Both the Rebel Flag and the Swastika are symbols of evil empired that subjugated others to their tyrranical whims. The holocaust can be compared to slavery...
QuoteQuoteIt's about freedom, a concept some in law enforcement have a hard time with.
It's about sacrifice, a concept a large number of Americans have a hard time with. It's too bad the terrorists aren't having a hard time with it.
I'll sacrifice a lot of things but my constitutional freedoms are not on the list. It sucks that it takes longer to get through the airport but I'm willing to bet the regularly traveling business man has a harder time with this sacrifice than I do. If he wants to subject himself to a background check and pay a fee to get through the line quicker more power to him. However I don't think either of us want our e-mails screened or someone tracking them down because of what they posted on a board like this.
Hell my 12 year old son mentioned in school once that the planet would be better off without people and he now has a file at the police department indicating he made terroristic statements.
Sorry it is not up to me to prove myself innocent. It is up to authorties to prove me guilty and they have to have cause before they can start snooping around.
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"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
So very true.
We added on all of this wonderful new security at huge expense and yet we supposedly have seven known terrorist roaming the country. Presumably they came in since 9/11.
"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
We added on all of this wonderful new security at huge expense and yet we supposedly have seven known terrorist roaming the country. Presumably they came in since 9/11.
"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
Zenister 0
Quote>Sounds more like you experienced "road rage" first hand...chill out......
It's not road rage, it's patriotism! Unless you are on Al Qaeda's side, of course . . . (joke! that was a joke!)
>For some reason, many people in the U.S., to some extent, did not
>realize that terrorism existed until it showed up on our front door and
>knocked it down with an airliner.
Yeah, I never understood that. Terrorists tried to blow up the WTC over ten years ago and failed, although they killed six people trying. Yet we didn't really start to worry until the next attempt, which was successful.
part of that is even the people and organizations that recognized the problem painted it as a law enforement issue and not a military one. Which kept(and still keeps) a numbers of assets unused
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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Quotepart of the problem was even the people and organizations that recognized the problem painted it as a law enforement issue and not a military one. Which kept(and still keeps) la numbers of assets unused
Part of the problem was the perception that it created. The "attack the US and they won't retaliate" image.
This was reinforced in Somalia. Then it was "shoot some Americans and they will go home". Then it was back to business as usual.
This one continues on. SH thought that he could shoot a few Americans and they would leave Iraq and then it would be back to the old game.
If the perception had been strength, the 2nd attack would probably not have occurred.
Cut off the snakes head, the snake dies. If someone had nailed OBL back in '93, things would have been a lot calmer afterwards.
billvon 3,120
>This one continues on. SH thought that he could shoot a few Americans
>and they would leave Iraq and then it would be back to the old game.
The Iraq war was probably the best thing that could have happened for Bin Laden. We took out one of his enemies, we shifted our concentration from his old stomping grounds to someone else, and we gave his supporters a new place to kill americans (and to gather converts who had their children killed by US bombs.)
Want to stop Bin Laden? Concentrate on Afghanistan, which is still ruled primarily by warlords and drug dealer, and the borders with Pakistan.
>and they would leave Iraq and then it would be back to the old game.
The Iraq war was probably the best thing that could have happened for Bin Laden. We took out one of his enemies, we shifted our concentration from his old stomping grounds to someone else, and we gave his supporters a new place to kill americans (and to gather converts who had their children killed by US bombs.)
Want to stop Bin Laden? Concentrate on Afghanistan, which is still ruled primarily by warlords and drug dealer, and the borders with Pakistan.
gjhdiver 0
QuoteThat is not true Bill.
Some one who cuts you off isn't nessesarily a terrorist, nor are murders or robbers nessesarily.
But, and organized group of people who have declared a war (literally or figuratively) on other peoples lifestyle or policy, and use unconventional tacticts to persevere, are in fact Terrorists.
The ACLU is a good example of that in this country.
As someone who has been in two terrorist bombings, I would respectlfully like to point out that you haven't the faintest clue of what you're talking about.
When the ACLU bombs your house, or you find yourself picking shards of glass out of your body, get back to me.
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