PhillyKev 0 #1 June 11, 2004 http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-08-wasted-flights_x.htm QuoteThe Defense Department spent an estimated $100 million for airline tickets that were not used over a six-year period and failed to seek refunds even though the tickets were reimbursable, congressional investigators say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 June 11, 2004 I'm so not surprised. No one ever looks after money that isn't theirs. Jackasses. QuoteThe long-term answer will be the automated Defense Travel System (DTS) that controls the travel order and payment process from beginning to end," Now why do I have the suspicion that this "system" is gonna cost almost as much as institute?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #3 June 11, 2004 Quotehttp://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-08-wasted-flights_x.htm QuoteThe Defense Department spent an estimated $100 million for airline tickets that were not used over a six-year period and failed to seek refunds even though the tickets were reimbursable, congressional investigators say. Just borrow some more. No-one cares, it's a drop in the bucket with a $7.26 TRILLION national debt, getting bigger by a record amount every day.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 June 11, 2004 QuoteJust borrow some more. No-one cares, it's a drop in the bucket with a $7.26 TRILLION national debt, getting bigger by a record amount every day. Um it started under CLINTON, and it was caught under Bush... QuoteThe GAO estimated that between 1997 and 2003, the Defense Department bought at least $100 million in tickets that were not used or used only partially by a passenger who did not complete all legs of a flight. The waste went undetected because the department relied on individuals to report the unused tickets.They did not do so. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 June 11, 2004 Quoteand it was caught under Bush... Actually, it was caught by Congress. Bush hasn't usurped all of their power yet. And I was pointing out gov't incompetence and oversite, didn't mention anything about any presidents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #6 June 11, 2004 This would explain why they keep hounding my ass for $600 in taxes I can't pay right now. Jackasses indeed. JumpScars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #7 June 11, 2004 QuoteI was pointing out gov't incompetence and oversite, didn't mention anything about any presidents. So why then do some people want to trust healthcare to the government, when they can't even handle their own travel arrangements? Why would anyone want to put more power/money/decisions in the hands of people who are not hurt if they are wrong? (somebody has a sigline referencing that)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #8 June 11, 2004 Well, if you want to hijack, fine. Because the best plan for healthcare that I've seen wouldn't effect the level of service that you can receive. It would guarantee basic health services for everyone, but still allow you to have insurance either through paying for it or from your employer if you wanted something better that that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #9 June 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteI was pointing out gov't incompetence and oversite, didn't mention anything about any presidents. So why then do some people want to trust healthcare to the government, when they can't even handle their own travel arrangements? Why would anyone want to put more power/money/decisions in the hands of people who are not hurt if they are wrong? (somebody has a sigline referencing that) Let's not forget or excuse the dishonesty of the individual government workers who benefited from this, what amounts to fraud. In the article I read, it said that gov't workers were reimbursed for tickets that were bought by the Pentagon in the first place -- meaning the gov't paid for the tickets and then "paid back" the workers as though they had laid-out the money. And there were workers who "mistakenly" traveled first class. How the fuck would you not realize that you should not be flying first-class? Blue skies, --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #10 June 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteI was pointing out gov't incompetence and oversite, didn't mention anything about any presidents. So why then do some people want to trust healthcare to the government, when they can't even handle their own travel arrangements? Why would anyone want to put more power/money/decisions in the hands of people who are not hurt if they are wrong? (somebody has a sigline referencing that) Let's not forget or excuse the dishonesty of the individual government workers who benefited from this, what amounts to fraud. - Or was it corporate welfare for the airlines that took the money and didn't provide a service?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #11 June 12, 2004 So I guess that is like an airline bailout in itself?!? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardigrasbob 0 #12 June 12, 2004 Thought for the day! -------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #13 June 12, 2004 QuoteThought for the day! Well, someone has to preserve the right of lefties everywhere to whine and cry and continually crap on the very principles that keep them in existence. March on right wing war machine! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #14 June 13, 2004 QuoteThought for the day! -------------- Name calling is not generally the hallmark of intelligent debate.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #15 June 13, 2004 QuoteNow why do I have the suspicion that this "system" is gonna cost almost as much as institute? My thought exactly...All the money being "saved" by instituting a "system" will only be funneled through different channels...still a loss...either way...... QuoteName calling is not generally the hallmark of intelligent debate. Neither are oneliners, so what's your point? ~R+R~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #16 June 13, 2004 QuoteQuoteNow why do I have the suspicion that this "system" is gonna cost almost as much as institute? My thought exactly...All the money being "saved" by instituting a "system" will only be funneled through different channels...still a loss...either way...... QuoteName calling is not generally the hallmark of intelligent debate. Neither are oneliners, so what's your point? ~R+R I guess you missed the attachment - and the point.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #17 June 13, 2004 QuoteName calling is not generally the hallmark of intelligent debate. Correct, but it is loads of fun and can be a powerful form of stress relief. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #18 June 13, 2004 A committee was formed to reduce government waste in spending. It found $60 million in waste, and that waste was eliminated. The committee was touted as a huge success. Then the cost of the committee was made public. The committee cost $300 million to set up and run. But it stopped $60 million in waste, so it was a success by government standards. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #19 June 13, 2004 Quote QuoteName calling is not generally the hallmark of intelligent debate. Neither are oneliners, so what's your point? ~R+R I guess you missed the attachment - and the point. Sounds more like you missed the point...but I don't plan on repeating myself... Moving on... ~R+R~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #20 June 13, 2004 To paraphrase PJ O'Rourke, there are 4 types of spending: 1) Your money on yourself. You go for the highest quality for the lowest cost. 2) Your money on others. You lean toward the lowest cost and don't always care about the quality. 3) Other people's money on yourself. You go for the highest quality and who cares what it costs. 4) Other people's money on other people. Who cares what the quality is and who cares the cost? Most government spending falls into category #4. So why should stories like the one above surprise anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1) Your money on yourself. You go for the highest quality for the lowest cost.
2) Your money on others. You lean toward the lowest cost and don't always care about the quality.
3) Other people's money on yourself. You go for the highest quality and who cares what it costs.
4) Other people's money on other people. Who cares what the quality is and who cares the cost?
Most government spending falls into category #4.
So why should stories like the one above surprise anyone?
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