Recent Assault Weapon Ban Info

[Kennedy 0]

Sen Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and 11 co-sponsors (the usual suspects) have introduced legislation (S. 2498) to renew the assault weapon ban.

The banshee from the bay area had to use Rule XIV to get the bill put on the Senate Calendar.

A thorough listing of facts surrounding the AWB are in this thread.


Yahoo-US Newswire

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"There never really has been such support for the ban. When the Democratic Party in elections following the 1994 enactment of the ban lost complete control of Congress for the first time in 60 years, President Clinton admitted publicly that enactment of the ban was one of the major reasons for the astounding defeat."

Remind me again which side is "mainstream"

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[quade 4]

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Remind me again which side is "mainstream"

If you subscribe to the notion that all Democrats are left and all Republicans are right -- then by definition neither is "mainstream".

The reality, however, is that the center is made up from members of both.

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

I thought chances for that shit getting revived were dead and the expiration of the '94 ban was all but a certainty!

How the hell did this happen, and what are the prospects for the ban being passed in one form or another.

Someone better **** that fucking thing. (And I'm not saying whether I mean the ban or the banshee.)

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[jdhill 0]

I don't think it will pass in the Senate... and even if it does, if there is not a similar bill in the House, it won't go anywhere... If one is introduced in the House, it is likely to die (or be held up at least) in sub-committee until after the ban has sunset.

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

[Jimbo 0]

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The banshee from the bay area had to use Rule XIV to get the bill put on the Senate Calendar.

I didn't know what Rule XIV was until today. For the rest of you who are wondering:

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The Legislative Process
Committee Referral and Rule XIV
The Senate's standing committees play an essential part in the legislative process, as they select the small percentage of the bills introduced each Congress which, in their judgment, deserve the attention of the Senate as a whole, and as they recommend amendments to these bills based on their expert knowledge and experience. Most bills are routinely referred to the committee with appropriate jurisdiction as soon as they are introduced. But if a Senator plans to introduce a bill and believes that the committee to which it would be referred will be unsympathetic, Rule XIV permits the Senator to bypass the standing committee system altogether and have the bill placed directly on the Calendar of Business, with exactly the same formal status the bill would have if it had been the subject of extensive hearings and exhaustive mark-up meetings in committee.

By the same token, if a committee fails to act on a bill that was referred to it, the bill may die for lack of action, but not the proposal it embodies. The Senator sponsoring the bill may introduce a new bill with exactly the same provisions as the first, and have the second bill placed directly on the Calendar. In either event, the committee that has been circumvented may oppose bringing the bill from the Calendar to the floor by unanimous consent or by motion, but now the fate of the bill can be decided by the Senate as a whole, not only by one of its committees. Senators generally view this use of Rule XIV as a last resort, both because it undermines the committee system as a whole and because they do not wish to encourage a practice that can be used against their own committees.

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Jim

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[PhillyKev 0]

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I didn't know what Rule XIV was until today

Geez, I can't believe you admitted that in public. How do you look people in the eyes?

[Kennedy 0]

Did you truly not realize I was talking about one side of this debate versus the other side?

I put that sentence directly below the quote for a reason. The vast majority of Americans believe in the right to own firearms, and were they told the truth about the AWB, I'm sure even more people would writing their senators asking "WTF."

(when Democrats from Georgia are more conservative than Republicans from New Jersey, don't you think I know party lines only go so far?)

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[Kennedy 0]

The prospects are basically nil for passing the bill into law.

There are several senators that could vote either way, taking the Senate with them to pass it or not, but there are not enough senators to stop a filibuster (which would surely ensue), and there is certainly not enough votes to pass it in the House.

It's not going to happen, but that doesn't mean those fucknuts are going to stop trying.

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[kallend 2,150]

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The prospects are basically nil for passing the bill into law.

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Then the Congress should buy beer for everyone. It will be the first time ever that a bill that looks good cosmetically but has no actual useful function will have been rejected.

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