stuffit 0 #1 June 3, 2004 Giving a medal of freedom to someone who tried to hide child molesters? FUCK THAT! Quote Bush to Give Pope Presidential Medal of Freedom ROME (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) will award Pope John Paul (news - web sites) the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, the highest U.S. civilian award, a U.S. official said Thursday. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the pontiff was being honored for "years of fighting for freedom and for his important moral voice." Bush is to meet the Polish pope at the Vatican (news - web sites) Friday. The pope strongly opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq (news - web sites) and last week publicly condemned torture as an affront to human dignity, seen as a veiled reference to American abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison. In November the U.S. House of Representatives approved a bi-partisan resolution to encourage Bush to give the 84-year-old Roman Catholic leader the medal for his contribution to the fall of communism and his defense of freedom throughout the world. The last pope to receive the medal was Pope John XXIII, who was given it posthumously in 1963. President Harry Truman founded the award in 1945 and President John F. Kennedy re-introduced it in 1963. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #2 June 3, 2004 QuoteGiving a medal of freedom to someone who tried to hide child molesters? It makes perfect sense, the Pope was trying to keep the child molesters free. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 June 3, 2004 Quote QuoteGiving a medal of freedom to someone who tried to hide child molesters? It makes perfect sense, the Pope was trying to keep the child molesters free. - Jim HA! Hey, that's cool. Him and Arafat can get together. The Pope with his medal of Freedom and Arafat with the Nobel Peace Prize. They can sit there and laugh and laugh and laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #4 June 3, 2004 QuoteIn November the U.S. House of Representatives approved a bi-partisan resolution to encourage Bush to give the 84-year-old Roman Catholic leader the medal for his contribution to the fall of communism and his defense of freedom throughout the world. I wonder what prompted that? -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 June 3, 2004 cough, cough, ex communication, catholics being catholic, cough ps - as I recall, the vatican wanted to stop this as much as the American bishops and chior boys everywhere. We do happen to be one of the wealthiest nations around, so dropping attendance equals dropping coffers. And then there's that whole not being an evil s.o.b. thing. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 June 3, 2004 Sometimes, when a man is about to die, you do something nice to recognize some of the good things he may have done even while ignoring some really stupid things he may have done or said agaisnt you personally. I can't say I'd do it in this case, but I do understand it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #7 June 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteIn November the U.S. House of Representatives approved a bi-partisan resolution to encourage Bush to give the 84-year-old Roman Catholic leader the medal for his contribution to the fall of communism and his defense of freedom throughout the world. I wonder what prompted that? THE CATHOLIC VOTE"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 June 4, 2004 hmmm - could be because he believes in not killing unborn babies - just a thought. Well, you know - sKerry does too, but JUST not politically. Personally it is wrong - but he won't stand up to it will he? Convictions - get some.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 June 4, 2004 QuoteSometimes, when a man is about to die, you do something nice to recognize some of the good things he may have done even while ignoring some really stupid things he may have done or said agaisnt you personally. I can't say I'd do it in this case, but I do understand it. You mean like the comments Trent Lott made about Strom Thurmond? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 June 4, 2004 Something like that, although I'm almost sure you'll agree that Strom Thurmond wasn't anywhere near the level of world importance as the Pope. The other difference is that Lott made a HUGE mistake by referencing some very unfortunate events. The idea at those times is to just sort of ignore them and not postulate what would have happened if . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #11 June 4, 2004 >Personally it is wrong - but he won't stand up to it will he? Which is exactly how I feel. It's a vile and selfish thing to do, but I don't have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. >Convictions - get some. Get all you want. Just don't shove them down anyone else's throat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 June 4, 2004 QuoteSomething like that, although I'm almost sure you'll agree that Strom Thurmond wasn't anywhere near the level of world importance as the Pope. Well, yes I agree Strom Thumond wasn't as important as the pope however I thought your statement was less specific than that. Did your comment only apply to the Pope or would you apply it to anyone getting close to the end of their life? QuoteThe other difference is that Lott made a HUGE mistake by referencing some very unfortunate events. The idea at those times is to just sort of ignore them and not postulate what would have happened if . . . Uhhh.. O.K. .... uhhh yeah right...... I think I'm beginning to uhhhhh..... understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 June 4, 2004 Yes. My statement stands that sometimes you do and say nice things for really old folks that are probably going to die soon. It's a generic statement. My point was that the President of the U.S. would/should probably do this for any very well known political leader -- The Pope in this case. I'll also agree that -somebody- had to say -something- nice about Thurmond. Almost everthing Lott said was appropriate, he just -really- blew it by suggesting that things would have been better off if Thurmond had been in charge during the time he was being more publically bigoted -- just a really dumb move on Lott's part to even mention the time period. There was no way for that to look good for Thurmond or Lott. Stupid speech writing.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #14 June 4, 2004 Quotehmmm - could be because he believes in not killing unborn babies - just a thought. Well, you know - sKerry does too, but JUST not politically. Personally it is wrong - but he won't stand up to it will he? Convictions - get some. Yeah Pope also believes in no birth control ie use of condoms etc, is against the death penalty and takes strong stand on certain issues. The poor guy's 83years old and with Parkinsons I really dont think he knows much of what is going on the last few years, even the whole Priest and sexual abuse scandal Overall he has led an intresting life. Some parts of me are glad he received this award, others are not too happy about it. Here's an intresting brief history of him http://www.fact-index.com/p/po/pope_john_paul_ii.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #15 June 4, 2004 Quote>Convictions - get some. Get all you want. Just don't shove them down anyone else's throat. So you stand for no group or individual shoving their convictions down anyone else's throat? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #16 June 4, 2004 >So you stand for no group or individual shoving their convictions > down anyone else's throat? ?? How can you 'stand for' a negative? I don't stand for not burning my neighbor's houses down, either. Just something I wouldn't do because it's wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #17 June 4, 2004 QuoteSometimes, when a man is about to die, you do something nice to recognize some of the good things he may have done even while ignoring some really stupid things he may have done or said agaisnt you personally. Is President Bush about to die? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #18 June 4, 2004 "Is President Bush about to die?" Be still, my beating heart... Ummm, what was the Pope's stance on the liberation of Iraq?-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #19 June 4, 2004 not by a long shot i hope...but, we could always get a recount!!"Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #20 June 4, 2004 QuoteTHE CATHOLIC VOTE What he said... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #21 June 4, 2004 Bullshit? The appropriate description is "Bush-it"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #22 June 4, 2004 Quotehmmm - could be because he believes in not killing unborn babies - just a thought. I wouldn't dispute that; or that there are good reasons for him to get it; my comment was more directed towards the timing."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #23 June 4, 2004 Though I believe it is well past time for the Pope to retire and he's made some mistakes as of late, he has been a good Pope and has done some good things. He's about to croak - let GWB do something nice for him. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #24 June 4, 2004 QuoteThough I believe it is well past time for the Pope to retire and he's made some mistakes as of late, he has been a good Pope and has done some good things. He's about to croak - let GWB do something nice for him. Popes don't retire. They serve until they're taken out of the Vatican feet first... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #25 June 4, 2004 They certainly -can- step down if they -want- to.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
