nbblood 0 #1 June 2, 2004 Here's another way we are making it convenient for parents to avoid being parents. Bottom line, it's a card the parents can get for the child so they don't have to accompany the child to R Rated films at the theater. I can't believe we make it so easy for parents to avoid responsibility. Why don't we make cards that allow fourteen year olds to purchase tobacco and alcohol while we're at it? Some proponents say "my child is mature for his/her age." I say "the parents are immature for their age" if they really believe that. I'm not saying that kids need to be shielded, but appropriate supervision and explanation for some topics helps mold the minds of kids. Why do parents shirk this responsibility? Blues, NathanBlues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #2 June 2, 2004 Quote Why don't we make cards that allow fourteen year olds to purchase tobacco and alcohol while we're at it? perhaps we should, and leave such decisions up to the parents thereby giving them BACK the responsibility for making decisions about right and wrong for themselves and their family. the governments job is not to protect you from yourself, or to raise your children for you....if you take the time to teach your kids about life and right (your version as they are your children) then you dont have to worry about what they see at the movies or on television..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #3 June 2, 2004 I don't think I'm arguing the point you're trying to make. I think if a parent buys and supplies alcohol to their own kids because they think it's a good way to teach, say....responsibility, ok, maybe they've got a plan, I can live with that. But this is taking the decision-making and discretion away from the parent and giving it to the kid......bad move. I feel this is the lazy parent's way out of another responsibility. I mean, really, they're not deciding their kids are ready to view, understand, and process all R-rated content. They're deciding they don't want to have to take the time to monitor. I think the ratings should and do apply guidelines. If the parents choose to allow the children to view specific or all restricted material, I have no problem with that. But they should at least be involved in the process instead of handwashing responsibility away, which is what is happening here. Blues, NathanBlues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #4 June 2, 2004 It would depend on how the parent uses the card. For example: Parent goes to see the movie. Parent approves movie for kid. Parent gives card to kid, drops kid off at the start of movie, and picks them up after. Kid returns card to parent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #5 June 2, 2004 i agree with you up, but some parents NEED to be told. Unfortunately i get to see on a daily basis (i work with 10/11 year olds and 13/14 year olds in school) the results of neglectful, irresponsible parenting - kids that are destructive, disrespectful to teachers and classmates, disengaged, violent and aggressive and generally disinterested - and yes, some of those are the 10 year olds. You can see them acting out scenes from movies that they shouldn't be allowed to watch until they are 18 (at least that's the law here, 18 rated films is our NC-17 i guess). You are right - we shouldn't need things like this - but it's not about giving BACK to the parents the decision making process - they have that already, and for some, that is the reason some legislation is needed, to ensure they are making positive decisions based on their childrens welfare, not just having so little interest in their childs development that they can put them infront of a television set for 6 hours a day, allowing them to do and watch whatever the child wants, and not caring if they go to school or not. You brought a child into the world, care for it, BUT when you don't (and a lot don't) i would far rather see government step in than have that child run rampant, have the parents held accountable, and get the child the care it needs. Edited for tipoz "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #6 June 2, 2004 QuoteIt would depend on how the parent uses the card. For example: Parent goes to see the movie. Parent approves movie for kid. Parent gives card to kid, drops kid off at the start of movie, and picks them up after. Kid returns card to parent. Agreed.. I wouldn't just let my daughter have the card so she could see whatever she wanted. I would keep the card myself and if I decided the movie was okay for her to see then I would give it to her for that movie. Her ninth grade English class took a field trip to see Troy. The teachers went to see the movie beforehand to make sure it was okay and I then gave my daughter permission to see it based on their opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #7 June 3, 2004 QuoteFor example: Parent goes to see the movie. Parent approves movie for kid. Parent gives card to kid, drops kid off at the start of movie, and picks them up after. Kid returns card to parent. In this case, I don't have a problem with it. However, let's be realistic, this is NOT how these cards are going to be used. This will be the exception and not the rule. Most parents will get the card and never worry about it again. Blues, NathanBlues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
