British Muslims are 'cleaning house'

[Skyrad 0]

I often hear from right wing types that Muslims somehow condone terrorism by their silence. Its simply not true, unfortunately we rarely hear in the media about what Muslims are doing to stop the terrorists. So it was nice to see this article..

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1057340,00.html

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Anyway, we don't get a lot of coverage in the US about things like this either. Wish there was more.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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For some reason the Times is pissy about people who aren't in the UK reading their papers on line. I set up a password a while back for people to use - username is "Dropzonedotcom" password is "jump". No one ever told me if it worked or not.

This is the article referenced:

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Britain

March 31, 2004

Muslim leaders urge imams to keep watch for deadly fanatics
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

BRITAIN’S leading Muslim organisation is today writing to every mosque in the country asking imams and other community leaders to be on the lookout for possible terrorists in their midst.



The Muslim Council of Britain wants Muslims to inform police if they have grounds to suspect illegal activity in their mosques or communities.

The appeal to the country’s two million-plus adherents of Islam is an attempt to project an image of Islam as antiviolence and of Muslims as law-abiding British citizens, as the great majority are.

There is concern at the growing use of the term “Islamic terrorist”, especially since the Madrid bombings.

Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the council, said: “There is a letter going to mosques across the country bringing to their attention the concern that has been expressed of an immediate attack taking place in the UK.

“It is important that we exercise vigilance in terms of fulfilling our duty. If there is anything we become aware of, it is our duty to ensure that this is reported immediately to the police. We will not tolerate terrorism.”

The letter was planned before yesterday’s arrests but has been rewritten to take the latest developments into account.

Sent to the imams, chairmen and secretaries of more than 1,000 mosques, the letter points out that, according to the Koran, the murder of one individual is “tantamount to murdering entire humanity”. It says: “Islam categorically forbids violence and killing of innocents, let alone indulging in violence which can cause death and mayhem.”

The Muslim Council is urging imams to provide the “correct Islamic guidance” to their communities, “especially to our youth, as to their obligation to maintain the peace and security of our country”. It calls for the “utmost vigilance” against “mischievous or criminal elements” attempting to infiltrate the community.

The council calls for close liaison with the local police and urges the “fullest co-operation” to help the police to deal with any terrorist threat.

The plea to Britain’s Muslims is part of a long-term plan to help the Muslim community to cope in a climate of increasing Islamophobia.

Further details of the plan are expected to be announced this evening at the Muslim News Awards for Excellence, in London. Mr Sacranie said a meeting will be called of all the Muslim leadership in the country to consider what action may be taken to promote the message that Islam has “nothing to do with terrorism” and “condemns violence”.

Other leading Muslims issued a warning yesterday that the police raids could provoke a backlash from the community. Ahmed Versi, editor of The Muslim News, said: “The police have to be more sensitive to make sure they have proper evidence before they detain anyone. Of course we are not against targeting terrorists.”

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That's a nice start. First the arrest of one big name suspect and now this. The Brits are our allies - it's shame that just because they are allied with the US that the US haters then call them names like "cronies" and "lapdogs".

It takes more bravery to side with us nowadays.

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I'm glad to hear this. Hopefully this isn't just a P.R. move meant to make up for some of the apathy in the past. When the next terror attack occurs in the U.K., muslims will die also.

[Skyrad 0]

No its not just a PR stunt, a few weeks ago inLUton five thousand Muslims marched against 'Islamic' Terrorism. Bloody hard to find anywhere that reported it though.

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From James Dunnigan's Strategy Page:

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May 3, 2004: European countries have been shocked to realize that many of the foreign born Islamic clergy (imams) are preaching hatred for the West and encouraging the murder of infidels (non-Moslems). Many of the imams also openly praise al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations, and urge local Moslems to contribute money, recruits and support. These sermons are usually conducted in Arabic, and until recently, local police and anti-terrorism organizations were largely unaware of it. When such sermons were discovered, usually through the interrogation of terrorism activists, they were often dismissed as an isolated event. But now that many European countries have sent Arab speaking operatives into most of the mosques in their territory, they have found the racist and hate-filled sermons quite common. Part of the reason is that most of the Moslem clergy is imported from Moslem countries, and in those countries, Saudi Arabia has long subsidized seminaries as long as the conservative Wahabi form of Islam is favored. Wahabism favors an Islam that conquers the world, converting everyone to Islam, and killing those who resist.

European nations are starting to export these extremist Wahabi preachers, but their legal systems confer considerable rights of appeal on the preachers, enabling them to resist deportation, or any restraint on their hate speech.
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Saw an episode of "MI-5" (aka Spooks) last year in which Alexander Siddig (used to be Siddig El-Fadil, but changed his screen name about ten years ago because Yanks couldn't pronounce his name - we just call him "Sid" anyway ) played a Moslem working undercover to expose RIFW bombers.

It was a very good episode, and the dialogue discussed these very issues.

From IMDB:

"...the second episode of the second season, in which the plot dealt with Muslim suicide bombers, was the most complained about television broadcast in the UK of 2003."

Sid was also in "Vertical Limit" (2000). Although it wasn't a very good picture, Sid had a really good supporting role.

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