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The WAR is about OIL



Guns are evil!

Capitalism is mean to poor people!

Humans are killing the Earth!

SUVs killed the dinosaurs!


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The WAR is about OIL



Guns are evil!

Capitalism is mean to poor people!

Humans are killing the Earth!

SUVs killed the dinosaurs!


any other bits of joy and wisdom you want to share with us?



Guns are not evil, they are just a tool. That must be regulated by the way just in case evil people get hold of one of them.
Capitalism IS mean to poor people. you see, in order for some people to be rich, there has to be poor people. If everyone can afford a Porsche, that brand will not be cool anymore.
Humans ARE killing the earth. That hole in the ozone layer daesn´t mean anuthing good.
I don´t know what a SUV is.

By the way, this war IS about oil. And power, and ego, and a lot of thing, bur not about freedom or anything of the sort.

If i come across any other FACTS I will share them with you. :P

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Guns are not evil, they are just a tool



True so far.

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That must be regulated by the way just in case evil people get hold of one of them.



Nope....The Second Amendment here in the US makes it quite clear that they should not be. And if you outlawed guns...Crime will not go away.
Bad people will do bad things without guns.

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Capitalism IS mean to poor people. you see, in order for some people to be rich, there has to be poor people. If everyone can afford a Porsche, that brand will not be cool anymore.



But the cool thing about Capitalism is that if you are poor and work hard you can have a Porsche...Unlike many other economic plans where everyone only gets a VW Bug. Or other Government plans where you can only have the Porshe if you were born into Royalty.

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Humans ARE killing the earth. That hole in the ozone layer daesn´t mean anuthing good.



I'd agree
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Guns are not evil, they are just a tool



True so far.

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That must be regulated by the way just in case evil people get hold of one of them.



Nope....The Second Amendment here in the US makes it quite clear that they should not be. And if you outlawed guns...Crime will not go away.
Bad people will do bad things without guns.

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I think a more accurate statement would be that Bad people would be the only ones other then the Police with guns and the good law abiding people would be at their mercy. That would be the result of outlawing guns. Only the outlaws would have them.

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Just a bit of semantics for you NRA folks-- regulating does not mean outlawing. It means REGULATING. Don't get me wrong, I'd be all for outlawing numerous types of guns (not handguns and hunting rifles), but regulation alone would help.

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There wasn't any talk about regulating guns. Anyone that is a convicted felon should not be legally allowed to have a gun. The problem is that there is a black market out there that doesn't care who the buyer is as long as the money is good. If there is a demand then there will always be someone to supply the goods. True of illegal guns and anything else. The more illegal it is the higher the price the higher the profits. Someone will always be there that will think the risk is worth the reward.

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Just a bit of semantics for you NRA folks-- regulating does not mean outlawing. It means REGULATING



And according to the US CONSTITUTION, you should not even regulate them....

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Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


From dictonary.com:
Infringed:
To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent.
Obsolete. To defeat; invalidate.

v. intr.
To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life.

And Regulating:
To control or direct according to rule, principle, or law.
To adjust to a particular specification or requirement: regulate temperature.
To adjust (a mechanism) for accurate and proper functioning.
To put or maintain in order: regulate one's eating habits.



So to REGULATE would be to INFRINGE.

And the Second Amendment to the Constitiution says they will not do that.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Which guns? Sorry Kelly but handguns and shot guns are the ones that people use to kill 99.99% of the people that are killed with Guns. I am assuming you where talking assualt rifles when you said
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Don't get me wrong, I'd be all for outlawing numerous types of guns (not handguns and hunting rifles



Very FEW people are killed with legally owned and registered guns. And by the way not a single gun has ever killed ANYONE. Maybe we should outlaw people since it is people that kill people not guns.

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Humans ARE killing the earth. That hole in the ozone layer daesn´t mean anuthing good....

Most problems are the result of over populating this planet. The day is coming when clean WATER will cost more than oil. Must the human race disappear before life gets clean air and water?

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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Nope....The Second Amendment here in the US makes it quite clear that they should not be. And if you outlawed guns...Crime will not go away.
Bad people will do bad things without guns.



Psst... He doesn't live in the US.

Anyway, just because the constitution says you guys shouldn't regulate guns doesn't have any bearing on whether regulating guns is right or wrong.

Edited for ballistic punctuation.
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Cool, a glip/pointless statement about oil just turned into the same old gun thread.

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Psst... He doesn't live in the US.



Psst...thats why I wrote:
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Nope....The Second Amendment here in the US makes it quite clear that they should not be.



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Anyway, just because the constitution says you guys shouldn't regulate guns doesn't have any bearing on whether regulating guns is right or wrong.



Nope, but guns have little to do with violence either..They don't MAKE people violent.

They are a tool just like a wrench or socket set.

But the Constituition saying what it says DOES have bearing on weither banning or regulating guns is LEGAL in the US..And its not.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Cool, a glip/pointless statement about oil just turned into the same old gun thread



Can you think of a better way for it to go...
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Cool, a glip/pointless statement about oil just turned into the same old gun thread



Can you think of a better way for it to go...



1 - discussions about 4-way
2 - boobs
3 - discussions about 4-way
4 - discussions about 8-way
5 - tunnel stuff
6 - climbing
7 - misused statistics

did I mention 4-way?

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1 - discussions about 4-way
2 - boobs
3 - discussions about 4-way
4 - discussions about 8-way
5 - tunnel stuff
6 - climbing
7 - misused statistics

did I mention 4-way?



#1,3,4,5. RW forum
#2,6. Bonfire
#7. Any forum.

For this Forum...this fits.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Just a bit of semantics for you NRA folks-- regulating does not mean outlawing. It means REGULATING



And according to the US CONSTITUTION, you should not even regulate them....

***Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.




Correct! It is the militia that should be well regulated.

Tell us again who constitutes the militia.
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Just a bit of semantics for you NRA folks-- regulating does not mean outlawing. It means REGULATING



And according to the US CONSTITUTION, you should not even regulate them....

***Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.




Correct! It is the militia that should be well regulated.

Tell us again who constitutes the militia.



Agreed, we must regulate who gets guns. Anyone with a criminal record, history of violence, or history of mental illness should be "regulated" from owning a gun.

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Tell us again who constitutes the militia.



I do, you might.

The milita is whoever will take up arms for the best of the group...Notice that may not be the government...Just like we kicked Ol' George out years ago.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Tell us again who constitutes the militia.



I do, you might.

The milita is whoever will take up arms for the best of the group...Notice that may not be the government...Just like we kicked Ol' George out years ago.



I trust that you are indeed "well regulated".

Those Georges cause nothing but trouble.
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