storm1977 0 #1 May 19, 2004 What is wrong with this? No USA Cameras or Tape recorders allowed at the US soldiers Court Marshel Hearings tomorrow, However, Al Jazera is allowed to run a live broadcast from the court room. I am a strong supporter of this administrations, but this is a stupid idea and I can only guess it came from the top. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #2 May 19, 2004 QuoteWhat is wrong with this? No USA Cameras or Tape recorders allowed at the US soldiers Court Marshel Hearings tomorrow, However, Al Jazera is allowed to run a live broadcast from the court room. I am a strong supporter of this administrations, but this is a stupid idea and I can only guess it came from the top. Chris You're a strong supporter of an administration who's all too happy to cover their own asses and those of the military brass by holding quick court martials for a few kids and offering them as penance to the arab media. That's great, when are people gonna realize that the reason they do bad and stupid things is because they (the administration) are bad and stupid? Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #3 May 19, 2004 QuoteYou're a strong supporter of an administration who's all too happy to cover their own asses and those of the military brass by holding quick court martials for a few kids and offering them as penance to the arab media. That's great, when are people gonna realize that the reason they do bad and stupid things is because they (the administration) are bad and stupid? Or, the only real-time information to come from it initially is from an Arabic source. No US spin. Do you think it won't be reported here? It's "cameras and tape recorders." -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #4 May 19, 2004 QuoteYou're a strong supporter of an administration who's all too happy to cover their own asses Show me a politician who is not out to cover his ass and I will show you the time machine I just built in my basement!!! Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflygoddess 0 #5 May 19, 2004 QuoteThat's great, when are people gonna realize that the reason they do bad and stupid things is because they (the administration) are bad and stupid? Maybe, but what would it be like had Al Gore won? Oh, well for one thing he wouldn't have done anything to change security after 9/11 nor would he have sent in retaliation for it, and woul def not have gone into Iraq to search for wepons of mass destruction nor chemical warfare. So I would guess that right now you and many others myself and my children included would have anthrax or have already passed away from anthrax.... so stupid and not doing things right, maybe, but better than the alternitive choices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #6 May 19, 2004 Quote Or, the only real-time information to come from it initially is from an Arabic source. No US spin. Do you think it won't be reported here? It's "cameras and tape recorders." And why shouldn't American audiences be privy to the real time coverage of a hearing in our military paid for by our tax dollars, on actions which supposedly broke our laws? So, no USA cameras... So what does this mean, the American public gets clips from Al Jazeera and clips disseminated by the Pentagon, neither of which will be the full story. Why not? Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 May 19, 2004 QuoteAnd why shouldn't American audiences be privy to the real time coverage of a hearing in our military paid for by our tax dollars, on actions which supposedly broke our laws? So, no USA cameras... So what does this mean, the American public gets clips from Al Jazeera and clips disseminated by the Pentagon, neither of which will be the full story. Why not? Hardly, CNN, Fox, NBC, and the gang all have feeds of Al Jazeera in their own right.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #8 May 19, 2004 Quote Maybe, but what would it be like had Al Gore won? Oh, well for one thing he wouldn't have done anything to change security after 9/11 nor would he have sent in retaliation for it, and woul def not have gone into Iraq to search for wepons of mass destruction nor chemical warfare. So I would guess that right now you and many others myself and my children included would have anthrax or have already passed away from anthrax.... so stupid and not doing things right, maybe, but better than the alternitive choices. This argument is silly, that's like me saying to someone who doesn't like Clinton: Well imagine if George HW Bush had won. It would have been another great depression because there's no way he would have responded to the economy the way Clinton did. He would have never followed the advice of Greenspan and we wouldn't have had the money to pay the soldiers or build the weapons to bomb Iraq but it wouldn't matter anyway because we'd just be owned by Japan! See, silly. Just like what you said. Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #9 May 19, 2004 >Maybe, but what would it be like had Al Gore won? -He would have been in Iraq sooner; he was one of the biggest hawks in the Clinton administration. -He would have gotten UN approval before going in. He's more into the boring diplomacy stuff than Bush. (and more boring period.) -9/11 and the ensuing Afghanistan invasion wouldn't have been much different. No president is going to let anyone get away with attacking the US, no matter which side of the aisle they are on. >So I would guess that right now you and many others myself and my >children included would have anthrax or have already passed away >from anthrax.... Uh, you realize we had an anthrax attack while BUSH was in office, and that people died from that, right? And that it came from cultures out of a US military research center, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #10 May 19, 2004 QuoteWell imagine if George HW Bush had won. It would have been another great depression because there's no way he would have responded to the economy the way Clinton did. He would have never followed the advice of Greenspan and we wouldn't have had the money to pay the soldiers or build the weapons to bomb Iraq but it wouldn't matter anyway because we'd just be owned by Japan! See, silly. Just like what you said. If you look at economic history a little closer, the two single greatest quarters of growth throughout the 1990s were the last two quarters of GHW Bush's administration. Those quarters were the result of Greenspan and the administration finally seeing eye-to-eye on beginning to lower interest rates (BTW, GW Bush has just re-nominated Greenspan). Despite that, there was no secret that GHW Bush and Greenspan weren't "buddies". Meanwhile, as the big burst we all heard in 2000 indicated, the 90s ended up being a result of higher-taxes, and a bubble economy too focused on "services" sectors and the beginning of exporting of manufacturing on an almost mass scale. It was during that time that the PacRim ecomomies slumped into their own recession.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #11 May 19, 2004 Quote-He would have been in Iraq sooner; he was one of the biggest hawks in the Clinton administration. -He would have gotten UN approval before going in. He's more into the boring diplomacy stuff than Bush. (and more boring period.) Do you really think the Germans and French would have ever agreed? -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #12 May 19, 2004 HOW DID THIS THREAD GET HIjacked right under my nose?? I thought the new aiport screeners would have stopped this. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #13 May 19, 2004 >Do you really think the Germans and French would have ever agreed? Towards the end they DID agree to a resolution authorizing force if X, Y and Z were not done by a certain date (within a few months.) But by that time we were sick of waiting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 May 19, 2004 QuoteHOW DID THIS THREAD GET HIjacked right under my nose?? I thought the new aiport screeners would have stopped this. Chris Whoops! Anyway, I agree, any/all media should be allowed to cover the court martial.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #15 May 19, 2004 Hmm, well, apparently you totally missed the point of what I typed... or the point I made of it being silly. The funny thing is that my point was that if I had badmouthed George HW like that then I'd be wrong. But you just have to go on about how good he actually was. But I wasn't really saying anything about the man, just that the type of argument is silly, because, mainly, nobody knows what things would be like if someone different were in office because they're not! Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 May 19, 2004 I misread your first line. Sorry dude... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #17 May 19, 2004 The AP article on Fox's web-site indicates that no recording or video devices of any kind will be allowed and that there will be over 30 news organizations there.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #18 May 19, 2004 Quote and woul def not have gone into Iraq to search for wepons of mass destruction nor chemical warfare. So I would guess that right now you and many others myself and my children included would have anthrax or have already passed away from anthrax.... so stupid and not doing things right, maybe, but better than the alternitive choices. yeah, good thing we went in to iraq to take away their anthrax. if bush hadn't of found all those anthrax vials there, you're right, we would be dead of anthrax. oh thats right, we haven't found any anthrax or really any chemical weapon there. and it doesn't look like we are about to either. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #19 May 19, 2004 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's great, when are people gonna realize that the reason they do bad and stupid things is because they (the administration) are bad and stupid? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe, but what would it be like had Al Gore won? Oh, well for one thing he wouldn't have done anything to change security after 9/11 nor would he have sent in retaliation for it, and woul def not have gone into Iraq to search for wepons of mass destruction nor chemical warfare. So I would guess that right now you and many others myself and my children included would have anthrax or have already passed away from anthrax.... so stupid and not doing things right, maybe, but better than the alternitive choices. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! My feelings exactly MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #20 May 19, 2004 Could you please give me one single example that supports your theories about what Gore would have done? Or are you just making it up as you go along? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 May 19, 2004 QuoteShow me a politician who is not out to cover his ass and I will show you the time machine I just built in my basement!!! Too late, my patent is PENDING. PENDING!!! ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #22 May 19, 2004 Quoteyeah, good thing we went in to iraq to take away their anthrax. if bush hadn't of found all those anthrax vials there, you're right, we would be dead of anthrax. oh thats right, we haven't found any anthrax or really any chemical weapon there. and it doesn't look like we are about to either. Ah, Sarin and Mustard gas are Chemical weapons."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #23 May 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteThat's great, when are people gonna realize that the reason they do bad and stupid things is because they (the administration) are bad and stupid? Maybe, but what would it be like had Al Gore won? Oh, well for one thing he wouldn't have done anything to change security after 9/11 nor would he have sent in retaliation for it, and woul def not have gone into Iraq to search for wepons of mass destruction nor chemical warfare. So I would guess that right now you and many others myself and my children included would have anthrax or have already passed away from anthrax.... so stupid and not doing things right, maybe, but better than the alternitive choices. What an unbelievably ignorant statement. You have no clue what Gore would have done. Let's face it, he couldn't have managed things any worse than Bush.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 May 19, 2004 QuoteYou have no clue what Gore would have done. Let's face it, he couldn't have managed things any worse than Bush. These two statements seem to contradict each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #25 May 19, 2004 Quote You're a strong supporter of an administration who's all too happy to cover their own asses and those of the military brass by holding quick court martials for a few kids and offering them as penance to the arab media. That's great, when are people gonna realize that the reason they do bad and stupid things is because they (the administration) are bad and stupid? Well said!!! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites