quade 4 #1 May 17, 2004 Ok, so, I'm watching Crossfire and the kicker is some letters in responce to Novak doing a tandem with the GK's. Here's one of the letters: "Mr. Novak, I am a retired U.S. Air Force Master Sgt. and a red/white/blue-blooded American Democrat. As much as as you irratate me on Crossfire, I must tell you I have gained respect for you. I would never think of jumping" -- Billy J. Rowe Sr., Slayersville, KY Ok, seriously, respect Novak just for doing a tandem? Y'all's got to be kiddin'!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 May 17, 2004 The writer was a whuffo though...so...hey...so few people, relative to population even go on a tandem. Good job Bob! So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #3 May 17, 2004 He drives a 'vette too. Hmmm. 41 jumps on his birthday a lot, Novak is getting in to it. Q, you and BillDammit may have an endless supply of petard-foisting material coming your way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 May 17, 2004 Hey, I respect 41 for a lot of things -- skydiving is fun, but I can't really say he's performed up to spec on anything but his first jump during WWII. But at least 41 did an AFF/Demo. Novak just went along for the ride. Reward for leaking names no doubt. (simmer down now . . . that's just a joke)quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #5 May 17, 2004 I don't simmer much anymore, bad for the digestion. I would like to see Novak in the Bombshelter with you and vonNovak solving the world's problems. Purely as a spectator, though. And maybe at a safe distance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jessefs 0 #6 May 17, 2004 At first I thought this was Billvon's dad.......until I looked up who it was . <* Spread the Love! *> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #7 May 18, 2004 QuoteHe drives a 'vette too. Hmmm. 41 jumps on his birthday a lot, Novak is getting in to it. Q, you and BillDammit may have an endless supply of petard-foisting material coming your way! "A Lot" apparently means something different to you than it means to me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #8 May 18, 2004 QuoteOk, so, I'm watching Crossfire and the kicker is some letters in responce to Novak doing a tandem with the GK's. Here's one of the letters: "Mr. Novak, I am a retired U.S. Air Force Master Sgt. and a red/white/blue-blooded American Democrat. As much as as you irratate me on Crossfire, I must tell you I have gained respect for you. I would never think of jumping" -- Billy J. Rowe Sr., Slayersville, KY Ok, seriously, respect Novak just for doing a tandem? Y'all's got to be kiddin'! Hey, man, it was a DEMOCRAT whose esteem was so easily purchased. Go bitch to them. Or is that somehow also the Republicans' fault? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 May 18, 2004 Bob Novak is cool. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 May 18, 2004 Quote Bob Novak is cool. Bob Novak is a tool. Specifically of Karl Rove.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #11 May 18, 2004 Odd that he slammed Bush's steel tariff fiasco so eloquently a few months back... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 May 18, 2004 I'm not saying he -can't- have a mind of his own, only that he get's played like a fiddle.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boudy 0 #13 May 19, 2004 QuoteI'm not saying he -can't- have a mind of his own, only that he get's played like a fiddle. Shortly before the Iraq war started, the most outspoken War hawks apparently found his fiddle out of tune. Novak's criticism of the coming war was labeled "unpatriotic" and a former Bush insider claimed his dissent revealed evidence of his hatred for Bush, the Republican party, and even the country! The following article by our newest celebrity skydiver (or whatever) is a little long to post but the online link expired. When the shooting starts March 24, 2003 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST On the day after President Bush delivered his ultimatum, Patrick J. Buchanan stopped debating the war. The former presidential candidate and the longtime adversary of the Bushes wrote that 'patriotism commands that when American soldiers face death in the battle, the American people unite behind them.'' On that very day, the country's foremost conservative publication listed Buchanan among ''leading figures in the anti-war movement [who] call themselves 'conservatives' '' but hate their country and want it to lose the war. To my astonishment, I was among them. David Frum, a Washington journalist and White House speechwriter early in this Bush administration, put Buchanan and me on the top of the dishonor roll in ''Unpatriotic Conservatives: A War Against America,'' the cover story in the current edition of National Review. We are accused of advocating ''a fearful policy of ignoring threats and appeasing enemies.'' Concluding, he writes of us: ''[T]hey are thinking about defeat, and wishing for it, and they will take pleasure if it should happen. They began by hating the neo-conservatives. They came to hate their party and this president. They have finished by hating their country.'' That demonstrably is not true of Pat Buchanan, and it is certainly not true of me. Anybody who makes a living by dispensing strong comment should be inured to attack, even when the accusations are totally false. During the nearly 40 years that I have been privileged to write this column, I have not subjected readers to my personal controversies. Now, however, I feel constrained to identify myself as a Korean War-vintage Army officer (non-combat) who has always supported our troops and prayed for their success during many wars. This war is no exception. Dealing with statements about me even so calumnious as Frum's might seem petty in time of war. But broader issues are at stake. Frum represents a body of conservative opinion that wants to delegitimize criticism from the right of policy that has led to war against Iraq. Anti-war activity over the years has come mostly from the left. Those were not conservatives who shut down Times Square on Thursday. Senate Democratic Leader Thomas Daschle went over the line last Monday when he blamed potential American deaths on Bush's failed diplomacy, but he had regrouped by week's end to promise support of ''our troops and our commander-in-chief.'' Like Buchanan, Daschle ended up following the old American custom of supporting the war once the shooting starts. Frum, on the other hand, chose that moment to begin shooting at ''paleo-conservatives.'' He brackets me with his selected paleos--people whom I have never met or read and whose anti-Semitic and white supremacist views I abhor. Frum cannot find any such statements ever uttered by me. Nor can he find anything I ever have said to indicate hatred for George W. Bush, much less my country. His article cites four quotations from my columns, one reporting that congressional sources predicted the CIA would be unable to find Osama bin Laden, and the other three criticizing an overly close identification of U.S. policy with Israel (especially the Ariel Sharon government). Implicitly, that is unacceptable criticism from a conservative. ''[E]ven Robert Taft and Charles Lindbergh ceased accommodating Axis aggression after Pearl Harbor,'' Frum writes. The implication: After 9/11, conservatives should have refrained from debating the Iraq strategy or questioning Israeli policy. Nevertheless, Frum's mention of Lindbergh recalls the Lone Eagle's unhappy experience. Gulled by Hitler into regarding the Nazi thugs as saviors of Western civilization, Lindbergh was goaded by Franklin D. Roosevelt into resigning his colonel's commission in the Army Air Corps Reserve. Lindbergh sought active duty after Pearl Harbor but was blocked by a vindictive President Roosevelt. He managed to fly secret combat missions in the Pacific, however illegally, as a civilian. A newly naturalized American, Frum might ponder how Lindbergh handled himself once the shooting started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites