Kennedy 0 #1 May 13, 2004 Cigarettes, Guns, Fast Food, Alcohol.... What's next, porn? computer games? TV? http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2142076,00.html QuoteAlcohol lawsuits target ads By Steve Raabe Denver Post Staff Writer A series of lawsuits alleging that alcohol companies deliberately market to minors could one day become a national legal landmark - but not unless a "smoking gun" is found to incriminate the companies, legal experts said. The alcohol marketing suits were filed in Colorado; Washington, D.C.; and North Carolina against Bacardi, Heineken, Mike's Hard Lemonade Co. and a half-dozen other beverage companies, including Golden-based Adolph Coors Co. and its Zima unit. Legal experts said similarities exist between the alcohol-marketing cases and the national tobacco litigation of the 1990s that culminated with a settlement payment by tobacco companies of more than $246 billion. But the alcohol lawsuits as yet appear to lack the proof of dishonesty and deceptiveness that characterized accusations against cigarette makers. (cont.)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 May 13, 2004 QuoteWhat's next, porn? computer games? TV? Skydiving. It's marketed to make kids think it's cool, which makes them do all kinds of silly things. Eventually they end up as delinquent bums living on DZ's. It's horrible, I tell you, and it must be stopped.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 May 13, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhat's next, porn? computer games? TV? Skydiving. It's marketed to make kids think it's cool, which makes them do all kinds of silly things. Eventually they end up as delinquent bums living on DZ's. It's horrible, I tell you, and it must be stopped. It's OK if you're over 50.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 May 13, 2004 QuoteIt's OK if you're over 50. You're scarry.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elpeludo 0 #5 May 13, 2004 WOW!.... I see it this way ...get the right plumbing together. Plenty of grain and the best catalyst available ...don't forget some sugar! once you get started: just tell your nearest neighbor, that smell must be from someone's septic tank and we are all down wind! Once ya' get your mash done this mean's ....fire up the still!! """"" good drippin's, make good lickin's. If ya' know what ya' doing, alway's check top and bottoms of mash and use a worthy hydrometer!...during and after ya' pull your mash through your still. THIS AIN'T FOR THE lil' one's to play with O.K.? Then again, my favorte pub is up the street from me. KEEP AMERICA FREE>>>VOTE!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #6 May 13, 2004 Bah! Another frivolous lawsuit! If they sue ANY tequila manufacturer, TheAnvil is declaring war! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 May 13, 2004 We can thank John Ashcroft for the latest revival of this trend to protect us from ourselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #8 May 13, 2004 Really? Now how would you make that connection, exactly? This has GOTTA be good.... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #9 May 13, 2004 QuoteReally? Now how would you make that connection, exactly? This has GOTTA be good.... The main targets of his prosecutorial power have been mainly those that conflict with his morals. Pornography, paraphenalia, old people importing prescription drugs. He is a self-admitted christian conservative and has stated that his primary purpose is to end the "moral decay" of society. Here's some reading material for you. http://www.failureisimpossible.com/needtoknow/ashcroft.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #10 May 13, 2004 QuoteSkydiving. It's marketed to make kids think it's cool, which makes them do all kinds of silly things. Eventually they end up as delinquent bums living on DZ's. It's horrible, I tell you, and it must be stopped. And before you know it, many of these very same young people will start hanging around a certain bridge in a certain part of the country instead of hanging out at the various DZs. It's evil I tell you. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #11 May 13, 2004 I hope it happens........back to plying the old family trade......Rum running!!!!!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #12 May 13, 2004 You use 'self-admitted Christian conservative' like it's a bad thing - it isn't. You failed to relay to us how Mr. Ashcroft is to blame for the lawsuits in CO. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 May 13, 2004 QuoteYou use 'self-admitted Christian conservative' like it's a bad thing - it isn't. It is when that moniker is used to shape public policy. QuoteYou failed to relay to us how Mr. Ashcroft is to blame for the lawsuits in CO. I didn't say that. I said he is responsible for the revival of the trend of lawsuits to which this belongs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 May 13, 2004 Next lawsuit? I recommend suing the various State Bars, the ABA and all Law Schools for the serious and detrimental health effects they cause. First, law schools deliberately market to minors and adults. Similarities exist between the law school marketing and the national tobacco litigation of the 1990s that culminated with a settlement payment by tobacco companies of more than $246 billion. Law school has been demonstravtively negative in its impact. First, 95 percent of all law school graduates are in financial ruin. With an average indebtedness of over $100,000, law school graduates suffer stress and trauma at much higher levels than do high school dropouts. Law schools also prove to be more unhealthy than other acticities. Vast quantities of law students suffer increased blood pressure, eye strain, and suffer a large weight gain. Sleep deprivation and stress-induced psychoses are prevalent. Finally, law school causes brain damage, which tends to alienate law school graduates from the rest of the general population. While many may argue that law students "assume the risk" of law school, graduates allege that law school brochures are "blatant false advertising." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 May 13, 2004 Quote[ QuoteYou failed to relay to us how Mr. Ashcroft is to blame for the lawsuits in CO. I didn't say that. I said he is responsible for the revival of the trend of lawsuits to which this belongs. You still have provided nothing to support this claim, esp when the Trial Lawyers Associations that tend to back this sort of litigation are streadfast supporters of the Democratic Party. Which party is more likely to promote legislation banning liability suits? Whether you support such lawsuits or not, it's pretty clear where the two parties stand. Having managed to win gun and tobacco cases (they had no right winning), it was natural to see fast food and other sins as potential scourges that could be removed from society. It's a simple progression that is happening independent of whichever party is running the DoJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #16 May 13, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou failed to relay to us how Mr. Ashcroft is to blame for the lawsuits in CO. I didn't say that. I said he is responsible for the revival of the trend of lawsuits to which this belongs. These lawsuits were happening against the gun industry during CLINTON'S administration. Ashcroft was not attorney general then. Janet "BabyGriller" Reno was. The "trend of lawsuits to which this belongs" is the irresponsible trend, not the moral trend. People suing people who were not the cause of their problems or damage done to them. Thank Clinton/Reno, not Bush/Ashcroft. Then thank the mayors of NYC, New Orleans, Chicago, Boston, et al, for perpetuating this farce. It started as a witch hunt against guns and anyone connected with them; it continues next against things you like. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #17 May 13, 2004 Look. It's all about money. Imagine a global settlement of 40 billion dollars. Lawyers will take 30 percent of that. Tell me what drives this? They keep trying, and hit one industry after another until they find one that will stick. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #18 May 13, 2004 QuoteLook. It's all about money. Imagine a global settlement of 40 billion dollars. Lawyers will take 30 percent of that. Tell me what drives this? They keep trying, and hit one industry after another until they find one that will stick. Comparatively, there is very little money in the firearms industry. That is not what drives the lawsuits against it. What drives the lawsuits against the gun industry is the ideology that guns are bad and must be eradicated; and if that can't be done legislatively, extra-legislative efforts to bankrupt and eradicate it are justified. It's a sick, unethical endeavor, particularly because the plaintiffs are clearly NOT bringing suit with the goal of winning -- just the goal of costing a mountain of money for legal defense. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #19 May 13, 2004 QuoteHaving managed to win gun and tobacco cases (they had no right winning).... Actually, none of the lawsuits against firearms manufacturers and distributors have been successful on appeal. Each and every one of them that has been finally decided has gone in favor of the industry. The problem is that the lawsuits are not designed to win, they are designed to cost the industry millions in legal fees, and in that sense they have accomplished their goal without winning a case. (they continue to sue in hopes of driving the industry into bankruptcy, again without ever having to ever win a case)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 May 13, 2004 QuoteI said he is responsible for the revival of the trend of lawsuits to which this belongs. So which politician do you blame for the previous waves of such lawsuits, which preceded this "revival"? (I'm quite certain that you'll come up with some more Republicans...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
