TheAnvil 0 #26 May 13, 2004 Not the focus of my post at all, but.... Quote Facts? As in: "The deficit will be small and short lived" Not with SS and the looming grey dawn. That was either a lie or a statement by a very ignorant man. A combination of both I'd say. Quote "We know where they are" Intel is never accurate, as we've seen. Quote "Iraq can attack us in 45 minutes" Haven't heard that one. Quote "Nation building? Absolutely not!" Need the context of this one. Quote "We will create 2.3 million new jobs this year" (2003) Wishful thinking by whoever said this one.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #27 May 13, 2004 "Iraq can attack us in 45 minutes" ---------------------------------- Haven't heard that one. " British intel, I think, which now also appears to be inaccurate.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #28 May 13, 2004 Quote"Iraq can attack us in 45 minutes" ---------------------------------- Haven't heard that one. " British intel, I think, which now also appears to be inaccurate. Quoted by Bush in November 2002 Rose Garden speech.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #29 May 13, 2004 QuoteNot the focus of my post at all, but.... Quote Facts? As in: "The deficit will be small and short lived" Not with SS and the looming grey dawn. That was either a lie or a statement by a very ignorant man. A combination of both I'd say. State of the Union Address, January 2002, GWB Quote "We know where they are" Intel is never accurate, as we've seen. Quote "Iraq can attack us in 45 minutes" Haven't heard that one. Quote "Nation building? Absolutely not!" Need the context of this one. GWB in Presidential Debate, Oct 11 2000. Quote "We will create 2.3 million new jobs this year" (2003) Wishful thinking by whoever said this one. President's report to the nation on the economy, February 2003.Confession, I misquoted. He promised 2.6 million... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #30 May 13, 2004 Very cute Kallend. Do you REALLY think sKerry is capable of doing better? Let's see: deficit - nope. sKerry and his ilk desire a nationalized (socialized) health care program. All those who want such have NO credibility when talking about deficits. job creation - government jobs perhaps. According to sKerry corporations don't pay their 'fair share' of taxes. Hard to cut corporate profits via tax code revisions and create jobs. Iraq - do you REALLY want me to quote The Poodle's prior opinions on this issue yet again agreeing with the conservatives several times over? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #31 May 13, 2004 QuoteYes, and what it should tell you is that I care more about people telling the most objective truth they can than I do about possibly insulting someone who I don't believe made that attempt. Let's just say I disagree with you and leave it at that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #32 May 13, 2004 He provided what you were looking for. Is there a comment on the content? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #33 May 13, 2004 QuoteVery cute Kallend. Do you REALLY think sKerry is capable of doing better? Let's see: deficit - nope. sKerry and his ilk desire a nationalized (socialized) health care program. All those who want such have NO credibility when talking about deficits. job creation - government jobs perhaps. According to sKerry corporations don't pay their 'fair share' of taxes. Hard to cut corporate profits via tax code revisions and create jobs. Iraq - do you REALLY want me to quote The Poodle's prior opinions on this issue yet again agreeing with the conservatives several times over? So you KNOW FOR A FACT that Bush is a lying ignoramus, but because you suspect Kerry may be one too, you support Bush.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #34 May 13, 2004 I have trouble keeping up with your posts sometimes. Is there a special school where you can learn the current RNC propaganda vocabulary? The whole dims, sKerry, etc. terms that you are so adept at using. Do you copy that stuff from Ann coulter, or what? It's especially confusing when you use to accuse others of being partisan tools of a government party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #35 May 13, 2004 QuoteHe provided what you were looking for. Is there a comment on the content? Wendy W. No he didn't, as I was not looking for anything. Kallend spun off a tangent of my response to peacefuljeffrey, in which I enticed him to irk lefties vice offend BillVon and GravityGirl. The tangent he chose to spin was based upon my assertion that lefties hate to face facts. Vice address my point, which I still maintain, he picked a few random quotes from GWB that were incorrect or outright false to present. He gave me nothing that I asked for, as I asked for nothing and received something inane instead. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #36 May 13, 2004 LMFAO. Which one in particular are you having trouble grasping? Oh. I forgot. I make up most of this stuff. I think demoKKKlaner is my favorite, though I don't remember if I've used on here or not. The Poodle and sKerry are Boortz' creations - can't take credit for them, just plagiarize. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #37 May 13, 2004 >That was either a lie or a statement by a very ignorant man. A >combination of both I'd say. >Wishful thinking by whoever said this one. You have made a serious error of bashing etiquette! By failing to research the quote, you have accidentally based Bush instead of Kerry! The right-wing propaganda council will be VERY disappointed. You may even have to turn in your hat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #38 May 13, 2004 Oh, my hat was taken away long ago, but thanks for thinking of me. I've bashed Bush's second tax cut's structure, letting everyone's favorite Harvard expellee draft the education[sic] bill, the amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants plan, complained about no veto of ANY spending bill to date, called him the least evil of two bad choices, often questioned his Iraqi-centric foreign policy both pre and post-invasion, and done many other things to warrant my expulsion from that group. I just detest sKerry the Poodle even worse. With regards to the comment in question, recall the pining of the left with regards to the deficit. I seem to recall 'If Gore were in office and we hadn't cut taxes for the rich we wouldn't have a deficit now!' being a central theme of such pining. Bush's election did nothing to the age demographics of the nation and therefore did not affect the SS/grey dawn induced abyss of a deficit that is going to occur over the next two decades. I knew the quote was from GWB. And still state it was either a deception (ie. lie) or a remark made out of ignorance. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #39 May 13, 2004 QuoteBush's election did nothing to the age demographics of the nation and therefore did not affect the SS/grey dawn induced abyss of a deficit that is going to occur over the next two decades. Bush taking money out of the SS reserves to fund other programs (after he promised he wouldn't during his campaign) most definitely had an effect on the prospects of SS down the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #40 May 13, 2004 Relook at both your statement and the magnitudes of $$ involved and you'll see the reason for my smile. It is impossible to take $ out of SS as SS funds were made part of the general fund under LBJ - thank you demoKKKrats. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #41 May 13, 2004 QuoteRelook at both your statement and the magnitudes of $$ involved and you'll see the reason for my smile. It is impossible to take $ out of SS as SS funds were made part of the general fund under LBJ - thank you demoKKKrats. And Bush promised to remove it from the general fund and treat is seperately, which hed didn't. Thank you Bush. And I'm not sure what's so funny about the magnitude of $$ involved. Projected surplus = 2.3trillion. Cost of Bush tax cuts = 1.8trillion, then there's his increased spending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #42 May 13, 2004 Any basis behind "demoKKKrats" or does it just look funny to put KKK in the middle of a word? Did it make you laugh when you saw that word in an Ann KKKoulter article? Hey, that is fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #43 May 13, 2004 >Any basis behind "demoKKKrats" or does it just look funny to put > KKK in the middle of a word? Seems pretty clear. It's an attempt to imply that all democrats are associated with the KKK. He wants his hat back! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #44 May 13, 2004 QuoteI have trouble keeping up with your posts sometimes. Is there a special school where you can learn the current RNC propaganda vocabulary? The whole dims, sKerry, etc. terms that you are so adept at using. Do you copy that stuff from Ann coulter, or what? It's especially confusing when you use to accuse others of being partisan tools of a government party. I'd say he does it to annoy you. Which apparently it does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #45 May 13, 2004 It doesn't annoy me, it amuses me. It's amazing how easily people can be brainwashed with propaganda and sound bites. Usually people don't quote the propaganda verbatim, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #46 May 13, 2004 QuoteIt doesn't annoy me, it amuses me. It's amazing how easily people can be brainwashed with propaganda and sound bites. Usually people don't quote the propaganda verbatim, though. Have you noticed that you can tell which right wing spinmeister they are parroting from the style of the language? Ann Koulter is noticeably different from Rush, for example.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #47 May 13, 2004 Rush hasn't been so popular since the whole drug abuse thing it seems. I haven't heard anyone use the term femi-nazi in a long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #48 May 14, 2004 QuoteDude - chill. BillVon is a nice guy, even if he does delete/edit my posts for reasons known only to himself on occasion. GravityGirl is a cool chick too. I agree with you on a lot of things, truth be told, but the tenor of your posts in this thread is really combative and offensive. Passively insulting somebody's DZ.com handle just isn't cool. Apologize to Bill and Bonnie and let's have some fun sending the lefties into convulsions by making them face facts. They should hold their heads in shame for selectively ignoring facts as they do - but that's no reason to purposefully try and hurt somebody's feelings as you seem to be doing. Hey, wait a second. I did not "purposefully try and hurt somebody's feelings." I made a very veiled comment that if someone wants to take issue with the "applicability" of my dz.com handle and throw a veiled insult my way, that the same vulnerability exists about her dz.com handle. I said right off that I felt it was a personal attack she leveled at me. And then I made a point of not saying what mean things I could say about hers. Anyway, yeah, I unloaded on billvon because what I saw as duplicity in his representation of the article and Inhofe's comments got me agitated. I then said that personal attack was not my intent and we went from there. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #49 May 14, 2004 It wasn't meant to be an attack. Just an observation. Your avitar is very serene and peaceful, as is your dz.com handle. Sometimes your words just don't seem to match that image. I don't pass judgement. There is no right or wrong way to be. I just saw a contradiction. I am very sorry if I offended you. Now. Which side is right again, and which side is left? I keep forgetting. It's hard to see sides when you look at the whole picture. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #50 May 14, 2004 QuoteIt wasn't meant to be an attack. Just an observation. Your avitar is very serene and peaceful, as is your dz.com handle. Sometimes your words just don't seem to match that image. I don't pass judgement. There is no right or wrong way to be. I just saw a contradiction. I am very sorry if I offended you. Now. Which side is right again, and which side is left? I keep forgetting. It's hard to see sides when you look at the whole picture. No worries. You're not the first person to challenge me about the "peaceful" part. I'll grant with no reservations that I don't always act or speak "peacefully." It's something to strive for, but I'd never contend that I actually am always achieving it. Call it a neverending struggle. Also, the name Jeffrey comes from old French, meaning, "Heavenly peace; blessed one." (That was on a bookmark my mom bought for me when I was a teenager.) I liked that meaning, so I use it in my "handle." The avatar... I was hoping you'd say "hot 'n' sexy" rather than serene and peaceful, but serene and peaceful are pretty much just as good. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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