bodypilot90 0 #1 April 28, 2004 Below is an editorial from Sunday's edition of a Florida newspaper located in the Florida's panhandle. Phil Lucas, the paper's Executive Editor, wrote this article published in The News Herald, Panama City, Florida, Sunday, April 4, 2004. His email address is plucas@pcnh.com. The News Herald web site is found at http://www.newsherald.com/ Up Against Fanaticism By Phil Lucas, Executive Editor, Panama City New Herald April 4, 2004 If straight talk of savagery offends you, if you believe in ethnic and gender diversity but not diversity of thought or if you think there is an acceptable gray area between good and evil, then turn to the funny pages, and take the children, too. This piece is not for you. We published pictures Thursday of burnt American corpses hanging from an Iraqi bridge behind a mob of grinning Muslims. Some readers didn't like it. Mothers said it frightened their children. A woman who works with Muslim physicians thought it might offend or endanger them. Well, we sure don't want to frighten, offend or endanger anybody, do we? That's just too much diversity to handle. I mean, somebody might get hurt. We could fill the newspaper every morning with mobs of fanatical Muslims. They can't get along with their neighbors on much of the planet: France, Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia, Spain, Morocco, India, Tunisia, Somalia, etc., etc., etc. Can anybody name three ongoing world conflicts in which Muslims are not involved? Today, where there is war, there are fanatical Muslims. We might quibble about who started what conflicts, but look at the sheer number of them. One thing is sure. Muslim killers started the one we are in now when they slaughtered more that 3,000 people, including fellow Muslims, in New York City. Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of state and feckless appeaser who helped get us into this mess, said last week Muslims still resent the Crusades. Well, Madam Albright, if Westerners were not such a forgiving people, we might resent them too. Let's recap the Crusades. Muslims invaded Europe, and when they reached sufficient numbers, they imposed their intolerant religion upon Westerners by force. Christian monarchs drove them back and took the battle to their homeland. The fight lasted a couple of centuries, and we bottled them up for 1,000 years. Now, a millennium later, Muslims have expanded forth again. Ask France. Ask England. Ask Manhattan. Two-and-a-half years ago fanatical Muslims laid siege to us. We woke up to the obvious. Our president announced it would be a very long war, then took the battle to the Islamic homeland. Sound Familiar? Let's consider the concept of a "long war!" Last time it was 200 years, give or take. Anybody catch Lord of the Rings? You know, the good part, the part that wasn't fiction, the part that drew us to the books and movies because it was the truest part: the titanic struggle between good and evil, between freedom and enslavement, between the individual and the state, between the celebration of life and the worshipping of death. That's the fight we are in, and it never ends. It just has peaks and valleys. There may be a silent majority of peaceful Muslims - some live here - but that did not save 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the million gassed and butchered in the Middle East, the tens of thousands slain in Eastern Europe and Asia, the hundreds blown to bits in the West Bank and Spain, or the four Americans shot, burned and hung like sausage over the Euphrates as a fanatical minority of Muslims did the joyful dance of death. Maybe we are so tolerant, we are so bent on "diversity," we are so nonjudgmental, we are so wrapped up in our six-packs and ballgames that our brains have drained to our bulbous behinds. Maybe we're so addled on Ritalin we wouldn't know which end of a gun to hold. Maybe we need a new drug advertised on TV every three minutes, one that would help us grow a backbone. It doesn't take a Darwin to figure out that in this world the smartest, the fastest, the strongest, and the most committed always win. No exceptions. Look at your spouse and children. Look at your self in the mirror. Then look at the pictures from the paper last Thursday. You better look at them. Those are the people out to kill you. Who do you think will win? You? Or them? Think you can take your ball and go home and they will leave you alone? Read a little history. Start with last week, last month, last year, and every other year back for half a century. Then go back a thousand years. Nobody hides from this fight. Like it or not, that's the way it was and that's the way it is. But many Americans don't get it. That's why we published those pictures. If they jarred you off the sofa, if they offended you, if they scared your children and sent you into a rage at mass murderers or heartless editors, then I say, it's a start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #2 April 28, 2004 That is what i call a pretty bad trip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #3 April 28, 2004 I see the good Ol' boy' red neck spirt is alive and kicking still. How about killing bombing Ireland and Spain into the middle ages? Theres an idea. I mean we all know that the Catholics are sick murdering terrorists. PIRA, RIRA, INLA, ETA the list of these terrorist scum is long! Some of them live amoung us but they want to kill us all. So far they haven't killed that many Americans but they will! Its just a matter of time, wake up and smeel the coffee. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,608 #4 April 28, 2004 His wife must have left him for an Imam.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 April 28, 2004 LOL....... I've now got a whole lot of people looking at me wondering what I'm lauging at in a childrens clinic.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Skydiver 0 #6 April 28, 2004 What would you suggest then? Kill them off like the nazis tried with the jews? That should solve the problem, right? Everyone is an indiviaual, it just so happens that some people will cause trouble and others will want to retaliate, it's their nature. When this happens people look for the differences and they are either in one camp or the other. It happens with wars, it happens with so called football hooligans in the UK, it happens in night clubs every Saturday night and it happens in the school yard. It's not their religion that's the problem and blaming it on the religion is inflammatory. If all trouble makers wore red hats would you say all red hat wearers were trouble makers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #7 April 28, 2004 QuoteMuslims invaded Europe, and when they reached sufficient numbers, they imposed their intolerant religion upon Westerners by force. this statement is complete & utter BS. stopped reading after thisThe universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 April 28, 2004 More from "The Religion of Peace" Apr 28, 9:30 AM EDT 112 Killed in South Thailand Gunbattles By ALISA TANG Associated Press Writer PATTANI, Thailand (AP) -- Police gunned down machete-wielding militants who stormed security outposts in Thailand's Muslim-dominated south Wednesday, killing at least 112 people in one of the bloodiest days in the Southeast Asian kingdom. The attackers were mostly teenagers - some wearing red head bands - and were intent on stealing weapons. They were poorly armed and apparently unaware that police had been tipped off in advance and were lying in wait for them. The eight hours of mayhem ended when police fired tear gas and rocket-propelled grenades into a mosque, killing 32 militants who, witnesses said, were sheltering inside after running away from an earlier battle. Full story: http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/THAILAND_SOUTHERN_VIOLENCE?SITE=MYPSP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #9 April 28, 2004 Christianity, IIRC, does not call for the murder of those who do not believe. Islam does. (No, I do not have Bible/Koran citations for this--look it up.) The first Mosque in Wichita was just constructed. Do you think I'd be able to go into Ryadh(sp?) and build a Xian Cathedral? I seriously doubt it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #10 April 28, 2004 Apparently most US-Bush haters have trouble understanding the written word"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #11 April 28, 2004 "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #12 April 28, 2004 >Christianity, IIRC, does not call for the murder of those who do not believe . . . From Deuteronomy: If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and serve other gods,' which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him. From Leviticus: And whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall certainly stone him, the stranger as well as him who is born in the land. ----------------- Of course, nowadays we don't claim that christians should kill everyone who believes in an odd god, or anyone who works on saturday, or anyone that blasphemes the name of god. It would take a really twisted person to read the bible and take that stuff seriously. Unfortunately, there are twisted people out there, and they are both christian and muslim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,600 #13 April 28, 2004 Christianity might not call for murder in the Bible, but it has certainly engaged in it. Look up Inquisition, Crusades, and Christianization of Primitives. All of those included the killing of people who would not convert, or simply their killing. We don't formally condone it now. There are people who call themselves Christians (e.g. some of the Nazi-types) who do call for killing. Does that mean that Christians condone it. And if you can't be bothered to look it up, but would rather simply spout what someone told you might exist, well, y'know, obviously it's not very important to you, is it? Many of the violent criminals in the US would, if asked, call themselves Christian. Does that make them so? I guess if you're a Muslim, it might, just as a violent Muslim criminal becomes a representative of Islam to some folks here in the US. Treat every person as your brother. Maybe your lunatic brother, but every person is a creation of God. Treat them as such, in thoughts, words, and deeds. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #14 April 28, 2004 I stand corrected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites