Your Papers, Please!

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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"Use this copy to be able to instantly know whom you have to call if your wallet is ever stolen or lost."

I have a 'sentinel' service on all my cards, one phone call and they are all cancelled, they also keep stuff for me like a copy of my passport, birth cert etc, and sort the whole thing out if it all goes pear shaped.
I'm pretty sure there's setups like that in the US.

While that sounds a bit more convenient and instanteous than keeping one's own record of the wallet's contents, I don't imagine I would be as comfortable putting so much faith in some service, much less paying for it. Is there a monthly or annual fee?

Okay, this "sentinel service" may help you cancel stolen credit cards, but will it help you remember all the other cards that were lost when the wallet disappeared? Your USPA card? Your NRA card? Your Blockbuster Video card? Your Concealed Weapons Permit? Your Driver's License? Your PDGA (Professional Disc Golf Association) card? Your library card?

Many of these -- and others -- I'll bet are not connected or connectable to this "sentinel card," so my system still works best. I'm talking not just about what cards will need to be immediately canceled, but also what cards you will simply wish to remember had been in the wallet and will need to be replaced through the normal bureaucratic channels.
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Nope, it covers all of them.
Offshore ID cards, BPA paperwork, store cards, even video cards.
As I spend a lot of time travelling on business, there's not much point keeping stuff in my glovebox, which may be on a different continent to the one in which I may be stranded.

They have a list of the stuff they have records for, and I update that list every 6 months or whenever I get new stuff.

It works for me, your system works for you, its all good.

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[mr2mk1g 10]

I like the idea. The point of the card is that as it's biometric and will include two different identifying features (ie fingerprints and retinal scan) it should be impossible to carry out identity theft. Stealing a card is similarly simply not an option. It will have something of a role in fighting terrorism, although how big a role is wide open to debate. According to the radio debate I listened to yesterday, the politician who is backing this has been doing so well before 9/11 and on 9/13 was asked in Parliament about his proposed ID card scheme and if it is intended to fight terrorism. He replied it would help but that terrorism was only a side issue in his reasoning for the introduction of ID cards. Terrorism is wrongly being pushed by the press as the reason for the introduction of these cards.

We have a massive problem with illegal immigration in this country. Whilst I know there are similar issues with illegal immigration in the US, just imagine all those Mexican migrants living of social security and using healthcare you paid for in taxes instead of propping up your primary industries as they are doing. That is the problem faced by the UK at the moment – these people are able come over here because of the free movement of people within Europe, and they disappear into society. We only ever find out that they’re here when they’re washed up on Morcombe beach! They commit ID fraud and then welch off social security and make liberal use the NHS without ever paying a penny in tax.

If they were required to show a fraud proof ID card before receiving their weekly handout or before they got their free healthcare, Britain would be a far less attractive target for these international squatters. They wouldn’t be able to work here, they wouldn’t be able to get healthcare, no free housing and no government handouts. If it’s impossible for them to live here illegally they would be forced to leave or gain a legal status. There’s nothing wrong with legal migration. Things are only going to get worse after the expansion of the EU. I’m willing to live with a little card in my wallet if it means that British taxpayers money goes into the well being of British taxpayers.

[Skyrad 0]

'Your Concealed Weapons Permit? '

Not a problem here in the UK, but lets not go there

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[PhillyKev 0]

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But, there aren't any laws requiring you to carry it at all times.

No, but who needs laws to enforce carrying it when daily life is made nearly impossible if you are without one, anyway?

I can't believe that you can turn a computer on but can't see that there is really no practical difference.
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The difference is, right now, if a cop thinks I'm suspicious for whatever reason and I'm walking down the street, he can't arrest me if I don't have a driver's license on me.

[hairyjuan 0]

i suggest that you go back and read the first nine amendments to the the document that bush says is just a GODDAMN piece of paper!!!, and then ask yourself why the not-so supreme court said, "those who sleep on their rights don't have them". go to www.barefootsworld.net and find the war and emergency powers report

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[SpeedRacer 1]

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He said the biometric system proposed would end multiple identities and give a boost to the fight against terrorism and organised crime....The principal reason people gave for backing the adoption of ID cards was to prevent illegal immigration.

I guess STEALING THE FRIGGIN CARDS never crossed anyone's mind there, eh?

There's a simple solution to this. Just tattoo the bar code on everyone's right hand or forehead.

Right under the little 666 barcode.

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[warpedskydiver 0]

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He said the biometric system proposed would end multiple identities and give a boost to the fight against terrorism and organised crime....The principal reason people gave for backing the adoption of ID cards was to prevent illegal immigration.

I guess STEALING THE FRIGGIN CARDS never crossed anyone's mind there, eh?

I laughed out loud at that. Not only that, but computer hackers can infiltrate the network and adjust the "data" being stored in the network. Then, all you need are "blank" ID cards.

It's no different than the 20,000 blank passports that were stolen in Paris in February. Once you have the template, a whole new world is available.

Fuck in Paris why steal em when the government will give a French passport to world class fugitives?

[goalie35 0]

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Personally I didn't think it was an invasion of privacy or Big Brother checking up. With our soaring crime rate, I believe it is just another 'tool' the authorities can use to combat crime.

The point being, that these same "authorities" define what a crime is. Today it's murder, theft and rape; tomorrow it's "thoughtcrime." Those of us opposed to the idea of national ID are, among other things, trying to preserve the possibility of acting against a future government that decides we exist for it, not the other way around.

...Or is that day already here?

[JohnRich 4]

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i suggest that you go back and read the first nine amendments to the the document that bush says is just a GODDAMN piece of paper!!!, and then ask yourself why the not-so supreme court said, "those who sleep on their rights don't have them". go to www.barefootsworld.net and find the war and emergency powers report

Gosh, you responded to a message I posted 2 years ago!

And you also seem to have made some kind of assumption about me, that is incorrect. I think.

Instead of assigning homework to others, maybe you should just come out and say what you have to say.

[christelsabine 1]

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I think embedding a microchip in either the forehead or wrist would be best. It could also be used for a cashless society, just record all transactions on people's chips and don't allow anyone to buy or sell who doesn't have one. Makes perfectly logical sense.

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[mnealtx 0]

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I think embedding a microchip in either the forehead or wrist would be best. It could also be used for a cashless society, just record all transactions on people's chips and don't allow anyone to buy or sell who doesn't have one. Makes perfectly logical sense.

Maybe they can just put in under the tattoo they put on at the same time...

Mike
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[turtlespeed 226]

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I think embedding a microchip in either the forehead or wrist would be best. It could also be used for a cashless society, just record all transactions on people's chips and don't allow anyone to buy or sell who doesn't have one. Makes perfectly logical sense.

Maybe they can just put in under the tattoo they put on at the same time...

Like this one?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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