Gawain 0 #1 April 22, 2004 A couple of links: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117833,00.html http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/04/21/jackson.case/index.html So, this little story will suck some oxygen out of Southern California, and the world for that matter, once the trial begins (guessing December?). You know, if he's found guilty, and sentenced to prison, it's pretty much gonzo-time for the guy. You know how child molestors are viewed in the "prison" environment.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #2 April 22, 2004 QuoteYou know, if he's found guilty, and sentenced to prison, it's pretty much gonzo-time for the guy. You know how child molestors are viewed in the "prison" environment. I really, really, really hope justice occurs in this case . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 April 22, 2004 For anyone that caught South Park tonight, Michael Jackson melted... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #4 April 22, 2004 QuoteFor anyone that caught South Park tonight, Michael Jackson melted... Ok, I didn't catch the episode...but reading that made me laugh my ass off.... ~R+R~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #5 April 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteFor anyone that caught South Park tonight, Michael Jackson melted... Ok, I didn't catch the episode...but reading that made me laugh my ass off.... Also, his nose came off. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #6 April 22, 2004 QuoteYou know, if he's found guilty, and sentenced to prison, it's pretty much gonzo-time for the guy. You know how child molestors are viewed in the "prison" environment. He'd better go ahead and pick one of those Nation of Islam guys to stay close to and be butt buddies with in prison. You know...plan ahead. So he doesn't get killed. Maybe that's why he converted religions so quickly when he saw things going to shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 April 22, 2004 QuoteFor anyone that caught South Park tonight, Michael Jackson melted... The episode is hilarious. "You're just being ignorant!" And the cops seeking to frame a rich blank man, then balking because he's white. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #8 April 22, 2004 Hey law, What's the difference between prelim hearing and Grand Jury inditment? This is confusing to me. Why do some go to the GJ while others to the prelim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 April 22, 2004 In California, they both accomplish the same purpose. Both the Grand Jury and the "Preliminary Hearing" are used to determine whether "probable cause" exists. Grand Juries are actually a bit of an oddity in Cali. The prosecutor has the discretion of whether he wants a Grand Jury to indict the suspect, or whether he'd rather have the court make a probable cause determination to go to trial (Federal Courts use the Grand Jury far more often than Cali Courts do). Typically, after a guy gets pinched, he'll have up to 72 hours for his arraignment, where the judge determines what bail should be, if any, and where the initial plea is entered. This is also where there is often a first plea bargain. Once the arraignment occurs, if there is a "not guilty" plea, the sides exchange their evidence. Then there is a preliminary hearing. In the case of a Grand Jury, the evidence and proceedings are held in secret, and the Grand Jury decides probable cause. Or, in a preliminary hearing, the court decides. THere must only be admissible evidence sufficient to show a prima facie case (that is, meeting all the elements of the crime.) SO, Both Grand Juries and Preliminary Hearings do the same thing. One is done by the court, the other is done by a quasi-judicial body. Note: Santa Barbara County uses the Grand Jury a lot. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottjaco 0 #10 April 23, 2004 He may have done it, or he could just be a target. I think it's a little of both. I don't think he will get convicted. I think he is guilty.... but in this country, that doesn't seem to matter much if you are rich and famous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
