dgskydive 0 #1 April 20, 2004 This pic was put up a few weeks ago and started a big fuss. Here is the pic and the article. I think this guy is in big trouble and it is time to pay up. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0419042iraq1.htmlDom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #2 April 21, 2004 If that picture had indeed been photoshopped (as he claims), it should be pretty easy to prove it. I mean, he probably has the original somewhere, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #3 April 21, 2004 My first thought on that is that it has been Photoshopped.... I mean, how stupid would someone have to be to write up a sign like that and then have themselves photographed with it??? But then I remember how stupid some people are... and I'm not so sure... But I'm still leaning towards the Photoshop theory... easy enough to do, and I'd really like to think that no US military person is that much of an asshole... (or is that just naive of me????) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #4 April 21, 2004 Do you have a copy of every photograph you were ever in? I don't either.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 April 21, 2004 So where's the pic of the sister. That should clear things up! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #6 April 21, 2004 I still think its funny."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 April 21, 2004 Actualy I'm inclined to agree with you. What Ifind even more funny is that if it was true no one would care, but as soon as someone 'allegedly' makes a joke photo claiming it everyones a bleeding heart. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #8 April 21, 2004 QuoteWhat Ifind even more funny is that if it was true no one would care I don't agree with that. I happen to know of a guy that is making little rocks out of big rocks cause he raped a woman while being deployed. Edit to add:Opps damn spelling"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #9 April 21, 2004 Quotelittle rocks out of big rocks cause he rapped a woman while being deployed. Really? Wow. You guys really are getting strict about everything over there.. Unless you mean raped. Then I'd understand completely. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzwami 0 #10 April 21, 2004 You mean this guy? http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=59682 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 April 21, 2004 QuoteYou mean this guy? http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=59682 That seems much more likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #12 April 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou mean this guy? http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=59682 That seems much more likely. Really? Saved my Dad then rescued my sister? Why not "Saved my Dad and Sister" Just a thought... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 April 21, 2004 QuoteReally? Saved my Dad then rescued my sister? Why not "Saved my Dad and Sister" Just a thought... Maybe because he wrote it, not you....just a thought Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #14 April 21, 2004 Glad to hear it.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #15 April 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteReally? Saved my Dad then rescued my sister? Why not "Saved my Dad and Sister" Just a thought... Maybe because he wrote it, not you....just a thought Actually, that picture (rescued&saved) looks more photoshopped to me...a lot more blurred areas and a lot more sharp edges around words and parts of that board. If the first photo is also doctored, someone did a much better job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 April 21, 2004 Hmmm....you're right. The a, e, and d are also different than in his name. They're probably both photoshopped. Even so, I think that message is much more likely what he put on there. Even if someone were stupid enough to put a message like what was claimed, I have a hard time believing they'd include their name and rank as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #17 April 21, 2004 QuoteActually, that picture (rescued&saved) looks more photoshopped to me...a lot more blurred areas and a lot more sharp edges around words and parts of that board. If the first photo is also doctored, someone did a much better job. The first photo is 113KB with smaller dimensions, and the second photo is only 103KB with larger dimensions... So I would say the blurriness around the words has to do with the quality of the .jpg that was saved and not how well it was touched up. I have seen a different copy of that first photo that is only 72KB, and as you can see, the lower quality is making the letters blurrier: http://www.cair-net.org/images/lcpl11.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #18 April 21, 2004 Quote The first photo is 113KB with smaller dimensions, and the second photo is only 103KB with larger dimensions... So I would say the blurriness around the words has to do with the quality of the .jpg that was saved and not how well it was touched up. I have seen a different copy of that first photo that is only 72KB, and as you can see, the lower quality is making the letters blurrier: http://www.cair-net.org/images/lcpl11.jpg I did consider that, but the edges and blurring look a lot more like retouching than the effects of resizing or resampling a picture. So I'd still say that while I'm not sure about the first one, the second picture is definitely photoshopped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #19 April 21, 2004 And I think this is the most realistic version of that picture that I have seen: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=61223 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #20 April 21, 2004 Quotebut the edges and blurring look a lot more like retouching than the effects of resizing or resampling a picture To me, they look more like the effects of saving a compressed image in .jpg format, but I guess it's all a matter of opinion... Here is a copy of the first photo posted in this thread that I put into Photoshop and saved with a higher level of compression. The letters are now blurrier. Who knows... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #21 April 21, 2004 Considering that this guy was probably in combat getting shot at (he's infantry), I say all the PC types should just have a cup of Shut the F*** Up. Ever heard of freedom of speech? I think it's funny as hell. Pay up? Send him to combat, then court martial him for having a sick sense of humor? Grow up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #22 April 21, 2004 I don't think we need another thread about that picture...Shotgun's link probably summed it up the best. But is it just me, or are these two sentences; Quote...just have a cup of Shut the F*** Up. Ever heard of freedom of speech? just the funniest thing about this whole thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #23 April 21, 2004 QuoteBut is it just me, or are these two sentences; Quote...just have a cup of Shut the F*** Up. Ever heard of freedom of speech? just the funniest thing about this whole thread? That's pretty funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #24 April 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteBut is it just me, or are these two sentences; Quote...just have a cup of Shut the F*** Up. Ever heard of freedom of speech? just the funniest thing about this whole thread? That's pretty funny. LoL...I have to agree...that is pretty damned funny...... ~R+R~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #25 April 21, 2004 OK, OK, OK, I hereby submit myself to the body for appropriate discipline. I could've gone back and edited my stupidity, but who am I to stop people from having a real good laugh (even if it's at my expense). Hey, I'm a good sport. I still say have a Cup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites