Warning lables on french fries

[freeflygoddess 0]

Ok they are talking about putting a Suergon's General Warning on French Fries here in Cali, to let people know that it has caused cancer when given in large amounts to rats. They are also thinking about a warning saying they cause obesity and heart problems. So what happens next, hmm...someone sues McDonalds for their child's exccess weight and heart problems, because "they are too young to make that desicion on their own" Thus leading to having to be 18 or over to purchase French Fries...So no more Fries in happy meals, no more fries at the grocery store to make at home...Don't get caught contributing to the delinquicy of minors by having Fries at you family BBQ.... Is that nuts or what?

[Gawain 0]

Some fat-ass already tried sueing McDonald's in NY. It was thrown out of court IIRC.

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Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Nightingale 0]

SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: RESEARCH CAUSES CANCER IN RATS.

[PhillyKev 0]

Wouldn't it be easier to label all the stuff that doesn't cause cancer?

[freeflygoddess 0]

yeah but if they put a lable on it, like they do cigaretts and alchol, wouldn't that be the same exact thing? If you are under 18 you can not make those choices on your own, you can't be legal liable so, who wouldn't turn around and sue...it would be an easy win then...If I thought about it I am sure others have and I am very sure others will go out and sue, just because they can....even if they don't win, it sure would hinder our courts and they would then make the 18 and over limit

[freeflygoddess 0]

but what could they label then? not even air....esp air in LA....

[freeflybella 0]

The unhealthy quality of our food supply is a result of pure and total greed.

Families should be able to afford healthful, natural food.

I'm not sure what the deal is about warnings on french fries but if it's true, my guess is it's less for parents, and more for the FF makers. If labels reveal health risks, it makes them look bad. Consequently (hopefully) forcing them to do what they can to make them healthier.

My personal opinion is that marketing food to children in a 'fun' 'happy' way is disgusting.

In a related story, 15% of kids are overweight in this country. I find that way more 'nuts' than not being able to get french fries in a Happy Meal.

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[Kennedy 0]

The french eat far worse foods than we do here in the US. The difference is that they don't gorge themselves on it. It's not what we eat, it's how much.

Eating bad things doesn't make you fat, eating too much of anything makes you fat.

I do agree though, some things are far too processed to taste sweet rather than be healthy.

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[billvon 3,154]

>The unhealthy quality of our food supply is a result of pure and total
> greed. Families should be able to afford healthful, natural food.

?? Huh? Apples and broccoli are cheap. People prefer McDonald's. They eat it because of pure and total free will.

>My personal opinion is that marketing food to children in
>a 'fun' 'happy' way is disgusting.

Why?

[skyyhi 0]

Totally agree with you Kennedy. . .there are many countries that eat far more fattening foods than we do here in this country and have not nearly the obesity problem. The problem here is portion control and balance. We don't learn to eat properly when growing up and as we get older we just compound the problem. I "dieted" my way to 288 lbs before taking control of my weight and my eating. Balance and portion control is the key. We should all be teaching our children this. . .I know I failed to do this with my son and am having to reteach him now, when his dietary habits are already formed. . .it is a tough one. . .

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[freeflygoddess 0]

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15% of kids are overweight in this country. I find that way more 'nuts' than not being able to get french fries in a Happy Meal.

Yeah but who's fault is that really? the makers? No the people eating them, and the parents letting their kids eat them....What happend to parents makeing kids eat healthy foods and occasionally eat junk food? Oh I know people look down upon forcing your kids to eat veggies that they don't like, that is a form of abuse to some people, and to them you should let your children eat what they want to and what do kids want to eat but junk food? Why because it tastes good. Junk food is fine every once in a while, but not everyday. Then you have the families that have no time to cook and eat out everyday. Then you have people who can't afford to buy health foods, like you stated in the begining. What is cheap? Oh all the bad stuff. Why is that, because the makers of the health food know that they can overcharge because people will pay it and they will continue to pay it.

Now I just think it is crazy to put lables for the obvious....like Caution Coffee is Hot...What's up with that? Or at a stadium and the rails say Don't lean over or jump off? Even at the DZ warning labels on Tandem harnesses...duh, why would someone really think that jumping out with just the harness on will save their life? It isn't that people are that stupid, it is the fact the people like to manipulate things to make money. Like the parents who sued Bevis and Butthead makers, for the frog baseball episode, claiming it corrupted their kids and made them do things.... Yeah the cartoon is really to blame for that.... how about blaming your kids for their actions....Or better yet blameing The Matrix for the Columbine shooting....Yep, every one who saw that move is now corrupt and will eventually kill everyone they see. Is the movie to blame for that? Hell no. Are the parents? No not really, because those kids made their choices, their parents didn't raise them to kill students. They should have noticed their kids' behaviour before hand, but they were teenagers and teenagers all act funny.

[skyyhi 0]

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Apples and broccoli are cheap. People prefer McDonald's. They eat it because of pure and total free will.

Yep, since I started eating better food my grocery bill has dropped ASTOUNDINGLY. . .

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[Kennedy 0]

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Then you have the families that have no time to cook and eat out everyday. Then you have people who can't afford to buy health foods, like you stated in the begining. What is cheap? Oh all the bad stuff. Why is that, because the makers of the health food know that they can overcharge because people will pay it and they will continue to pay it.

This is a misconception. It is actually much cheaper to purchase ingredients and make dinner. I can't think of anything more expensive than eating out on a regular basis. Also, frozen meals and and meals-in-a-minute do not qualify as cooking. They are as unhealthy, or worse, than eating out.

You don't have to buy gourmet name brand fru-fru stuff to eat healthy. That's just proof that their marketing has been effective.

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[Nightingale 0]

It took me quite a while to get over the "eat everything on your plate" syndrome instilled in me by my parents.

Now, I stop eating when I'm not hungry anymore, leftovers be damned.

At McDonalds, I order a kids meal instead of a big mac combo. Cheaper, and just the right size.

[Nightingale 0]

It took me quite a while to get over the "eat everything on your plate" syndrome instilled in me by my parents.

Now, I stop eating when I'm not hungry anymore, leftovers be damned.

At McDonalds, I order a kids meal instead of a big mac combo. Cheaper, and just the right size.

[billvon 3,154]

>Then you have the families that have no time to cook and eat out everyday.

No problem from a health perspective, just go to Souplantation or Chipotle's. Both have very healthy food available, and most regular restaraunts have good food available as well.

>Then you have people who can't afford to buy health foods, like you
> stated in the begining. What is cheap? Oh all the bad stuff. Why is
> that, because the makers of the health food know that they can
>overcharge because people will pay it and they will continue to pay it.

Hmm. I notice the opposite. The vegetables and rice to do a veggie stir fry that will feed 2-3 people is about $5. Meat costs more, and TV dinners cost even more.

[Nightingale 0]

I eat out every day. I am single and don't like leftovers, so cooking doesn't make a whole lot of sense for me. The thing is, when I eat out, I make smart choices. I don't order big macs and fries, I order grilled fish tacos and salads with low cal dressing.

You can eat healthy and eat out at the same time. You just have to be cautious about it.

[freeflybella 0]

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>My personal opinion is that marketing food to children in
>a 'fun' 'happy' way is disgusting.

Why?

Because children have no money. They have no buying power. They are being 'sold' things and enticed by things when they don't have the experience and maturity to know better. Granted, it's up to parents to ulitmately decide what their children should/will eat.

Additionally, again my personal opinion, children should be taught the rules before they are taught to break them. Food is nutritious first, enjoyable second. If that's taught from the beginning, nutritious food might be preferred over McDonald's in the long run.

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[freeflybella 0]

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You don't have to buy gourmet name brand fru-fru stuff to eat healthy. That's just proof that their marketing has been effective.

I agree. Apples and broccoli are cheap. Apples and broccoli without hormones and pesticides are more. That, is what I mean by the unhealthy quality of our food being a product of greed.

Additionally, those foods are not readily and plentifully available to many people.

I also agree that there is $$ in marketing the gourmet fru-fru stuff. Take the marketing equation out of it - and I stand by what I wrote. Food that is not genetically altered, processed, infused with chemicals, etc. is more expensive than food that isn't.

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[freeflygoddess 0]

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It took me quite a while to get over the "eat everything on your plate" syndrome instilled in me by my parents.

Oh I remeber that too, but I think mostly it was to make me eat my veggies and to make sure I knew what "your eyes are bigger than your stomache" meant as well. I make sure my kids eat everything, well not my two year old, but my six year old. I have him tell me how much he wants, I don't let him pick out what he wants, because I will not allow my kids to be spoiled like my little brother...my parents would order him a pizza if he didn't like what they made for dinner...Now back to my son, he picks out how much he gets of what, but I make sure he tries everything and then I make sure he eats it all, why because he needs to eat everything that is made for him, until he has a job and can buy his own food, and he needs to learn that he can get seconds, if he is still hungry, not pile too much on his plate that he can not eat, that we can not use for leftovers.

edited to add: I make sure of when I do know that he really does not like something and when he is just saying that to get dessert...there is a difference....trust me...

[lawrocket 3]

You know, there was a marekd increase in cancer reports of people who lived miles upwind of Three Mile Island.

A theory, which is starting to gain steam, is that people can WORRY THEMSELVES into cancer. Thus, people who fear getting cancer will have a higher likelihood of getting cancer through cause and effect (there is some admittedly weak science suggesting that the increased adrenaline levels can cause this).

It would be interesting to see whether the warnings posted about a cancer risks of french fries will cause many to worry about cancer.

As an aside, I wonder what PETA thinks of this. They'd want us to eat potato carcasses, wouldn't they? But, now we can't because lab tests on mice showed cancer risks.

On another note, it's not at all surprising that tubers contan cancer causing chemicals, is it? They suck up everything and store it. Potatoes contain a myriad of toxins and carcinogens whether fried or not. Breaded and deep fried arsenic would probably cause health problems, too, and the frying is likely the least of the worries.

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[freeflygoddess 0]

yep that is true...just like Sweet N Low causes cancer...yes it does, in large ammounts given to lab rats...hmm....

I do wonder what PETS thinks, after all they are giving cancer to rats knowingly, just to see the effects so they can lable things for humans...hmm...

Well all this just boils down to is the simple saying, "You can't please everyone" Someone somewhere is going to find an excusse for everything and someway to sue someone just because they can. You really can go and sue so and so for haveing blue eyes, not that you would win or any lawyer would take your case but you really could....After all you can sue coffee suppliers for coffee being hot, if they don't have that lable on their cups....

[PhillyKev 0]

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?? Huh? Apples and broccoli are cheap. People prefer McDonald's. They eat it because of pure and total free will.

Not entirely true. Philly is frequently ranked as the fattest city in the country. The main reason is the lack of supermarkets. Comparing the number of supermarkets per capita to other major cities such as NY, chicago, Miami, and LA; Philly would need to multiply the number of supermarkets by 5 to be on the same level as them. Doesn't matter how cheap apples and broccoli are if there's no one within a reasonable distance selling them. And this has nothing to do with the free market and people choosing not to shop at super markets. People want to shop at them, and there's enough of a demand that they want to open more but because of draconian zoning laws are unable to.

[lawrocket 3]

Out of curiosiyt, does Philadelphia or the State of Pennsylvania put a sales tax on unprepared foods? If not, it may be the explanation for the lack of establishments selling unprepared foods.

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[Kennedy 0]

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Philly is frequently ranked as the fattest city in the country. The main reason is the lack of supermarkets.

Now that's a reason worth looking into. I didn't think of it at the time, but Philly really doesn't have a lot of grocery stores. In NYC, the first floor of probably half the buildings has some kind of store front. There are usually at least two mom and pop grocers within easy walking distance. If you can't walk to it in NYC, it must be Jersey.

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