John Kerry: The "Common Man"

[Zenister 0]

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Please. Both Bush and Kerry are far removed from the problems of the "common person." To say one is more in tune with the problems of common Americans is ridiculous. How many commoners use to own part of a baseball team. If George would've had a different last name would've he gotten into Yale?

What, rich people can't have more and less in common with the "common man?"

I was referring to the fact that he watches baseball, likes to hunt, practices his faith, owns a dog, etc.

sort of depends on how they got to be rich...did they earn it or have it fed to them on a silver spoon?

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[SpeedRacer 1]

WTF? colloquial regional pride aside, why is it better to be from one geographical area within America than another?? WTF does this have to do with the issues?

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[Kennedy 0]

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Vote Cthulhu, why chose between lesser evils?

OK, now THIS SITE is just disturbing....


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[Zenister 0]

i think i've been sent that link like 12 times since i changed my signature...

the 'joke' started last election on a horror literature board i used to write at on occasion...i guess its really spiraled since...

strangely enough someone recognized my miskatonic university shirt in the airport last week...


uh oh.. i guess we'd better speculate on what dark gods the Skull and Bones Frat worship to keep this thread OT..

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WTF? colloquial regional pride aside, why is it better to be from one geographical area within America than another?? WTF does this have to do with the issues?

Nothing really.

However, it's a commonly held belief by most in political circles that you can NOT win without winning "the south". Further, it's generally considered that a candidate is more electable if he's FROM "the south".

In this particular case, Texas counts as being farther (maybe even further) south.

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[kallend 2,174]

Which "common men" have been presidents recently? Carter, Reagan and Clinton come to mind.

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[chuckbrown 0]

This is quite off thread, but I loved H.P. Lovecraft's books (read 'em all). Best horror writer ever.

OK, back on thread.

[PhillyKev 0]

My question is, how much time does Bush spend at his modest little ranch?

As of Aug. 2003 it was 250 days, or 27% of his presidency on vacation. And he just announced that after his speech tonight, he'll be taking a month off at his ranch. It's not like anything important is going on.

Yeah, I know, he's still working. But don't you think the president should spend a little more time in Washington at the White House where all the other centers of power are?

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As of Aug. 2003 it was 250 days, or 27% of his presidency on vacation... Yeah, I know, he's still working.

I love it when you contradict your own premise, within your own message.

Just because he's at the ranch, doesn't mean that he is not doing his job just as fully as if he was in the White House.

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Just because he's at the ranch, doesn't mean that he is not doing his job just as fully as if he was in the White House.

Well, he was proudly showing off the nature trail that he built with his own hands. He even posed for pictures holding a hoe. I don't think he was getting much presidential work done while he was spreading mulch (come to think of it, I guess that's the definition of his job).

At least with Clinton, when he was working with a hoe, he didn't leave the oval office

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Which "common men" have been presidents recently? Carter, Reagan and Clinton come to mind.

might be a case for Regan and Carter, but Clinton has always been a professional politician...that pretty much excludes you from the 'common man' definition..

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[Gawain 0]

His most recent stint at the ranch was to receive Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. Personally, I think it's outstanding that he breaks out of the beltway as often as he does.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Kennedy 0]

Funny, but while he was walking the Ranch, you might mention he was meeting with reps from about a dozen conservation and outdoor groups. That seems like presidential work to me.

I thought the environment and conservation were important issues to you Kev. Do you really want him spending even less time on them than he already is?


ps - he's also not in the whitehouse because it is undergoing construction and such.

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while he was spreading mulch (come to think of it, I guess that's the definition of his job)

that would be spreading fertilizer. mulch is quite different.

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[PhillyKev 0]

You think it's outstanding that he has spent more time away from the Whitehouse in 3 years than any other president before him, even those who served 2 full terms?

The beltway happens to be where all the work gets done, not Crawford, Texas.

[Kennedy 0]

So the Camp David accords, signed in Camp David, don't qualify as getting anything done? or the cease fire in northern Ireland that was signed there rather than London. etc etc etc

You're not making a strong case for your position, Kev.

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[PhillyKev 0]

Actually, his Press Secretary has stated that his vacation won't be all play and no work. He's planning on making sojourns to 12 cities during his month long vacation. The purpose of these trips? Campaign fund raising of course.

Come on now. I don't begrudge the guy some down time. But he's taken more vacation than any other president ever, and he hasn't even served a full term yet. And he doesn't take a few days here and there. This will be his third full month out of office in the past year. That's a little over the top.

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But don't you think the president should spend a little more time in Washington at the White House where all the other centers of power are?

Should I spend more time in Newark, NJ, where my production website is located?

With modern communication systems is it really necessary to be in Washington? Can the President continue to do his job while at the ranch?

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[Gawain 0]

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You think it's outstanding that he has spent more time away from the Whitehouse in 3 years than any other president before him, even those who served 2 full terms?

Yes, I do. That hasn't been all at the ranch either. If anything, it keeps his perspective from being eroded like all the other "government people" who stew and are anchored in DC.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!