TheAnvil 0 #1 April 7, 2004 OK all you nay-sayers about media bias! Senator Dodd's comments on everyone's FAVORITE former KKK member a couple of days ago on the Senate floor. Not at a birthday party - on the floor of the Senate in sesson. Sen. Byrd would have been right during the Civil War, eh? No outcries of anguish from the left. Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk. I want to see CNN's intense analysis on this contrasted with their coverage of Mr. Lott's recent controversy. While you're at it, please remember that those of us who watch FOX regularly remember how intensely Fox covered the Lott 'controversy'. Just a friendly helpful hint from TheAnvil so you won't embarrass yourselves. Where are Senator Kerry's comments on this? Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahaha. Hypocrisy is so much fun to laugh at.! Vinny the Anvil Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #2 April 7, 2004 I came in here looking to see if anyone had mentioned this one yet. I suspect you won't end up see too much on any of the "Elite News" stations..... Sad really. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #3 April 7, 2004 Anyway here is just a snip of what he said, Dodd said of Byrd, "You would have been a great senator at any moment....you would have been right at the founding of this country, right during the Civil War....I can't think of a single moment in this nation's 220+ year history where you would not have been a valuable asset to this country." Compared to Lott, who was at a birthday party mind you who said of Thurman: If you had been elected, we would have all the problems we are having now. I can't even clearly see the connection to racism directly in Lotts case, but in Dodds case, He says during the Civil War Byrd would have made the right decisions for our nation. I guess that would be to force the south to win and to keep killing and enslaving blacks. I mean Byrd was a member of the KKK afterall. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #4 April 7, 2004 Agreed dude. I can't see what Lott said as racist at all. VinnyVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 April 7, 2004 Maybe because he wasn't the only one. QuoteI wanted to say that one of the great joys of serving in the Senate is my being able to get to know my friend from West Virginia. We have had our disagreements, but that is natural because this aisle separates us once in a while. But nothing has separated ROBERT BYRD from each Senator in the Senate. He has been the most agreeable Senator, on a personal basis, that I have known in the Senate. I think every Senator will say the same thing. -Stevens - Republican QuoteMr. ALEXANDER. Mr. President, I rise today to salute my senior colleague, Senator ROBERT C. BYRD of West Virginia. Today, the Senator passed a milestone that has never been passed before, and may never be passed again: he cast his 17,000 th vote on the Senate floor. It's an amazing achievement. No other sitting Senator has cast more than 15,000 votes. Senator Thurmond, who is no longer with us, cast the next highest total of 16,348 votes. Mr. President, Senator BYRD has had a long and distinguished career in the United States Senate. He was first elected to this body in 1958. Only Senator Thurmond served longer, but Senator BYRD may soon pass that record, too--he's only got two more years to go. He became the Democratic Leader in 1977, holding that position for six consecutive 2-year terms, three terms as majority leader, and three as minority leader. He also served as President pro tempore--third in line in the order of succession to the Presidency, after the Vice President and the Speaker of the House--from 1989 to 1995 and 2001 to 2003. The Senator from West Virginia is also a master historian. His four-volume, 3,000 page history of the U.S. Senate has been called ``the most ambitious study of the U.S. Senate in all of our history.'' He is a passionate advocate for understanding our history, not only among Senators, but for the entire country. In 2000, the Senator's efforts led to the creation of the Teaching American History Grant Program--commonly referred to as the Byrd grants--to encourage better teaching of American history in our schools. I was fortunate to follow his lead with a bill I introduced last year, the American History and Civics Education Act, which Senator BYRD co-sponsored. The Senate passed it unanimously last year, 91 to 0. I hope the House will act on it soon. I'm sure one reason the Senate was prepared to support such a bill is that we have all learned the value of our history from one of history's great teachers: Senator ROBERT C. BYRD . I salute my colleague, the senior Senator from West Virginia, and wish him well as he sets a new record with each succeeding vote. -Alexander - Republican QuoteMr. President, I join my colleagues today in congratulating my friend and colleague, my neighbor from West Virginia, for his great accomplishment today but, more importantly, for his great service in the Senate. When I first came to the Senate, I did what many of my colleagues have done, and that is I paid a visit to my colleague from West Virginia. I went into his historic office. He was kind enough to give me the books he has written about the Senate and was kind enough to autograph his books. Those books will always be a great treasure for me to keep. But they have not just been something that has been in my bookcase; they are something I can pull down to then read the history of the Senate. What wonderful books they are, what wonderful references, what wonderful stories they tell about the Senate. That is so because my colleague is not only a great Senator, he is a great historian. We are reminded of that many times when he comes to the Senate floor. Not only does he have a great institutional memory from his many years of the Senate, but because of his reading not only about the United States and the U.S. Senate, but because of his great love of history, he can put what we do in the United States in its historical perspective. As the new Members of the Senate, we take turns presiding over the Senate. One of the great benefits of doing that is to sit in the Presiding Officer's chair, as my colleague is doing now, and we have the opportunity to listen to our colleagues. I have had the opportunity, many times, to listen to Senator Byrd . I can remember many times listening to his speeches. Sometimes it was his great annual speech on Mother's Day, sometimes a speech on the U.S. Constitution, or a speech on whatever legislation is in front of us, or about the history of the Roman Senate or, as my colleague from Illinois has said, a speech about a pending resolution. It didn't matter what it was, it was always something for us to think about, always something for us to ponder and meditate on. Senator Byrd , thank you for your service and thank you for causing us to think. Whether we agree with you or not on every matter, you always make us think. That is the job of the Senate. As you referred a moment ago to this great deliberative body, you make sure that we are that, you make sure we continue to be that great deliberative body. I thank you for that. -Dewine - Repbulican Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #6 April 7, 2004 Those comments are off the point Kev. No One said you can't like the man because he was in the KKK. What was said was by Dodd was that during the Civil War Byrd would have made the best dissions for the country. Implying (much like Lott was accused of) that slavery was OK and so was the repression of Blacks. All these republicans said about Byrd was they liked working with him.... Many democrats said the same about Thurman. I guess I am just wondering what your point IS? Dodd did say what he said, and It was more racially charged than what Lott said of Thurman. That is just the truth... Rationalize it all you want, but it doesn't change the facts of the story. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #7 April 7, 2004 I'm not talking about what others said - I am talking about what Senator Dodd said, which was only about a billion orders of magnitude more racially charged than anything Trent Lott said (at a party, not on the Senate floor in session). None of the comments you posted infer Byrd would have been the man whose principles were right during the Civil War. Senator Lott wasn't the only one who spoke at Strom Thurmond's party either - and I still maintain his remarks there were not racist in nature. The media bias here is both obvious and irrefutable. But then again, it always has been, so that's nothing new. Please compare the coverage of this by CNN et al with their coverage of Lott's remarks. Given their respective venues, it's impossible not to notice the difference - and its implications.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #8 April 7, 2004 Your truncated quote changes the meaning of what he said. When he said he would have been "right" he was saying that he was the right person for the job, not that his views were correct. Read the whole quote. And as far as CNN's coverage, what about FOX's? Or anyone's? I could barely find anything about this on the web, in fact the only thing I found was another forum talking about it. No news sources are covering it. Maybe because it's a non-issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #9 April 7, 2004 It is on the main webpage of FOXNEWS. There is a link there for the video of the whole thing. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #10 April 7, 2004 He Philly go to www.foxnews.com go about half way dowm and click on the link next to the pic Of Byrd.... It is titled "Sound Familiar" Listen to the whole piece.... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 April 7, 2004 My mistake, didn't scroll down enough. I interpreted his comments as being about his record of 17,000 votes cast, not about which way he voted on the issues. Trent Lott's comments that were criticized, were innocent in and of them selves. The problem may be that Lott also happened to be a speaker for the Council of Conservative Citizens, an organization formed to succeed the segregationist white Citizens' Councils of the 1960s. Does Dodd belong to any such organizations? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #12 April 8, 2004 It was Lott's comments, not his membership in any organization that caused the hullaballoo. I don't think Dodd's a racist or believe that his comments in any way indicate a belief that the country would have been better off had slavery not been abolished. The issue is the obvious disparity in both media coverage and reaction in this case as contrasted with Lott's.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
