wildblue 7 #1 March 30, 2004 After work yesterday, I get out to my car and see this multiple page religious 'newspaper' stuck under my wiper. I can only assume everyone else in the garage (9 story parking garage) got the same, because they're on other cars, and one or two are littered around. Now I'm all for free speach and whatnot, but this is just stupid. This wasn't just a little one page deal, this was about 12 or 15 pages of crap. Oh, and it rained - so I'm sure the people parked on the roof were thrilled with these morons. Seriously - who are you trying to reach?! Do you really think some office worker, trudging out to his/her car at 6:00 on a Monday to find shit littered all over the garage and their car is going to suddenly find God?! It came from Alamo Minitries. I'm guessing they've had problems before - they actually have a page on their website devoted to 'legal issues' http://www.alamoministries.com/legal/index.htmlit's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #2 March 30, 2004 What's with you and Jesus spam and Jesus flyers????? Somebody is sending you a very clear message....There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #3 March 30, 2004 If God created Earth in 6 days, then he can do his own work. If he's not doing it, then he doesn't want it done. So when his followers do it, they're going against God and will burn in hell for it. Does that make you feel any better about it Seth??? Edited to add: Wanna get revenge? Make up little flyers that say "SATAN WANTS YOU" with little devil pictures (similar to what they have) and put it on everyone's car outside their church. An eye for an eye, eh? Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #4 March 30, 2004 QuoteIf God created Earth in 6 days, then he can do his own work. If he's not doing it, then he doesn't want it done. AMEN!!!! I SEE THE LIGHT!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #5 March 30, 2004 HMMMMM The Alamo Ministries. Were the papers signed by Davy Crockett???? Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #6 March 30, 2004 At least it's some stranger telling you to find God. When i came back to IL after breaking my ankle, i needed someone to drive my car home from the airport. I got a co-workers husband to do it for me. This guy has known me for years. Well he left a jesus pamphlet in my car and changed my radio stations to the religious music. When someone that knows me tells me i need jesus...well wtf is he trying to say?! ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 March 30, 2004 Both out of hand - pamphlets and changing radio stations pre-sets. It's not just religious, it's just plain unwanted advertising and wasting of our resources... Also flyers for services in the open mailbox, stuff stuck in the front door. On occasion, I'll gather this stuff up and unload it in their front yards since that's where these things end up in our neighborhood. And for mailings, of course returning them in the postage paid envelopes.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #8 March 30, 2004 Get their address, send them subscriptions to dozens of porn magazines, sex toy catalogs, and goth clothing outlets... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 March 30, 2004 QuoteGet their address, send them subscriptions to dozens of porn magazines, sex toy catalogs, and goth clothing outlets... I have done that to someone. They deserved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EDYDO 0 #10 March 30, 2004 QuoteQuoteGet their address, send them subscriptions to dozens of porn magazines, sex toy catalogs, and goth clothing outlets... I have done that to someone. They deserved it. It's easy to print an envelope to someone with "RUSH, Inflatable Doll Parts Enclosed". It adds realism if you put something with a little thickness in the envelope. I have done that too!!! Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #11 March 30, 2004 oh my... these people are NUTS! on the front page of that site: Read Pastor Alamo's Most Recent Message, entitled: IF ROME'S ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CAN MURDER YOU BEFORE YOU REACH AGE 65 BY LACING YOUR TOBACCO, FOOD, AND WATER WITH CYANIDE GAS AND RADIOACTIVE NUCLEAR WASTE, THEY WILL SAVE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR. THIS ONCE CONFIDENTIAL REPORT WILL SHOW YOU THEY ARE DOING IT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites outrager 6 #12 March 30, 2004 Yo ! A fun way to relieve jesus freak related annoyance (or any similar emotion) is to stock up on little stickers with a picture of a screw. They instantly modify "i love jesus" or "jesus saves" stickers on freak cars. Use creatively. bsbd! Yuri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #13 March 30, 2004 Well, there's nothing you can do about it. They won't get the basic concept that understanding the message has a lot to do with how it's delivered."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #14 April 5, 2004 QuoteA fun way to relieve jesus freak related annoyance (or any similar emotion) is to stock up on little stickers with a picture of a screw. They instantly modify "i love jesus" or "jesus saves" stickers on freak cars. Use creatively. Not sure I understand...www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites karenmeal 0 #15 April 5, 2004 That reminds me, you know those silver jesus fish? Have you seen the one that has the jesus fish eating the darwin fish? What on earth sort of message is that sending? If you believe in evolution Jesus will eat you?!? "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wzettler 0 #16 April 5, 2004 I think that has something to do with survival of the fittest and evolution using the Jesus fish symbol... I think when Jesus said "love your enemy" he probably meant don't kill them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #17 April 5, 2004 QuoteThat reminds me, you know those silver jesus fish? Have you seen the one that has the jesus fish eating the darwin fish? What on earth sort of message is that sending? If you believe in evolution Jesus will eat you?!? Most Christians view evolution as illogical, when viewed as a "whole" explanation for existence, and I have to agree. I think evolution to some degree is probably possible, but I also see order in the universe and think that points to a creator/designer, though I'm not quick to identify him/her/it as specifically as Christianity does. I am getting to your question, believe it or not... my point is that most evolutionists and Christians believe is ONLY one or the other and thus are at war with each other. Creationists view evolution as very illogical, and vice versa. I think the fish eating the darwin-fish is supposed to symbolize that their belief is more logical, better, superior.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #18 April 5, 2004 many Christians believe in Theistic Evolution, the idea that evolution happened, but was guided by the hand of God. The Hebrew word yom, which was used in the first known written version of Genesis, has multiple meanings. There can be two uses of the word, as a literal day, or as a figurative day for a period of time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #19 April 5, 2004 I'm not so sure that bringing order out of chaos requires or implies intelligent design. For instance . . . ever make rock candy? Take some boiling water, dissolve sugar into it. The sugar molecules are then chaotically distributed thoughout the water. Let the water evaporate and the sugar will crystalize based on chemical attactions and bondings into ordered groups. It's a simple process that requires no intelligent design. It is fairly easy to extrapolate this enitre process to the creation of life based entirely on chemical attraction.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #20 April 5, 2004 and here, you get into philosophy. is the organization of particles in the manner described a random occurance, did it just happen that way because that's the way it happens, or was the organization of particles masterminded by a being with order on its agenda? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #21 April 5, 2004 QuoteIt came from Alamo Minitries. I'm guessing they've had problems before - they actually have a page on their website devoted to 'legal issues' http://www.alamoministries.com/legal/index.html ROFL! I cruised around that site for a little while and found this. Too funny. http://www.alamoministries.com/Gospel_Messages/English/tobacco.html Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #22 April 5, 2004 It happens that way much in a similar way that magnets are attracted to each other. No intelligent design. It's simply chemistry and physics. There -is- a certain amount of randomness in impurities and mutations, but I don't see that as any proof of intelligent design either. I see few things in the universe that can't be explained by physics. The few things that can't be fully explained so far seem to happen at at scales you or I are unlikely to experience on a daily basis.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #23 April 5, 2004 But, what isn't explained is the WHY. WHY does physics work the way it does? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,107 #24 April 5, 2004 >WHY does physics work the way it does? A question we've been trying to answer for the past 10,000 years. And we are getting closer and closer to being able to answer that question. But some things (like Planck's constant) are just the way they are because they are the way they are. Other things (like the position _and_ energy of a particle) are simply unknowable. If people are looking for god out there, they're not going to find him in a heaven above the clouds or in a holy city or a book. They're going to find him in Planck's constant, an arbitrary number that means we can exist at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #25 April 5, 2004 exactly. What we discovered in my jesuit "Philosophy of Humanity" class in college was that you can explain all the "Whats" that you want... but when you start asking about the "whys" that's where you get into trouble if you try to keep philosophy and science separate. Eventually, you get to a "why" question that just plain can't be answered... the "unknowable", as you put it. And there, I think, is where we find God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 March 30, 2004 QuoteGet their address, send them subscriptions to dozens of porn magazines, sex toy catalogs, and goth clothing outlets... I have done that to someone. They deserved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDYDO 0 #10 March 30, 2004 QuoteQuoteGet their address, send them subscriptions to dozens of porn magazines, sex toy catalogs, and goth clothing outlets... I have done that to someone. They deserved it. It's easy to print an envelope to someone with "RUSH, Inflatable Doll Parts Enclosed". It adds realism if you put something with a little thickness in the envelope. I have done that too!!! Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #11 March 30, 2004 oh my... these people are NUTS! on the front page of that site: Read Pastor Alamo's Most Recent Message, entitled: IF ROME'S ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CAN MURDER YOU BEFORE YOU REACH AGE 65 BY LACING YOUR TOBACCO, FOOD, AND WATER WITH CYANIDE GAS AND RADIOACTIVE NUCLEAR WASTE, THEY WILL SAVE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR. THIS ONCE CONFIDENTIAL REPORT WILL SHOW YOU THEY ARE DOING IT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outrager 6 #12 March 30, 2004 Yo ! A fun way to relieve jesus freak related annoyance (or any similar emotion) is to stock up on little stickers with a picture of a screw. They instantly modify "i love jesus" or "jesus saves" stickers on freak cars. Use creatively. bsbd! Yuri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #13 March 30, 2004 Well, there's nothing you can do about it. They won't get the basic concept that understanding the message has a lot to do with how it's delivered."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #14 April 5, 2004 QuoteA fun way to relieve jesus freak related annoyance (or any similar emotion) is to stock up on little stickers with a picture of a screw. They instantly modify "i love jesus" or "jesus saves" stickers on freak cars. Use creatively. Not sure I understand...www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #15 April 5, 2004 That reminds me, you know those silver jesus fish? Have you seen the one that has the jesus fish eating the darwin fish? What on earth sort of message is that sending? If you believe in evolution Jesus will eat you?!? "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wzettler 0 #16 April 5, 2004 I think that has something to do with survival of the fittest and evolution using the Jesus fish symbol... I think when Jesus said "love your enemy" he probably meant don't kill them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #17 April 5, 2004 QuoteThat reminds me, you know those silver jesus fish? Have you seen the one that has the jesus fish eating the darwin fish? What on earth sort of message is that sending? If you believe in evolution Jesus will eat you?!? Most Christians view evolution as illogical, when viewed as a "whole" explanation for existence, and I have to agree. I think evolution to some degree is probably possible, but I also see order in the universe and think that points to a creator/designer, though I'm not quick to identify him/her/it as specifically as Christianity does. I am getting to your question, believe it or not... my point is that most evolutionists and Christians believe is ONLY one or the other and thus are at war with each other. Creationists view evolution as very illogical, and vice versa. I think the fish eating the darwin-fish is supposed to symbolize that their belief is more logical, better, superior.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #18 April 5, 2004 many Christians believe in Theistic Evolution, the idea that evolution happened, but was guided by the hand of God. The Hebrew word yom, which was used in the first known written version of Genesis, has multiple meanings. There can be two uses of the word, as a literal day, or as a figurative day for a period of time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #19 April 5, 2004 I'm not so sure that bringing order out of chaos requires or implies intelligent design. For instance . . . ever make rock candy? Take some boiling water, dissolve sugar into it. The sugar molecules are then chaotically distributed thoughout the water. Let the water evaporate and the sugar will crystalize based on chemical attactions and bondings into ordered groups. It's a simple process that requires no intelligent design. It is fairly easy to extrapolate this enitre process to the creation of life based entirely on chemical attraction.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #20 April 5, 2004 and here, you get into philosophy. is the organization of particles in the manner described a random occurance, did it just happen that way because that's the way it happens, or was the organization of particles masterminded by a being with order on its agenda? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #21 April 5, 2004 QuoteIt came from Alamo Minitries. I'm guessing they've had problems before - they actually have a page on their website devoted to 'legal issues' http://www.alamoministries.com/legal/index.html ROFL! I cruised around that site for a little while and found this. Too funny. http://www.alamoministries.com/Gospel_Messages/English/tobacco.html Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 April 5, 2004 It happens that way much in a similar way that magnets are attracted to each other. No intelligent design. It's simply chemistry and physics. There -is- a certain amount of randomness in impurities and mutations, but I don't see that as any proof of intelligent design either. I see few things in the universe that can't be explained by physics. The few things that can't be fully explained so far seem to happen at at scales you or I are unlikely to experience on a daily basis.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #23 April 5, 2004 But, what isn't explained is the WHY. WHY does physics work the way it does? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #24 April 5, 2004 >WHY does physics work the way it does? A question we've been trying to answer for the past 10,000 years. And we are getting closer and closer to being able to answer that question. But some things (like Planck's constant) are just the way they are because they are the way they are. Other things (like the position _and_ energy of a particle) are simply unknowable. If people are looking for god out there, they're not going to find him in a heaven above the clouds or in a holy city or a book. They're going to find him in Planck's constant, an arbitrary number that means we can exist at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #25 April 5, 2004 exactly. What we discovered in my jesuit "Philosophy of Humanity" class in college was that you can explain all the "Whats" that you want... but when you start asking about the "whys" that's where you get into trouble if you try to keep philosophy and science separate. Eventually, you get to a "why" question that just plain can't be answered... the "unknowable", as you put it. And there, I think, is where we find God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
