JohnRich 4 #1 March 5, 2004 Paraphrased from the news: An upstanding 18-year-old California high school student had a new shotgun in the cab of his pickup truck, because he was going trap shooting with it after school. School officials found out, searched his truck, and found the gun. Police were called, and the young man was arrested. He is free on $25,000 bail, has been expelled from school, and faces two felony charges for possessing a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. The Sacramento Bee: Full Story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #2 March 5, 2004 Good. I think the punishment is a little harsh, but nowadays, common sense would dictate to leave it at home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 March 5, 2004 Another one: "Jacob Finklea, 12, was expelled for bringing scissors to his sewing class... 'I put them on the desk because she said, 'Get all your supplies ready to make the pillows,' and I put the scissors on the desk and she just freaked out,' Jacob said. School officials said it is their policy to 'vigorously enforce the prohibition of weapons or assumed weapons in the possession of any individual.'" News Story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #4 March 5, 2004 If you're going to be responsible enough to carry a weapon (whether it's on you or in your vehicle), you've also got to know when and where you're allowed to carry (i.e. school grounds, hospitals, fed/state buildings). Times have certainly changed since I was that age. Penalties have gotten much stricter. I hate it for that guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #5 March 5, 2004 The kid could have been a little more attentive to his firearm. The school had to follow the rules. This is proof that zero tolerance is BS in my opinion.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 March 5, 2004 QuoteParaphrased from the news: An upstanding 18-year-old California high school student had a new shotgun in the cab of his pickup truck, because he was going trap shooting with it after school. School officials found out, searched his truck, and found the gun. Police were called, and the young man was arrested. He is free on $25,000 bail, has been expelled from school, and faces two felony charges for possessing a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. The Sacramento Bee: Full Story Kids bringing guns to school. Nah not a problem...I mean, what's the worst that could happen???? The scissors is a bit over the top - doesn't everyone know that scissors don't kill people,;people kill people? Maybe the scissors were loaded? Maybe the teacher was loaded?_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #7 March 5, 2004 QuoteAnother one: "Jacob Finklea, 12, was expelled for bringing scissors to his sewing class... 'I put them on the desk because she said, 'Get all your supplies ready to make the pillows,' and I put the scissors on the desk and she just freaked out,' Jacob said. School officials said it is their policy to 'vigorously enforce the prohibition of weapons or assumed weapons in the possession of any individual.'" News Story Now that is complete bullshit.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bertusgeert 1 #8 March 5, 2004 It is sad to see what this country is coming to. Like it was said, if you have a gun, you will have to pay attention to the rules and regs, because others are irrisponsible, you will have to be responsible. In Australia, they had a school shooting back in '96 or so. Within a year, handguns were outlawed. I'm not exactly sure what the rules are there, but I know it is highly illegal to carry handguns around. They haven't come close to seeing what America has seen, because of quick rulings that are strictly enforced. I think the police did good in this case, but the teacher shouldnt have over-reacted. There is plain common sense, and it seems a lot of Americans (and others) has lost this. --------------------------------------------- As jy dom is moet jy bloei! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 March 5, 2004 Another: A 6-year-old brought a toy cap gun to school, which he had received as a birthday gift, to show his friends. The boy was suspended from school for half a day. The principle said; "There was no intent, but any kind of toy weapon is unacceptable and can't be allowed in school." News Story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #10 March 5, 2004 QuoteAnother: A 6-year-old brought a toy cap gun to school, which he had received as a birthday gift, to show his friends. The boy was suspended from school for half a day. The principle said; "There was no intent, but any kind of toy weapon is unacceptable and can't be allowed in school." News Story Back in my day, if there was something distracting, the teacher would just take it away until the end of the day. Shheeeesh...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 March 5, 2004 Another: A 10-year-old boy (in Australia) was found on the school bus with a single bullet in his possession (no gun). Police went to the boy's home and confiscated $3,000 worth of firearms from his father, and plan to destroy the guns. News Story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #12 March 5, 2004 QuoteAn upstanding 18-year-old California high school student had a new shotgun in the cab of his pickup truck . . . Well, the kid's life might be ruined, but at least no teachers or administrators had to THINK or otherwise use their brain in handling the situation. ZT rawks! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #13 March 5, 2004 Now THAT is bullshit!!! Way over the line! I hope it never comes to that here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bertusgeert 1 #14 March 5, 2004 Hey John, no offense man, just askin. What is the point that you would like to bring out here. Its ridiculous how much stuff happens that is beyond common sense, sure. But some people break the laws, and the rest of us has to suffer. Just wondering what you would like to point out here? --------------------------------------------- As jy dom is moet jy bloei! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #15 March 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnother one: "Jacob Finklea, 12, was expelled for bringing scissors to his sewing class... 'I put them on the desk because she said, 'Get all your supplies ready to make the pillows,' and I put the scissors on the desk and she just freaked out,' Jacob said. School officials said it is their policy to 'vigorously enforce the prohibition of weapons or assumed weapons in the possession of any individual.'" News Story Now that is complete bullshit.... exactly! what's next? pencils? better not hold it wrong.... the shotgun was just stupid, but the fines are a bit excessive.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #16 March 5, 2004 Next: Three elementary school students were suspended for bringing miniature toy guns to school. Officials say no threat is too small in the post-Columbine world. "We can't blow things off, saying it's `Just a joke' or `Just a toy.'" So they try to use their best judgment to differentiate between true threats and innocent mistakes. Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 March 5, 2004 Headline: 'Zero tolerance’ turning students into ‘criminals’ A 10-year-old girl was arrested for throwing crayons, paper and other art supplies around an empty classroom... In New Jersey, two elementary school boys were arrested and charged with terrorism for playing cops and robbers with paper guns... Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #18 March 5, 2004 If a ten year old had access to one bullet, did he also have access to one gun? The parent clearly demonstrated that he didn't have enough sense to protect his kids from the weapons. When I was ten I knew where the guns were but I never had access to the bullets until I was old enough to shoot. Even then I don't think I could get at the ammo when my dad wasn't around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #19 March 5, 2004 Sounds like it's really getting out of hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #20 March 5, 2004 That's not realistic. I know, when I was a kid, I could get to my Dad's stuff. I, however, was brought up from a very young age with a knowledge and appreciation for guns. Your reasoning does not warrant the police coming into your home and confiscating all of your weapons. That is EXTREME! Good luck pulling that kind of shit off in Georgia! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsoder 0 #21 March 5, 2004 Zero tolerance = zero intelligence. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I've heard of a number of these types of cases, there was one a while back where a girl swapped lunches with her mother by accident, and her mother had a paring knife in her lunch (for an apple.) The girl found the knife, took it to her teacher, and ended up suspended for if I remember right three days. Zero tolerance means a student with her mother's paring knife in her lunch is equivalent to a gangbanger with a switchblade. Like I said, stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #22 March 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnother one: "Jacob Finklea, 12, was expelled for bringing scissors to his sewing class... 'I put them on the desk because she said, 'Get all your supplies ready to make the pillows,' and I put the scissors on the desk and she just freaked out,' Jacob said. School officials said it is their policy to 'vigorously enforce the prohibition of weapons or assumed weapons in the possession of any individual.'" News Story Now that is complete bullshit.... How about this for ZERO TOLERANCE? My daughter suffers from a tumor on her spine and was given a pretty severe pain medication for when it got really bad. Percaset or soemthing similar. She had a doctor's note for it so she would not get suspened. THis was for when it got really severe. Usually she just carried advil and took it. A teacher saw it in her purse sent her to the office and she was suspended! For Advil? Common sense has completely gone the way of the dinosaur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsoder 0 #23 March 5, 2004 QuoteUsually she just carried advil and took it. A teacher saw it in her purse sent her to the office and she was suspended! For Advil? Common sense has completely gone the way of the dinosaur. Could have been worse... they could have hit her with Intent to Distribute Pain Reliever in a Public School. I think that's 20-to-life in Federal prison now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #24 March 5, 2004 QuoteThat's not realistic. I know, when I was a kid, I could get to my Dad's stuff. I think most of the time when I was very young there was no ammo in the house. When I was old enough to shoot, it was locked in the safe. Maybe I could have gotten into the safe, but I definitely didn't have the stones to try that (shudder). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #25 March 5, 2004 I agree...that's mega stupid. Way out of control! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites