kallend 2,148 #376 September 10, 2003 Quote Are you not familiar with Islamic Jihad? Can you please tell me of the Christian equivalent to that? I would be interested in knowing. Well, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #377 September 10, 2003 I always thought that was the Pope. I may be a little hazy on how he reaches the decision and what advisors help but I pretty much thought he was the last word on the matter. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #378 September 10, 2003 QuoteWell, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition. ------------------ Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition Our first weapon is surprise....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #379 September 10, 2003 QuoteI always thought that was the Pope. I may be a little hazy on how he reaches the decision and what advisors help but I pretty much thought he was the last word on the matter. David Arbitrating the truth of your own teachings is self-referential and can, ipso facto, lead to contradictions. There's quite a lot of scholarly evidence that no small amount of skullduggery went on in the first few centuries of the Roman church, and that a certain amount of historical revisionism went into its doctrines (like the redaction of the gospels).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #380 September 10, 2003 And I'll ask again. Provide one source for ANY of the supposed facts that you've been spouting. ------------------------------------------- Lets take a quick overlook to see what what facts I have mentioned that perhaps you might disagree with. 19 Muslims hijacked the planes for the 9/11 attack (no non-muslims). Muslims were behind the U.S.S. Cole attacks, the 1993 bombing of the world trade center, Pan am flight 103, the hostages in Iran 1979, I didn't have an exact number of how many suicide bombings in Israel this month but do you also dispute that? The facts are as they remain, I do my best to never call something a fact that is not. here are some examples My opninion Reagan was the best president that ever lived. Fact: He won the cold war inspite of all the liberal oppostion. My opinion The Muslim faith is a breeding ground for terrorism. Fact More than 90% terrorism that has threatened the U.S. and Israel in the past 100 years has come from Muslims. I don't have a place I can cite for this fact. But common knowledge shows that its obvious. People like you who do not like this fact will try to spin it.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #381 September 10, 2003 WENT?! tell me this was a typo, pleeeease.namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #382 September 10, 2003 hmmm. i know we are the kinder, gentler nation, but perhaps we could try to stop fucking with them and their affairs. think thats what might be pissing them off?namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #383 September 10, 2003 Did you mention revisionist historians? I thought that was Iraq? I understand what you're saying and I agree with it but my understanding of the modern catholic curch is that the Pope has a pretty big say in what is thought true. It's been a while since I split from Catholicism so maybe times have changed and ideas are discussed more than when I was in Catholic school. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #384 September 10, 2003 Allow me: [Steel mode]You blame-America-first liberal-game-playing spin-applying anti-patriot[/Steel] You know, I wonder if Steel doesn't have a good shot at a job over with Fox News?A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #385 September 10, 2003 QuoteAllow me: [Steel mode]You blame-America-first liberal-game-playing spin-applying anti-patriot[/Steel] You know, I wonder if Steel doesn't have a good shot at a job over with Fox News? ----------------------------------------------- You know in the telecom depressed market that we are I dream of that. But then when I compare myself to I realize I don't have it in me. One thing is to understand the issues and another thing is to know what you could or can't say. Take McCarthy for intstance. Everything he said was accurate. Some stuff he said was proved instantly a lot took almost 50 years to prove. But in the end the Venona project proved that silencing him was simply the left's way of protecting themselves from being exposed. Ofcourse all the newspapers that printed inaccuracies about him have not reported their errors. Instead liberals have suceeded in creating an association with his name and dangerous witchhunt. Most people today have no idea who he was or what he did semi-educated will just echo the liberal propaganda from 50 years ago to define him. I guess my point is that I am not good at bull shit either. I only know how to say things the way they are. Most are not ready to hear the truth.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #386 September 10, 2003 QuoteFact More than 90% terrorism that has threatened the U.S. and Israel in the past 100 years has come from Muslims. I don't have a place I can cite for this fact. But common knowledge shows that its obvious. People like you who do not like this fact will try to spin it. You state a figure of 90% and claim it as fact, yet you have no source, you say it's common knowledge. Look up the definition of fact, it is not assumption. Let's look at a few of your other "facts" from this thread" QuoteBush Senior brought us sucess in Iraq but unfortunately he did not have enough in him to tell the U.N. where to go and finish the job. And I cited an interview with George Bush aired on the History Channel where he stated that the UN wanted him to proceed to Baghdad, but he bowed to pressure from the Saudis. You...incorrect assumption based on bias. Me...fact. QuoteWithout us buying their oil they would not have enough money to fund Terrorism in the first place. Please tell me where you obtained the financial documents showing the funding of terrorist organizations. Or did you assume this? QuoteThe fact in that far more Terrorist attacks that you are not aware of have been thwarted and stopped before they have occured. Do you have some inside knowledge? I mean if we're not aware of them and you are, who told you? Or are you assuming again? Or are you psychic? QuoteTo sugest that because the current administration sought out retribution for 9/11 that there is a sudden rise in terrorism is just utterly false. I and others provided numerous quotes from Bush administration officials stating the exact opposite. Who backs up your claim besides yourself? Quoteanybody with an ounce of common since knows that Saddam Hussein was onboard with Al Queda. Bush was quoted above stating the opposite of this statement. Please provide him with your secret special crystal ball where you're getting all of your information that noone, not even the president seems to have. One more time. Cite ANY source for any of your supposed facts. You can't do it, because they are creations of your paranoid bias. You keep accusing me of spin. I'm stating facts with supporting information. You're the one spouting opinions and claiming them to be fact. Who's the one spinning? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #387 September 10, 2003 damn, i feel neglected.namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #388 September 10, 2003 QuoteI only know how to say things the way they are. Most are not ready to hear the truth. So far you have given many opinions, saying that they should be obvious, but you can't find any actual proof for it. Are you actually trying to say that since you are saying it, it is the truth, but people disagree because they are not willing to hear the truth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #389 September 10, 2003 Quotespecial crystal ball where you're getting all of your information that noone, not even the president seems to have. Kev... Now you're twisting facts. It was Reagan who had crystal balls and tarrot cards, not Dubya.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #390 September 10, 2003 QuoteTake McCarthy for intstance. Everything he said was accurate. Yeah, as accurate as your statements, with no basis in fact, only paranoia. I guess the senate censured him because of his honesty and integrity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #391 September 10, 2003 Main Entry: fact Pronunciation: 'fakt Function: noun Etymology: Latin factum, from neuter of factus, past participle of facere Date: 15th century 1 : a thing done: as a obsolete : FEAT b : CRIME c archaic : ACTION 2 archaic : PERFORMANCE, DOING 3 : the quality of being actual : ACTUALITY there is a start. See fact to you might be that wrote it in a book but fact just means we know it for sure instance you might have a tree in your back yard that is tall. But you know for a fact that its shorter than the New Yorker. You haven't measured the tree and you haven't measured the New Yorker. I don't think you will find an encyclopedia that will state this. But it is still a fact read the definition. ========================== Fact More than 90% terrorism that has threatened the U.S. and Israel in the past 100 years has come from Muslims. I don't have a place I can cite for this fact. But common knowledge shows that its obvious. People like you who do not like this fact will try to spin it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You state a figure of 90% and claim it as fact, yet you have no source, you say it's common knowledge. Look up the definition of fact, it is not assumption. --------------------------------------- notice I said more than and not exactly. I gave a generous figure that I was sure about. I think it closer to 99%. I am not going to respond to every single quote because this is becoming quite tiresome.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #392 September 10, 2003 QuoteQuoteTake McCarthy for intstance. Everything he said was accurate. Yeah, as accurate as your statements, with no basis in fact, only paranoia. I guess the senate censured him because of his honesty and integrity. -------------------------- what about the fact that everybody he said was a Soviet spie was later proven to be. I guess he was just paranoid right?If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #393 September 10, 2003 Quote Fact More than 90% terrorism that has threatened the U.S. and Israel in the past 100 years has come from Muslims. I don't have a place I can cite for this fact. But common knowledge shows that its obvious. People like you who do not like this fact will try to spin it. Timothy McVeigh? Charles Whitman? Eric Harris/Dylan Kleybold? Theodore Kaczynski? You probably think these people weren't "terrorists" just because they weren't Muslim, right? Does torching churches in the South count as terrorism? Burning crosses in people's yards? I'd say the primary goal of those activities is fear. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #394 September 10, 2003 Quotenotice I said more than and not exactly. I gave a generous figure that I was sure about. I think it closer to 99%. I am not going to respond to every single quote because this is becoming quite tiresome. Ok...respond to this one. Provide a source for that figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #395 September 10, 2003 QuoteTake McCarthy for intstance. Everything he said was accurate. Some stuff he said was proved instantly a lot took almost 50 years to prove. But in the end the Venona project proved that silencing him was simply the left's way of protecting themselves from being exposed. I am heartened to find out you've merely been trolling in this thread. I'll admit it, you got me. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #396 September 10, 2003 Quote It says it right there in your post: Quote You have to provide evidence to claim things as fact. You just saying it is true is not teh same as providing evidence. In your tree example evidence would be to rpovide the actual measurements of each true. Only then can you factually state that one tree is taller than the other one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #397 September 10, 2003 QuoteQuotenotice I said more than and not exactly. I gave a generous figure that I was sure about. I think it closer to 99%. I am not going to respond to every single quote because this is becoming quite tiresome. Ok...respond to this one. Provide a source for that figure. here is one in Jersey 2002. With 62 people indicted last year in cases it is calling "international terrorism," the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey was the busiest in the nation in rounding up people who are allegedly a threat to this country. But 60 of those people were Middle Eastern students charged with paying others to take their English proficiency tests - a requirement for college or graduate school - an Inquirer review has found. Federal judges have freed nearly all the students on bond.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #399 September 10, 2003 Pssst. Israel was only founded in 1947 Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #400 September 10, 2003 Quote I am not going to respond to every single quote because this is becoming quite tiresome. i'll bet. especially since some of the boys around here decided to stop your bullshit in its tracks. go team. edit cuz i cant stop, cant stop QuoteI don't have a place I can cite for this fact. But common knowledge shows that its obvious. People like you who do not like this fact will try to spin it. sorry i missed that lecture, faulty logic 101.....namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
