phoenixlpr 0 #26 February 9, 2007 Quote Did you friend check the canopy and do a controllability check after opening, or did he only check it when "he noticed he was going down too fast"? Can you tell me what is your rate of decent under canopy? How would you notice that you going down with 2-3 times faster than you used to? I could not asnwer these questions before I have stared using a Neptune. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #27 February 9, 2007 Quote Can you tell me what is your rate of decent under canopy? How would you notice that you going down with 2-3 times faster than you used to? I could not answer these questions before I have stared using a Neptune. Is that a rhetorical question? Or are you just being argumentative?? A canopy doesn't normally triple its descent rate without having some sort of a structural problem!!! Look up at your canopy once you are out of a collision course with other jumpers!!! Do controllability check, they taught us that in the FJC for a reason!! The jumper described above had multiple broken lines!! He might have missed them visually, but a practice flare or two would have made the problem clear. A jumper doesn't need to know the exact rate that their canopy descends at, but they should know how their canopy feels when it flares and flies."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #28 February 9, 2007 Quote My 6 yr old son likes to play this game. Him: What if there is a fire Me: Get out. Him: What if the door is blocked Me: Use the window Him: What if the window is 50 feet up Me: Maybe you could PLF Him: What if there is a monster on the ground waiting for me Me: Try to land on him Him: What if there are two monsters lolRodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #29 February 9, 2007 Quote How would you notice that you going down with 2-3 times faster than you used to? I could not asnwer these questions before I have stared using a Neptune. Back in the good old days, before we had electronic gizmos, we used something called "the spit test". Work up a gob of saliva in your mouth and spit it out. If the spit goes "up" relative to your parachute ride, then your canopy is descending too fast to land safely. On the other hand, if the spit goes "down" away from you, then you're okay. Ram-air parachutes make this spit test a little more difficult because of the forward speed - it's real easy just to spit on yourself. So do it off to the side. You don't need no steenkin' electronics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #30 February 9, 2007 Quote My 6 yr old son likes to play this game. Him: What if there is a fire Me: Get out. Him: What if the door is blocked Me: Use the window Him: What if the window is 50 feet up Me: Maybe you could PLF Him: What if there is a monster on the ground waiting for me Me: Try to land on him Him: What if there are two monsters You left us hanging there. So what do we do if the house is on fire, the door is blocked, the window is fifty feet up, and there are two monsters down below? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #31 February 9, 2007 Quote Quote Did you friend check the canopy and do a controllability check after opening, or did he only check it when "he noticed he was going down too fast"? Can you tell me what is your rate of decent under canopy? Huh? It was the post that I responded to, that mentioned the guy noticed the problem when he saw he was going down too fast (which is why I had that bit in quotation marks). So why don't you ask him? I was only wondering if a control check had been at the appropriate time.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #32 February 9, 2007 Autoset - IDENTIFY YOURSELF, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Your questions tend to be filled with "What if?" scenarios. I understand, as do we all, how your mind can be filled with all the possible ways this sport can kill you. These questions should first be directed to your instructors at your home dropzone. No one here really wants to be responsible for you burning in, and the way you ask some questions, you are setting yourself up to get an irresponible reply. What you are asking about here is a matter of priority. Simply put, you don't EVER deliberately try to land a malfunctioned main - that's what your reserve is for. If you have a lot of trouble making tough decidions under a lot of pressure, you may want to reconsider getting involved in skydiving. There is no way to prepare for what you don't know you don't know. You know? If, on the other hand, you are determined to overcome your fears and doubts, I'd recommend you start with a tandem jump. If you are too wrapped up in the "what if's" you will never have fun, though. Would you please fill out your profile? I'm not trying to attack you, but I'm starting to think you might be a troll for the FAA, or some reporter, and you should know you are developing a reputation for being a shit-stirrer. None of this is meant to be an attack, so please don't take it as such. Since your profile isn't filled out, it could be said that you don't exist yet, and someone who isn't really here can't really be attacked, right? Good luck. Go jump. Edited to add: By the way, read this: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1448166;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unreadT.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #33 February 9, 2007 >Would it be a good idea to pull reserve and have 2 canopies out to help slow you down? If your main is in a condition that will not land you survivably, and you cannot recover it, and you are too low to safely cut away - then yes, the reserve might be a good option. There is a very good chance that it will just make things worse, but if you're going to die anyway, it's worth a shot. Needless to say, a good decision at 1800 feet or higher will remove the need to make a bad decision at 300 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnYourBack 0 #34 February 9, 2007 Quote You left us hanging there. So what do we do if the house is on fire, the door is blocked, the window is fifty feet up, and there are two monsters down below? Throw your sister on one of them, while the other monster is eating her, try to land on him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
