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Out of curiosity... Have you tried it when skydiving?



Have you ever identified anyone above you when you've used it?



From your question it is evident you have not tried it.

Imagine a whuffo telling your altimeter is useless because it is impossible you see the numbers when you are falling down at 120 mph.

If this is a similar case, I give up :S ... but I will keep using it :)
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Altimeters can be seen just by looking back at your hand when you track. Where do you put the mirror to see above you?



Please see the picture I posted along with the explanation on how to use it. You are not supposed to use the mirror while tracking. You use it right before pulling.
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Altimeters can be seen just by looking back at your hand when you track. Where do you put the mirror to see above you?



Please see the picture I posted along with the explanation on how to use it. You are not supposed to use the mirror while tracking. You use it right before pulling.



I never stop tracking before pulling. Kinda hard to look in the mirror that way ;)
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Out of curiosity... Have you tried it when skydiving?



Have you ever identified anyone above you when you've used it?



From your question it is evident you have not tried it.



You are correct, you're the only one that I've ever heard of using it. I'm wondering if it ever showed someone to you?
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Altimeters can be seen just by looking back at your hand when you track. Where do you put the mirror to see above you?



Please see the picture I posted along with the explanation on how to use it. You are not supposed to use the mirror while tracking. You use it right before pulling.



OK, for the sake of argument lets say that you use a wrist mounted mirror exactly as you describe - you track away from a formation, flare out of your track, check your mirror and then see someone above you...

What then?

You've already stopped tracking. You've now limited your options - the primary one is now sucking it low. Way to go! [:/]

You will not be able to get back into an effective track and avoid someone simply because you need time and distance to build up the speed to do so.

Seriously, I'm curious what you think you'll do if you see someone above you in your wrist-mirror at 2500ft?

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Altimeters can be seen just by looking back at your hand when you track. Where do you put the mirror to see above you?



Please see the picture I posted along with the explanation on how to use it. You are not supposed to use the mirror while tracking. You use it right before pulling.



I never stop tracking before pulling. Kinda hard to look in the mirror that way ;)



This idea and I get along. Track hard and pull.

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Altimeters can be seen just by looking back at your hand when you track. Where do you put the mirror to see above you?



Please see the picture I posted along with the explanation on how to use it. You are not supposed to use the mirror while tracking. You use it right before pulling.



I never stop tracking before pulling. Kinda hard to look in the mirror that way ;)



Don't you "wave off"?
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Altimeters can be seen just by looking back at your hand when you track. Where do you put the mirror to see above you?



Please see the picture I posted along with the explanation on how to use it. You are not supposed to use the mirror while tracking. You use it right before pulling.



I never stop tracking before pulling. Kinda hard to look in the mirror that way ;)



Don't you "wave off"?



Just roll over to see if anyone is above you and the need for a wave off is taken care of.

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>Just roll over to see if anyone is above you and the need for a wave off is taken care of.

This is absolutely untrue, and is a very dangerous piece of advice to give. Waveoff isn't for you - it's for the people near you (who may not even be above you yet) to tell them you are about to pull. I don't care how good a barrel roller you think you are - you're still not going to see someone at your six o'clock just above you.

A waveoff is essential before the pull to warn other jumpers that they are about to see your canopy.

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I knew that was coming. The pilot chute usually gets tossed unannounced without regard to what's around me. Poof! I'm a hazard if you ask me. ;)

Note the emoticon to indicate that was not a serious response.

Of course I do. If people are anywhere near me they know I'm pulling.

And now back to the mirror Bob!
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>Just roll over to see if anyone is above you and the need for a wave off is taken care of.

This is absolutely untrue, and is a very dangerous piece of advice to give. Waveoff isn't for you - it's for the people near you (who may not even be above you yet) to tell them you are about to pull. I don't care how good a barrel roller you think you are - you're still not going to see someone at your six o'clock just above you.

A waveoff is essential before the pull to warn other jumpers that they are about to see your canopy.



*sigh* there's always one...

Well, quite frankly, that advice is to weed out the slow swimmers. If anyone actually believed that, please, sell your gear to someone with a clue and get the hell out of the sport. I was wondering who would be first to bite.

Oh well, I think with all the talk of mirrors and such in this thread, I am going to have to leave before the insanity just gets too much for me and I start trolling the morons we have here.

Barrel roll or not, just don't fucking kill me.

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>If anyone actually believed that, please, sell your gear to
>someone with a clue and get the hell out of the sport.

From PM's I've received, people DO believe things like that. I got a PM recently asking me if it was true that everyone in the 400-way was required to barrel roll before pulling, and should they be practicing that. So I am very careful nowadays to identify what's bad/sarcastic advice.

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A waveoff is essential before the pull to warn other jumpers that they are about to see your canopy



Or to tell those on the ground to get out of my landing area.;)

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From PM's I've received, people DO believe things like that. I got a PM recently asking me if it was true that everyone in the 400-way was required to barrel roll before pulling, and should they be practicing that.



I got a bad case of cramps from laughing to much. You should have said yes, but they have to attend a big way barrel roll camp.:P
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I never stop tracking before pulling;)

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The new lines are not too expensive. That is up too you, but there are people here using old rented big canopies

edited to add: Seriously: I think you are unsafe here. I really do not care how you open your canopy because you do not jump with us (hope so)


If you are used to opening that way the jumpers before you would need mirrors to spot you. Otherwise they would end up with torticollis
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This is where I actually have to say you don't know what you're talking about.

I jump primarily in Byron California and invite you to join me for a day of free coaching. Just let me know when you can make it.

Edit: I mean no disrepect by the way and I'm serious about the invitation.

Cheers
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This is where I actually have to say you don't know what you're talking about.

I jump primarily in Byron California and invite you to join me for a day of free coaching. Just let me know when you can make it.

Edit: I mean no disrepect by the way and I'm serious about the invitation.

Cheers



What could you possibly teach him?

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This is where I actually have to say you don't know what you're talking about.

I jump primarily in Byron California and invite you to join me for a day of free coaching. Just let me know when you can make it.

Edit: I mean no disrepect by the way and I'm serious about the invitation.

Cheers



Thank you! :)
But I am afraid I do not know what are you talking about because you did not quote what I said :(
Gonzalo

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So I am very careful nowadays to identify what's bad/sarcastic advice.



Here's some advice for people. Stop taking advice from DZ.com period. It's assisting this sport to the mindless level of those that can only eat pudding in padded rooms with plastic spoons.
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Here's some advice for people. Stop taking advice from DZ.com period. It's assisting this sport to the mindless level of those that can only eat pudding in padded rooms with plastic spoons.



I've been watching and smiling while this thread has played out, but this last statement is this first one I've been compelled to respond to because now I have a dilemma.

"Stop taking advice from DZ.com period."

If I take you advice I have to not take your advice.... :S

Reminds me of an old StarTrek episode when Spock confused an android. B| Edit: It might have been Kirk - memory fades, I am 50 you know.

Just in case anyone wants to know: I don't do barrel rolls, I don't use a mirror, and I track like my life depends on it because it does:P
"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

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