Jessica 0 #1 March 29, 2001 I've got a good friend, better skydiver than me, who wants to borrow my rig for a few days while she jumps at an tandem dropzone in Mexico with no gear rentals (they'll sell you a slot on the Cessna if you have your own stuff). She's offered to pay for my Cypres 4-year check in exchange.The idea makes me really nervous, but on the other hand I trust her, like the idea of someone else paying that $200, and think my rig would have a good time in Mexico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkySlut 0 #2 March 29, 2001 What are you nervous about??? If you trust your friend, nothing should happen to it right??? If something happens to your rig...it sounds like your friend is honest enough to compensate you for it. If you are nervous about someone else jumping your rig (bad mojo type of thing), I would worry about it...if you are afraid that the rig may not be safe for your good friend then you shouldnt be jumping it either. I would just recommend that your friend knows the rig and all its little idiosynchrasies. A Base jumper got killed because they were jumping borrowed gear and couldnt find the handle...just a suggestion. Let em borrow it."I'll jump anything!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diver123 0 #3 March 29, 2001 If she's a friend, then what's the big deal? I understand the investment that goes into a rig, but if you trust her then I think you should go with it. I've personally been able to borrow quite a few different rigs from friends and have done the same for them once I purchased my own. The usual agreement is to pay for what you use/break... reserve ripcord, re-pack, cleaning of container if you soak it in the pond... "pull high! It's lower than you think..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jessica 0 #4 March 29, 2001 QuoteWhat are you nervous about??? Letting something that cost more than my first automobile out of my sight for a week. QuoteIf you are nervous about someone else jumping your rig (bad mojo type of thing), I would worry about it...Nah, it's not that. She jumps it all the time when I'm grounded because of the wind or whatever. No problem there.Quoteif you are afraid that the rig may not be safe for your good friend then you shouldnt be jumping it either. No way! My baby is GOOD TO GO!!Thanks for the comments. Those are really good points. I'm leaning toward yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkySlut 0 #5 March 29, 2001 Thats what i figured you were getting at...some people are just superstitious about their rigs you know??? i.e. "if" something should happen to my friend on my rig...that is what i was wondering about. I would go for it, that is of course unless you are using it!!!"I'll jump anything!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greg 0 #6 March 29, 2001 I would lend it out as long as you are not going to need it. Personally, I have lent my gear to friends when I was not using it quite a few times. The way I see it, if I cant jump, at least my baby (rig) can! I just did my Cypres four year, its expensive, I would suggest taking advantage of the offer. Blue ones!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #7 March 29, 2001 I see both sides but I think I would lend it to her. Quite a few times at my home DZ when someone would have a reserve ride and they'd still want to jump more that day then a jumper who wasn't jumping that day would lend them their rig. Also, a lot of times jumpers lend each other their canopies to try out when they want to try a different kind/size. I wouldn't loan mine out to just anyone but a good friend, I would. On the other hand, I see your other point. My rig is my baby and it'd be REALLY hard to let go of even if just for a few days. And the guilt if something happened to that person on *my* rig would be difficult as well but that you just have to accept b/c that kind of stuff can happen on ANY rig. I'd go for the loan, espcially when she's willing to pay for your cypress check. Nice deal!Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Iflyme 0 #8 March 29, 2001 Jessica, I'd lend my gear to a friend... especially in exchange for the cypres service! Of course you will want to agree on the condition that if anything happens to your gear...Frank Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freaksister 0 #9 March 29, 2001 Jessica,Well you know I have a brand new rig which I just bought in September of last year...I will let people borrow it if I am present. I would really have to trust someone to let them borrow it if they were going on a trip or leaving the country! One of the reasons I say this is because it could get stolen or lost. This may not be the person's fault, but still, there goes my rig! There ARE certain people who I would give permission to take it to Mexico or somewhere like that, you and Heather are examples. This probably doesn't apply to you since she has already jumped your rig, but something I always consider is wing loading, and also the person's skill at landings. If anybody is going to get grass and mud all over my new baby, its going to be ME. LOL Are you not going to be jumping while she is gone? Anyway, you will probably be fine. The Cypres check is a real bonus for you!! Maybe in three years when my Cypres needs it I will remember that!!Blue Skies and Big Hugs,Sisps - nobody liked my post about boring posts, huh? ya'll are too sensitive, LOL!!!!! "What we're all really seeking is something where we can feel the rapture of being alive."J.Campbell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #10 March 29, 2001 Hey Jessica,The Frankenrig is available for rent and/or borrow. I've offered others, but they seem to be afraid. JKA has free rent as she is constructing the new Shark web....BTW, I'd only *lend* it out at my dz while I'm there. It wouldn't leave the country unless I'm strapped to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloud9 0 #11 March 30, 2001 Loaning rigs is common practice amoungst skydivers. I have loaned mine and have been able to take advantage of trying canopies and containers that I may never have been able to jump. However on a selfish note. What if your friend gets put in jail or the hospital or even (heaven forbid) killed. How are you going to get your rig back?Food for thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jayhfx 0 #12 March 30, 2001 i tended to lend out my gear alot because others had done the same for me at times. One time i lent it to a guy who I knew and he proceeded to open low which caused his reserve to fire as well. Square main, round reserve side by side which caused a semi-major downplane. He didn't cutaway the main and rode them both into the trees. I wasen't upset as he was okay,the gear seemed fine and he did pay for inspection, repairs, and the repack. I was upset though that I couldn't jump my own rig while it was getting serviced for quite sometime. Major pain!! I since don't lend out my gear as its new and dammit I'm selfish!!!On the other hand if it was a friend, they asked nicely, and I trusted them, what the hell, take it!!!! lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BarrettJ99 0 #13 March 30, 2001 Shark,The more people that see the frankenrig, the more the fear will grow... I would and have lent my rig out to people I trust implicitly, but I would have to be somewhere on the DZ when they're using it. -T1C-30757 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jessica 0 #14 March 30, 2001 QuoteWhat if your friend gets put in jail or the hospital or even (heaven forbid) killed. How are you going to get your rig back?Jeez, good point, but that's really heavy. I guess it's a calculated risk, just like skydiving.OKAY, I have decided to lend her the rig. I think. The deciding factor, I think, is the thought of my baby getting to vacation in Mexico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #15 April 1, 2001 Hey Jessica,Lend you rpal your rig & forget about her paying the 4 year check!All she's gotta do is buy a gear bag big enough for your rig and accesories (the accessories being you, a heater and 6 hours supply of aviation oxygen.Mike D10270. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydognz 0 #16 April 1, 2001 I'm a skydiver, who, due to money, can't afford my own gear personally either. But thanks to fellow skydivers who know me and my attention to safety and details - especially packing a rig - One particular firend has lent me his for the next year or so. All I had to do, was write a quick insurance policy on a piece of paper, which, in the event of damage or loss of his rig, I'd pay for it! In the end, it's trust and knowing what your firend is capable of under your canopy and making sure you can justify that she can handle it's performance. In the end though babe, if you're still not sure????....Dead right!..Don't lend it! She'll be abit put off by not having the gear, but can't hold a grudge against you ..for being safe. Blue skies...Stitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jessica 0 #17 April 3, 2001 Thanks everyone! My rig is on its way to Mexico! I love the thought of my gaudy pink and magenta and blue canopy flying over the beach. I really appreciate all the thoughts. I guess it just came down to whether I trusted her or not -- and I absolutely do.Also, I look at skydiving as a fraternity, and if my girl wants to skydive and doesn't own gear, and I have gear I can lend her, well, what the hell. I told her not to try water landings this go around, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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SkySlut 0 #2 March 29, 2001 What are you nervous about??? If you trust your friend, nothing should happen to it right??? If something happens to your rig...it sounds like your friend is honest enough to compensate you for it. If you are nervous about someone else jumping your rig (bad mojo type of thing), I would worry about it...if you are afraid that the rig may not be safe for your good friend then you shouldnt be jumping it either. I would just recommend that your friend knows the rig and all its little idiosynchrasies. A Base jumper got killed because they were jumping borrowed gear and couldnt find the handle...just a suggestion. Let em borrow it."I'll jump anything!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diver123 0 #3 March 29, 2001 If she's a friend, then what's the big deal? I understand the investment that goes into a rig, but if you trust her then I think you should go with it. I've personally been able to borrow quite a few different rigs from friends and have done the same for them once I purchased my own. The usual agreement is to pay for what you use/break... reserve ripcord, re-pack, cleaning of container if you soak it in the pond... "pull high! It's lower than you think..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #4 March 29, 2001 QuoteWhat are you nervous about??? Letting something that cost more than my first automobile out of my sight for a week. QuoteIf you are nervous about someone else jumping your rig (bad mojo type of thing), I would worry about it...Nah, it's not that. She jumps it all the time when I'm grounded because of the wind or whatever. No problem there.Quoteif you are afraid that the rig may not be safe for your good friend then you shouldnt be jumping it either. No way! My baby is GOOD TO GO!!Thanks for the comments. Those are really good points. I'm leaning toward yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #5 March 29, 2001 Thats what i figured you were getting at...some people are just superstitious about their rigs you know??? i.e. "if" something should happen to my friend on my rig...that is what i was wondering about. I would go for it, that is of course unless you are using it!!!"I'll jump anything!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg 0 #6 March 29, 2001 I would lend it out as long as you are not going to need it. Personally, I have lent my gear to friends when I was not using it quite a few times. The way I see it, if I cant jump, at least my baby (rig) can! I just did my Cypres four year, its expensive, I would suggest taking advantage of the offer. Blue ones!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #7 March 29, 2001 I see both sides but I think I would lend it to her. Quite a few times at my home DZ when someone would have a reserve ride and they'd still want to jump more that day then a jumper who wasn't jumping that day would lend them their rig. Also, a lot of times jumpers lend each other their canopies to try out when they want to try a different kind/size. I wouldn't loan mine out to just anyone but a good friend, I would. On the other hand, I see your other point. My rig is my baby and it'd be REALLY hard to let go of even if just for a few days. And the guilt if something happened to that person on *my* rig would be difficult as well but that you just have to accept b/c that kind of stuff can happen on ANY rig. I'd go for the loan, espcially when she's willing to pay for your cypress check. Nice deal!Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #8 March 29, 2001 Jessica, I'd lend my gear to a friend... especially in exchange for the cypres service! Of course you will want to agree on the condition that if anything happens to your gear...Frank Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaksister 0 #9 March 29, 2001 Jessica,Well you know I have a brand new rig which I just bought in September of last year...I will let people borrow it if I am present. I would really have to trust someone to let them borrow it if they were going on a trip or leaving the country! One of the reasons I say this is because it could get stolen or lost. This may not be the person's fault, but still, there goes my rig! There ARE certain people who I would give permission to take it to Mexico or somewhere like that, you and Heather are examples. This probably doesn't apply to you since she has already jumped your rig, but something I always consider is wing loading, and also the person's skill at landings. If anybody is going to get grass and mud all over my new baby, its going to be ME. LOL Are you not going to be jumping while she is gone? Anyway, you will probably be fine. The Cypres check is a real bonus for you!! Maybe in three years when my Cypres needs it I will remember that!!Blue Skies and Big Hugs,Sisps - nobody liked my post about boring posts, huh? ya'll are too sensitive, LOL!!!!! "What we're all really seeking is something where we can feel the rapture of being alive."J.Campbell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #10 March 29, 2001 Hey Jessica,The Frankenrig is available for rent and/or borrow. I've offered others, but they seem to be afraid. JKA has free rent as she is constructing the new Shark web....BTW, I'd only *lend* it out at my dz while I'm there. It wouldn't leave the country unless I'm strapped to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #11 March 30, 2001 Loaning rigs is common practice amoungst skydivers. I have loaned mine and have been able to take advantage of trying canopies and containers that I may never have been able to jump. However on a selfish note. What if your friend gets put in jail or the hospital or even (heaven forbid) killed. How are you going to get your rig back?Food for thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jayhfx 0 #12 March 30, 2001 i tended to lend out my gear alot because others had done the same for me at times. One time i lent it to a guy who I knew and he proceeded to open low which caused his reserve to fire as well. Square main, round reserve side by side which caused a semi-major downplane. He didn't cutaway the main and rode them both into the trees. I wasen't upset as he was okay,the gear seemed fine and he did pay for inspection, repairs, and the repack. I was upset though that I couldn't jump my own rig while it was getting serviced for quite sometime. Major pain!! I since don't lend out my gear as its new and dammit I'm selfish!!!On the other hand if it was a friend, they asked nicely, and I trusted them, what the hell, take it!!!! lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarrettJ99 0 #13 March 30, 2001 Shark,The more people that see the frankenrig, the more the fear will grow... I would and have lent my rig out to people I trust implicitly, but I would have to be somewhere on the DZ when they're using it. -T1C-30757 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #14 March 30, 2001 QuoteWhat if your friend gets put in jail or the hospital or even (heaven forbid) killed. How are you going to get your rig back?Jeez, good point, but that's really heavy. I guess it's a calculated risk, just like skydiving.OKAY, I have decided to lend her the rig. I think. The deciding factor, I think, is the thought of my baby getting to vacation in Mexico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #15 April 1, 2001 Hey Jessica,Lend you rpal your rig & forget about her paying the 4 year check!All she's gotta do is buy a gear bag big enough for your rig and accesories (the accessories being you, a heater and 6 hours supply of aviation oxygen.Mike D10270. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydognz 0 #16 April 1, 2001 I'm a skydiver, who, due to money, can't afford my own gear personally either. But thanks to fellow skydivers who know me and my attention to safety and details - especially packing a rig - One particular firend has lent me his for the next year or so. All I had to do, was write a quick insurance policy on a piece of paper, which, in the event of damage or loss of his rig, I'd pay for it! In the end, it's trust and knowing what your firend is capable of under your canopy and making sure you can justify that she can handle it's performance. In the end though babe, if you're still not sure????....Dead right!..Don't lend it! She'll be abit put off by not having the gear, but can't hold a grudge against you ..for being safe. Blue skies...Stitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #17 April 3, 2001 Thanks everyone! My rig is on its way to Mexico! I love the thought of my gaudy pink and magenta and blue canopy flying over the beach. I really appreciate all the thoughts. I guess it just came down to whether I trusted her or not -- and I absolutely do.Also, I look at skydiving as a fraternity, and if my girl wants to skydive and doesn't own gear, and I have gear I can lend her, well, what the hell. I told her not to try water landings this go around, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
