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Pammi

Jump pilot and skydivers?

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Think this might've been a jump pilot and some skydivers? LOL! Sounds like something they might do! (Got this with some other "Darwin Awards")
Three Brazilian men were flying in a light aircraft at low altitude when another plane approached. It appears that they decided to moon the occupants of the other plane, but lost control of their own aircraft and crashed. They were all found dead in the wreckage with their pants around their ankles.
Pammi

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Oh my god....I could just imagine what my parents would think hearing that had happened to me. And my poor grandmother. She'd probably have a heartattack hearing I'd died with my pants around my ankles. I'd much rather die respectfully...or better yet not ever die but I doubt I'll get much choice in the matter. :)Wesley
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Hey Diva...I have a hunch that they were laughing at the time of impact. They were probably scrambling in a frantic mad rush trying to get their pants on, rigs on, and out the door! But, hey, maybe they WERE still laughing and didn't even notice:) Hehehe
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There's an old saying "If it happens to me, it's tragedy. If it happens to you, it's comedy."
Y'all have to check out the Darwin Awards site if you never had. I bop in from time to time and it never ceases to amaze me the stupid ways people do themselves in. I especially like the guys who did the "manly" contest and the "winner" cut off his own head with a chainsaw.
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Zennie

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Here's that story I was talking about :o
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Macho Men?
1996 Darwin Awards Winner
(1996) Some men will got to extraordinary lengths to prove how macho they are. Frenchman Pierre Pumpille recently shunted a stationary car two feet by headbutting it. "Women thought I was a god," he explained from his hospital bed.
Deity or not, however, Pumpille is a veritable girl's blouse compared to Polish farmer Krystof Azninski, who staked a strong claim to being Europe's most macho man by cutting off his own head in 1995. Azninski, 30, had been drinking with friends when it was suggested they strip naked and play some "men's games". Initially they hit each other over the head with frozen turnips, but then one man upped the ante by seizing a chainsaw and cutting off the end of his foot. Not to be outdone, Azninski grabbed the saw and, shouting "Watch this then," he swung at his own head and chopped it off.
"It's funny," said one companion, "when he was young he put on his sister's underwear. But he died like a man."

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Zennie

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"It's funny," said one companion, "when he was young he put on his sister's underwear. But he died like a man."

When I die I hope I never have a friend that says something like this. Of course, I doubt I'll ever chop my own head off though...
Wesley
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Zennie
I used to think the Darwin awards were hilarious as well. So I bought Wendy Northcutt's book 'The Darwin Awards'. Then I read as far as p. 136. Guess who this stupid bitch awards a Darwin Award to? Jan Davis (the base jumper not the cameraflyer). What really annoyed me is that she gives Tom Sanders an honourable mention as well. For those of you who think an honourable mention is a good thing, well in the Darwin Awards context it means you are almost stupid enough to kill yourself and do the human species a favour, but not quite. Why did she give Tom Sanders an honourable mention? Because (and I quote) : "Her husband reportedly vowed to continue the protest against Yosemite's BASE-jumping ban, thus qualifying him for an Honourable Mention".
Sorry dude, but I am sorry I bought her book, and as much pleasure as I used to get from her site, I won't visit it again. I don't think awarding Tom Sanders a Darwin Awards Honourable Mention was a very nice thing to do...
Will

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Darwin Awards rock all. I frequently check in on the forums there. They have a lot of good conversations. Theres a lot of quantum physics stuff for you fellow lovers of quantum physics. I wish I knew more about it but its too much math for me. Maybe some day. Sorry for changing the subject.
Safe landings,
Alex D-23912

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I'm not saying Jan's death is a laughing matter, or that going in BASE jumping automatically qualifies one for a Darwin Award, but if you know the circumstances behind that accident, you'd have to at least agree that if people had used their heads it wouldn't have happened.
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Zennie

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Zennie, I completely agree. I don't know where the whole head cutting off thing came from but Jan's death was totally avoidable. Its a great example as to why you should not change your pilot chute location very much, ESPECIALLY ON A BASE JUMP!! Not wanting to sacrifice a safe rig over to authorities is not a good excuse for sacrificing your safety by jumping an unfamiliar rig. It was a tragic mistake that will hopefully never happen again.
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Alex D-23912

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Yeah, that's pretty much what happened (based on all the other accounts I've read).
The protest was pre-arranged with park authorities. The park authorities figured it would be safer to do it in a constrolled manner, so the agreement was the jumpers would land in a predetermined area, where they would surrender their rig and allow themselves to be arrested. She didn't want to lose her main BASE rig to the authorities so she borrowed someone else's. Her rig was a BOC and the borrowed rig was an ROL.
Would I prefer that this not be in the Darwin Awards page? Definitely. Do I see why it made it there? Sort of.
I mean, whuffos think we're crazy as it stands. And BASE jumpers are in an entirely different league from a whuffo standpoint. So if we skydivers go "Well, that wasn't very bright", you can only imagine what whuffos think. :P
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Zennie

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Hi there,
Personally I think the Darwin Awards get the pitch of their stories about right. While that perticular BASE fatality was tragic in the obvious sense... There is some dark homor in this happening during a "BASE safety" demo:S. I don't see that they were laughing at the fatality, more at the timing.
BTW anyone else read about the philipino skyjacker, the grenade & the home made parachute:D!?
Mike D10270.

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but if you know the circumstances behind that accident, you'd have to at least agree that if people had used their heads it wouldn't have happened.

Zennie, I do agree with you and Mike about the jump itself.
However I still think don't think it was necessary to award Tom Sanders an honourable mention. How would you feel if you had watched your wife die and then maybe found out that people all over the world thought you were worthy of a Darwin Awards honourable mention?
Man, I like black humour as much as the next guy (no South African jibes from you on that one Mike!;)), but I think including the husband in that award was wrong. You guys keep harping on about the jump itself, that is not my point. My point is that including Tom Sanders in the article and giving him an honourable mention was insensitive and inconsiderate. How would he feel if he were to read that article? I for one sincerely hope he never reads it!
There are lots of people who drive without their seatbelts and with their airbags disconnected. Why don't they ALL get Darwin Awards if they die in an accident? They have willingly chosen not to use the two safety features that could save their lives. But if I didn't turn on my cypres and jumped with a faulty altimeter, and then burnt in, I suppose I would qualify for a Darwin Award... I personally think that most people have pretty screwed up perceptions of death and feel that it is *OK* to die in a socially accepted manner, but heaven forbid dying trapped in a crippled submarine or in a skydiving accident. But I suppose it also ties into fears like claustrophobia and vertigo, so I'll stop now before I meander any further...
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Will

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