Deleted 0 #1 May 3, 2001 Has anybody ever learned:1. How to identify that a reserve has opened through the main risers?2. If this happens and the main goes bad whether or not to cut away?3. If so, what level of training did you learn this?Thank you for your input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #2 May 3, 2001 Well1. that would suck2. If it hapened the reserve would probably be in front-in a biplane anyway, and in theory I guess a cutaway would work, assuming there is nothing else in the way that would wanna choke off the reserve.Seems to me you would have a better chance of clearing the main with it being in the back, as opposed to the main in the front in a biplane.3. I've never really thought about that exact scenario-thanks for bringing it up, but I learned about two canopies out situations when I had an A license.Please someone correct me if I am wrong-LOLD.Chisolm C-28534webmaster@sunraydesigns.comhttp://www.sunraydesigns.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted 0 #3 May 3, 2001 With regards to #2. Suppose the reserve opened through the risers and stacked within the main. If your main started to peel away, would you cut away? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #4 May 3, 2001 Lots o variablesbut if it opened and was "within" (i'm assuming you mean in the lines and under?) than it really wouldnt be through the main risers all the way. I would only cutaway if the pair was not landable, and if the main "peeled" away enough to clear the reserve into clean air, if the reserve risers were through the main risers than the main risers would be on the outside, hopefully not slapping some d or steering lines on the way out. I've only been jumping for about 5 years so if your looking for answers dont take my word in stone.If you're trying to see if anyonne knws what you know and I am wrong please tell me.I really dont think that there is a right or wrong answer to this, lots o variables and every situation may require different action depending on them.Boy decisions like that suck, specially if you have two out cause of a cypress fire, you'd prolly land if you took to long to decide!-LOLD.Chisolm C-28534webmaster@sunraydesigns.comhttp://www.sunraydesigns.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #5 May 3, 2001 QuoteSuppose the reserve opened through the risers and stacked within the main. If your main started to peel away, would you cut away?This sounds strangely familiar. You aren't MikeMcLean (see "I Almost Bounced" thread) perhaps? ------------Blue Skies!ZennieEdited by Zennie on 5/3/01 10:58 AM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #7 May 3, 2001 I am trying to figure out what manner of "through the risers" you are inferring. If you mean that the reserve somehow snaked it's way through one SIDE of the main risers, then if you cutaway it would choke off your reserve. I cannot for the life of me figure how that could happen, but of course ANYTHING is possible. OK, assuming it DID somehow happen and you had a reserve out, but the main was dragging the lines (due to this odd configuration) and you knew you were going to eat it because it would NOT fly straight, then what I would do it break out my hook-knife. If the reserve snaked through the left (or right) side UNDER the slider I would cut the front main riser on that side, then cutaway the main. If it was somehow OVER the slider then through the left (or right) side, I would first cut the slider in half, then the front riser on the "bad" side, then cutaway. Remember, this all if there were NO way the configuration could be made to fly safely. I have seen all varieties of crazy malfunctions, to include double malfunctions induced when a person first fired his reserve into a bad main without cutting away, then cutaway the main right into the reserve thus creating an even LESS survivable situation. Very ugly to say the least. The method I stated above would, in theory, work given a very heads-up individual and, of course, the right peice of equipment (a good hook-knife). We would all like to think we have what it takes to deal with malfunctions. I can tell you all that I am here right now but by the grace of God. I, like a complete idiot, found myself docking for a final 2-stack at the end of a CRW jump with my friend Ray Porterfield. We were at maybe 1,200 feet and off the windline, but hey, "let's land it!". Ray hit me with his left end-cell and me, like a dumb-ass, started down and right. This, instead of centering-up first before starting down the lines. Anyway, as I got about halfway down and over, Ray's main turned right into me. Now it get's interesting: I had on a video camera. We were spining wildly with two balls of crap over our heads and I had a line wrapped around my camera. I screamed "cutaway" at about 900 feet and Ray chopped. I looked up and now had TWO balls of crap over my head, the line still hung, and chopped anyway. LUCKILLY, the line cleared and my reserve fired cleanly. I was in the saddle around 700 and made sure Ray was OK; he was. Now, there is no reason in the world for me not to have just reached down to my chest strap and cut that one line that was tangled. It was right there, but I never once considered using it. If that line would not have cleared on it's own I would have been dead for sure. I had right at 1,500 jumps then and thought you couldn't scare me; I was wrong. After that I really started checking myself and touching my handles, etc, on every jump. I haven't done much CRW since I started jumping elipticals, but when I do (rarely), I take all the safety precautions. Sorry to be so long-winded this time, but I feel the response goes along with the intent of the post, which I beleive was to get us thinking. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
