Why do people put there slider under there chin?

[Viking 0]

several people at Otay do this and i was watching good stuff (thanx Mountianman Remember when Sex was safe and skydiving was Dangerous?

[Deleted 0]

The whole slider under the chin or behind the neck is a bit hokey to me too. Unless your doin hooks at 50+mph it's not going to make that much of a difference. I'd rather not worry about the slider bustin into my face on final than lookin cool. Watch one guy biff in lookin tryin to look cool and hookin in isn't as cool as it used to be. Light hooks are still cool but damn fellas let's quit try'n to impress the onlookers as much.
My 2cents. Take it easy.

[mountainman 0]

no problem Viking!What part of the video was that? I assume the Airspeed part, but I don't remember seeing that. However, I didn't pay too close attention either.
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[Katzeye 0]

I asked this same question to one of our experienced skydivers. There's a couple reasons to put the slider behind your head or under your chin - or even in your teeth. With the slider all the way down the risers, it allows the canopy to flatten out more, giving you better performance on turns and flare (or swoop). On my new 135 (god, I love that thing) - my slider actually wants to come down the risers and sit behind my head. I'll be testing it out today and let you know...
Light, love and laughter,
Katzeye

[skybytch 273]

I seem to remember someone hurting themselves because they had the slider under their chin... it escaped from under his chin and ended up in his face just as he finished his turn to final (a time when being able to see is pretty important!). So... be careful!
pull and flare,
lisa

[Viking 0]

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Posted by mountainman:
What part of the video was that? I assume the Airspeed part, but I don't remember seeing that. However, I didn't pay too close attention either.

When they are landing you can see one guy come at the camera and you can see his riser under his chin.
Remember when Sex was safe and skydiving was Dangerous?

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Those of us who take canopy performance very seriously all pull our sliders down as far as possible to get the very best out of our canopies. Aerodynamics are critical to those trying to get that extra five feet out of his or her surf. They also play a big part in allowing some of us to get away with jumping our tiny little canopies. Let me explain the progression:

The first things a person will normally do to get a bit more performance out of his canopy are to get a kill-line pilot chute and a collapsible slider. Most mains sold today come stock with collapsible sliders and all container manufacturers offer kill-line pilot chutes as an option. These two things do wonders to your performance, plus having a slider flapping over your head is just plain annoying. As we say on our DZ, "Slida Flappida is a disease only you can cure."

Next, we concern ourselves with allowing the wing to extend to it's flattest possible configuration. We do this by pulling our already-collapsed slider down below the french-links to the bottom of the risers, right at the 3-rings. There are two possible places to "stow" the slider at that point to ensure it doesn't go flying back up behind your head: hooked to the back of your jumpsuit or your reserve pin-protector flap; and under your chin. Personally, every jumpsuit I own has a 2" square piece of velcro with a loop sewn to the back of the neck. When I am jumping without a jumpsuit for any reason, pond swooping for example, I stow the slider under my chin.

Next on my list is using "triple", or "toggle" risers. On these, your control lines are held out on a separate piece of webbing with a guide ring at the end. These allow the tail of your main to stay much flatter and allow for a more powerful flare. This, of course, does not work unless your slider is collapsed and pulled down to the 3-ring. Some very respected swoopers disagree and choose to use standard risers (just check out pictures from swoop meets), but many, many people prefer triples for their more precise directional input "feel." What you are doing, besides flattening the tail, is taking out the friction on your control lines where they would normally go out from your hands, then in to the guide rings, then back out and up to the tail. Most rig manufacturers offer triples, but they are very easy to make yourself.

The last thing that we do, minus re-trimming our canopies, is to loosen our chest-straps all the way until our harnesses "v" out from our hip rings (as opposed to from the base of the 3-rings), up past our 3-rings and risers, all the way to our canopy. This allows the maximum possible "flattening" of the airfoil and provides the best lift and glide.

The whole procedure takes me about 20 seconds and goes like this: open, clear airspace using rear risers, collapse and pull down slider, stow slider on jumpsuit, loosen chest strap, unstow brakes and haul ass!
Chuck Blue
D-12501

[PLFXpert 0]

Viking,
Didn't have time to read the other posts so someone may have mentioned this already but my boyfriend brings his slider down *behind* his head by his neck. This allows his canopy to open up to it's fullest and perform to it's full capacity. He flies a very small eliptical canopy so I'm not sure if it makes a big difference on the bigger canopies, although I do it too just to be in the habit.
Much love and blue skies,
Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/
PS....sorry I haven't been around much lately, guys. I've halfway moved in with my boyfriend in our new place on the beach but we don't have a phone line there yet so no online service either. BZ is not big on playing online anyways but whenever I can, I'll try to get him to come to DZ.com and add his 2 cents

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[PLFXpert 0]

Viking,
I just remembered there is a close-up pic of my boyfriend swooping on my website (sorry, I don't know how to upload pics onto the forums.) Just click on the link below and then click on the first picture on that page and it will bring you to the swooping pics and you can see how he brings his slider, not under his chin, but behind his headMuch love and blue skies,
Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/