pack40 0 #1 May 24, 2001 Why I am scared of jumping from a plane -C-206- which is slightly bigger -interior- than my '69 VW Beetle? O.K. I am a student, I have only 8 round-chute static line jumps, I understand. At my DZ -Godollo, Hungary, Eastern Europe- now only Cessna C-206 is available. I used to jump from Antonov An-2 which is a nice 14 person plane, with plenty of space. Last week I looked inside of the Cessna and wondered if I put wings on my Beetle it would have more room inside. So help me out what is the difference between BIG and SMALL :-), why i am sooooo scared? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmriMon 0 #2 May 24, 2001 i think it has to do with the mood in the plane, in a bigget plane u have more people to laugh with and stuff like that and in a small one there is less people and they consitrate more on making themselfes feel more comfertable, we have a c206 and c411 at my dz and it much more fun to go with the big one not just cuz it's bigger and faster, it's also cuz it flies much smoother and cuz theres more people to talk toFree Skies,Omri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygrom 0 #3 May 24, 2001 Hey, pack!You just need to relax. I know - what is it - to jump from small aircraft after great An-2. My first jumps i did from this great plane. And my first jump from Mi-2 (which is like 206 in size) was like scary movie But now, when I jump from big Mi-8 chopper, sometimes I have nostalgy about small and cozy Mi-2 I think - after some jumps from 206 you will be fanaticaly like this plane - small, fast and cozy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #4 May 24, 2001 Thanks for your advices, I'll try to relax and prepare mentally for my jumps. As I passed my written test for the freefall jumps I'll have a static-line first -800m- than a 3 sec freefall -1000m-. So I'll have much excitement. (HOW CAN SOMETHING HEAVIER THAN AIR FLY?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #5 May 24, 2001 I have a 69 beetle- I am 6' 2" about 225 lbs -LOLAnd we jump out of C-182's on the weekedays when noone comes out.Just another ride to the playground man!D.Chisolm C-28534webmaster@sunraydesigns.comhttp://www.sunraydesigns.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
what42 0 #6 May 24, 2001 Small planes can be a little intimidating at first, especially if you start out on a bigger plane. But, the way I see it, whatever gets you to the sky can't be that bad. I actually enjoyed my only two Cessna182 rides. I had a better view outside.Wesley--I want to fly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygrom 0 #7 May 24, 2001 QuoteI'll have a static-line first -800m- than a 3 sec freefall -1000m-. You are so happy now... May be my first 3 sec jump was my happiest jump... Every jump I had absolutely new fillings. It was happy time...And now we are HARD WORKINGKeep fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #8 May 24, 2001 QuoteI have a 69 beetle- I am 6' 2" about 225 lbs -LOLAnd we jump out of C-182's on the weekedays when noone comes out.All this talk of Volkswages just gave me this really weird vision of "clown jumps" out of a C-182. Jumper after jumper after jumper after jumper.... ------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doasfu 0 #9 May 24, 2001 QuoteAll this talk of Volkswages just gave me this really weird vision of "clown jumps" out of a C-182. Jumper after jumper after jumper after jumper....This reminds me of something cracked me up this weekend. I was sitting around watching some people getting ready to go up. Anyhow, there's a King Air load standing around geared up, waiting for the plane to taxi over, from a good distance away. At the same the C-182 is sitting right in front of the group of 13, props spinning and door open. It looked just like the 13 of them were about to try and pile into the Cessna, and I just started laughing, much to the confusion of those around me. :)Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick 0 #10 May 24, 2001 Quote"Small planes can be a little intimidating at first, especially if you start out on a bigger plane. But, the way I see it, whatever gets you to the sky can't be that bad. I actually enjoyed my only two Cessna182 rides."Your ONLY two 182 rides?!?! Man, can you say spoiled brat!??! lol No, seriously tho, there are those of us who's never even gazed upon the promised land of the turbine... much less been fortunate enough to jump out of one! lol ALL my jumps have been from a c-182 (with the exception of 2 out of a 206), and frankly, the bigger planes make me a little nervous! If that's not basackwards I don't know what is!"Grab the grass, it's the bounce that kills!"Merrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #11 May 24, 2001 Guess I'm the "anti-Merrick". I've never jumped from anything smaller than a Twin Otter and I have 50 jumps so far. I'm not even sure of how to jump from a Cessna. Can you even do a diving exit or do you have to step out onto the little platform?------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #12 May 24, 2001 Crowd in the plane:When I did my second (?) jump at a different DZ, we were sitting in the plane An-2 (14 person + 2 pilots), before take-off. The jumpmaster started to count 1, 2,3...17 Oops we were a bit overcrowded! However that was a fantastic jump. Usually the jumpmaster -in Hungary- says first 'prepare', than you stand up and wait, than he says 'jump' and you walk to the door and jump. But, sometimes he murmures something, and the result is that I am standing at the door shouting 'Can I jump?, Can I jump?'Finally I have NOT jumped out rather the wind sucked me out.The DZ called Dunakeszi is at the river Danube, it was a fantastic view of the river with the sun glaring on the river. Also the DZ is in the middle of a corn -or what- field no trees, just a motorway beside the airport and the river Danube.While I like Antonov An-2 (biggest biplane in the world) is that it has many advatages: slow speed -when jumping-, and plenty of SPACE vs. C-206. Only one disadvantage when the engine is started it gives such a noise that you can freighten anybody with it, like cracking metal or tearing apart a bicycle :-), but I like them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doasfu 0 #13 May 24, 2001 QuoteI've never jumped from anything smaller than a Twin Otter and I have 50 jumps so far. I'm not even sure of how to jump from a Cessna. Can you even do a diving exit or do you have to step out onto the little platform?Bah! How can you even call it a first jump if you didn't have to hang below the bottom of the wing, gripping the strut for all it's worth! :)Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keys 0 #14 May 24, 2001 Pack, eat a burrito a few hours before you go. Let out a nasty one and trust me, the mood on the plan will change quick (the exit will be quick too) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #15 May 24, 2001 QuoteCan you even do a diving exit or do you have to step out onto the little platform?Yes you can Zen- you kinda have to put one foot out on the sep and then just dive away! You can hang off the strut, upside down or otherwise, even launch 4-ways-LOL.D.Chisolm C-28534webmaster@sunraydesigns.comhttp://www.sunraydesigns.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #16 May 24, 2001 I only have 1 C182 jump and 1 C206 jump (out of 99). Up until January the smallest thing I'd every jumped from was a Queen Air. So am I spoiled? Probably.The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #17 May 24, 2001 As I know first you step to a little platform after you reach the door crwoling doggy-style. As I am male I do not really enjoy the doggy-style postion, at least when I am the DOG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #18 May 24, 2001 Jeez, it ain't skydiving unless you're packed all up in a small confined space groping each other on the way to altitude.Look at it this way. After 20 mins or so being cramped up in a C206 you'll be so relieved to jump out of that sucker you'll forget to be nervous about skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeekStreak 0 #19 May 24, 2001 At my DZ we scoot around on our butts backwards rather than crawl... there's no room in the c182 to turn around by the door.Geek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DVW 0 #20 May 24, 2001 Your scared of jumping OUT of the plane? I always find the scarest bit it getting in the plane whilst it is still on the ground!! Once it is in the air then the jump is just routine. Okay i admit that the C182 is a bit small and kneeing really does make your feet and ankels go numb. I still can not master the right hand side sitting exit from the C206 so i must admit that the easiest to jump from (that i have jumped) must be the Twin Otter, and theres a lot of room to stretch your legs too (If your sat at the back..which i was). DVW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #21 May 24, 2001 I've jumped out of Twin Otters mostly, once a Cessna Caravan and I've jumped out of King Airs (and of course, CASAs!), but that's it.Never jumped out of one of those little guys. I hear they usually only take the little planes up to about 10.5K. Their non-turbine engines can't get enough oxygen above that altitude.I hear that if you jump out of one of those little C182's you can do a bat jump, which is where you grab the wing strut and flip your feet up to catch the front edge of the wing with your toes. Then you can hang by your toes from the wing! Supposedly you can just point your toes & drop off. Has anyone here ever done this?Speed RacerBrew Skies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick 0 #22 May 24, 2001 Quote"I've never jumped from anything smaller than a Twin Otter"You could definitely be my "anti-me!" cuz we are almost exactly opposite, 42 jumps (all from cessnas) and I'm not sure that I'D know how to jump from anything bigger! lol"Grab the grass, it's the bounce that kills!"Merrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #23 May 24, 2001 I'm 6'6", and the majority of my jumps have been from a c-182 -- always a tight squeeze (I prefer the Old Man's spot). Just remember this - the plane is only an elevator. It's getting back down that counts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmettoTiger 1 #24 May 24, 2001 Quotedisadvantage when the engine is started it gives such a noise that you can freighten anybody with it, like cracking metal or tearing apart a bicycle :-)So much for the "perfectly good airplane" bit.Blues, squares,PTiger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick 0 #25 May 24, 2001 Quote"Their non-turbine engines can't get enough oxygen above that altitude."I Don't think that has anything to do with it. It's just not very profitable to take it any higher.... We usually jump a cessna 182 wide body with wing extensions & some other kind of mod on the front of the wings.... all to make it climb faster, and it still takes us 25 - 40 minutes to get to altitude (10,000agl) depending on the err.. umm... gravitational pull of each individual on the plane & the heat. So taking an extra 10 minutes or so to go to 12 or 14ft agl on each load would break a small one or two cessna DZ. Our DZO took a jump-buddy of mine up to 14 a week or so ago, but he was the only one on the plane... and he works for him. Also, I'm pretty sure that FAA regulations restrict aircraft that size from venturing above 20,000 ft. Could be wrong tho! "Grab the grass, it's the bounce that kills!"Merrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites