mouth 0 #26 June 29, 2001 Problem is that we are just as wrapped up in jumping as you guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RemiAndKaren 0 #27 July 4, 2001 Well, looking at the results after one week, maybe Sangiro should start a Personals section:10 said: An Whuffo? oooohh the shame!!!! 12 said: One of us? it may be cool, but it costs twice as much 24 said: Partner, whats that???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skystorm 0 #28 July 4, 2001 One of us!!!!!!! Oh, yeah!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokeneagle 0 #29 July 4, 2001 Mebbe most of us have already been burned in a relationship, and are looking with jaundiced eye at even more risk than we already take-- exposing ourselves to more pain than we can control.... and then again, mebbe most of us are crazy- or antisocial, or misfits of society- like the whuffos say we are-- personally, I believe that we are the people our parents warned us about.... It's only the giving that makes you what you are... In the end, only kindness matters.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma 0 #30 July 5, 2001 Guys, there's not much point getting all philosophical and worked up about this...the bottom line is (I think), if you are a skydiver it's a LOT easier if your partner is too....Which leads on to the happy (for girls, heh heh) statistic relating to gender distribution in skydiving - i.e., lots of blokes, not many birds!Ah, sometimes it IS good to be a woman in this male-dominated sport.....even if we're just looking at the scenery.....On the friends-first thing, I recommend it, I was friends first with my man and am still with him 10 years later. We even de-whuffoed ourselves at around the same time. Bonus!exps, anyone out there in England today? It's bloody hot eh? And yet AGAIN am in the office when there is literally acres and acres of blue sky above me! Evil evil world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RemiAndKaren 0 #31 July 5, 2001 Hi Emma, long time no see on here.... wb, and yes, dam hot and muggy in Britland... too bad they're calling for cooler this weekendRemihappily married to a skychick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyke 0 #32 July 5, 2001 Here is something I find funny...Most if not all of us are willing to go head first (feet, back, WHATEVER!!!) out the door of an airplane, but yet we take our relationships as cautiously as a whuffo standing on the ground looking up saying..."oh, I could never do that!"Case in point...I recently tried (I reiterate TRIED) to start dating another skydiver...we went out a couple of times...had loads of laughs and heaps in common...spent the night together twice (nothing happened-which for me at this stage was BRILLIANT!) I thought things were going great...but just as I went to confess that I was quite smitten with her...she pulls the plug and doesn't talk to me for 4 weeks (and counting!!).A few things were going on in the background that I couldn't control...like recently split up with ex, moving, loss of job/trying to find another...but what about real attraction?? What about saying, "Fuck it, I have met someone really great and I am going to risk it all".So, forgive me for "whining" (totally over it now, so it isn't really whining), but I just find that funny.We are willing to take our lives into our hands time and time again, but not our hearts - on the chance that this "one" could be it.Anyone else have something to add?Kahurangi e Mahearangi,PykeNZPF A - 2584 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #33 July 5, 2001 Pyke...unfortunately you are correct. We are afraid. I think that for those of us who have been in terrible relationships it can be compared to a mal that you couldn't correct so you burnt in and somehow survived. (My opinion only) Jumping again would be almost impossible for me. It would take lots of determination and hard work on my part and lots of patience on the part of a coach to get me out again. Not the same as a whuffo since I have tried it, and stuck with it for a long time.Same thing with relationships...they are not something that comes easy anymore when you get past that friendship stage. This from a chick who talks all the time to anybody. Sometimes the friendship thing is even work because you are standing at the door looking out at the beauty set forth before you, feeling the rush of the air ready to take you into it's enchantment if even for a brief span of time and saying to yourself "JUMP" while your head and heart scream over the wind noise "DON'T" it won't last and you could get hurt. Like you say it is a leap of faith. Trust must be there in order to take that leap so personally I say FRIENDS are a must. That leads to the hitch of questioning whether we would still be friends if something happened in the relationship. When you work hard for a friendship it is difficult to put it on the line.I guess we need to look at ourselves and determine how much we are going to risk at what price.........Anyway...my ramble for the morning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyke 0 #34 July 5, 2001 Mouth, I agree with you.Friends are important...'cause if you aren't friends before you certainly aren't going to be friends after a fight/problem/whatever.The thing is...if you have known about each other for a while (not really talked, but you have observed each others actions/personality, say around a dz) and you are attracted enough to go out with that person...then why can't you establish both at the same time.My ex (reasons to long to mention) and I started out as romantic interests...got to know each other over a considerably short period of time (a month), all the while being exclusive...and ended up dating for 6 years. We are still best friends. There was love lost between us (natually), but you can't turn your back on that kind of time. side note...case in point - after 19 years my parents divorced and remained friends (for the kids sake), but at my mum's second wedding...she invited my dad and he even made a speech that put the whole room in stitches!!So, I guess what I am getting to is...if you are seeking a relationship...and have spotted someone who interests you, but you want to be cautious about it...why can't you have both?? Be cautious about getting SEXUAL, but be romantic, friendly, intimate, and passionate. That way you get the benefits of a new friendship (the fun, friendly, casual atmosphere), but the hint of a new love in the making ('cause you allow yourself and the other person to be romantic, passionate, loving towards each other)I don't know if I illustrate my point very well..I guess you could count this as my mid-afternoon rant! Tells you how my day is going.Kahurangi e Mahearangi,PykeNZPF A - 2584 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #35 July 5, 2001 Again I have to say I agree, except that most guys think if you son't sleep with them fairly early on then they are going to move on to "greener pastures". Just my observation. Granted I can talk trash with the best of the guys. Anyway...one day some guy is going to knock me off my feet and some girl is going to knock you off your feet. You sound like you are ready to accept that risk. I'm still working on that issue; however, things are getting better.As for my day...I'm headed to the pool for some sun. Life is dull here so the pool is a good escape. Housework just can't rate compared to the pool.How about yours?? Working or playing?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyke 0 #36 July 5, 2001 Aahhhh, a pool sounds nice. I think I will have to go home and get into mine. I tell you what...I have never lived with a pool in my back yard (and after seeing how much work they are...I can understand why my parents never had one), but after these past couple of weeks, and what summers here are supposed to be like...I am SOO GLAD that I have one now.anyway, I am at work (as a temp right now) and they don't have me doing anything exciting except answering phones. So, I spend all day planning what my new rig is going to look like with all this $$ I am making to buy it, and posting here.I hate doing housework...except when the stereo is on REALLY LOUD, and I have cold beer waiting for me when I am done!Well, enjoy the pool and the sun...since we didn't get much yesterday.Kahurangi e Mahearangi,PykeNZPF A - 2584 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #37 July 5, 2001 Well...if you saw my post in the hump loading thread, you'd see I have a 1:2:0 for the week. That 1 is with a friend of 2 years. We got a little trashed at the 4th of July block party and ended up shoving ice down various pieces of each others clothing and it just went on from there.We'll see where this leads...supposed to "hang out" with her tonight, but those plans were made before the ice incident. So, it'll either be a forget that ever happened and stay friends...repeat that and stay friends...be more then friends...or be too awkward for friends. Personally, I'd be happy with any of those except the last.cielos azules y cerveza fría-Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyke 0 #38 July 5, 2001 QuoteWe got a little trashed at the 4th of July block party and ended up shoving ice down various pieces of each others clothing and it just went on from there.I like the sound of this....nice way to "chill out" together!!! Here's hoping she knows how wonderful you are and sticks with it....doesn't balk at the whole incident and lets it get "wierd" for you!!![austin powers 2's Dr. Evil] It got wierd didn't it?[/austin powers 2's Dr. Evil]glad you had fun!! At least some of us had a productive 4th. I spent the whole day packing tandems, did 2 jumps, and didn't even see but like 4 women the whole day!!Oh well....shit happens I guess!!Kahurangi e Mahearangi,PykeNZPF A - 2584 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #39 July 5, 2001 I agree a pool is lots of work but great when you want to lay out in private so I sacrifice. It is hotter than heck out there so HAD to run in for a cold one. Summer in GA....even the pool is hot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
