airann 1 #1 September 14, 2001 The CASA is on the taxi way in N. Carolina, right now to Texas. They stop at Skydive Atlanta for fuel. I talked to the pilot on his cell phone, I heard for my self and he promised it was true -he stuck the cell phone in the engine. all of us heard it. It is the same as Otter section in manual. If we get enuff people we fly the sunset load, at Spaceland. Just got off the phone.The only reason the Otter is not coming to Skydive Houston is an instrument issue. It flys at dawn to Skydive Houston.That would mean Spaceland cleared for the morning.I am shaking gotta go. Skydive~Friends~Happiness AirAnnwww.AirAnn.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #2 September 14, 2001 Hi Ann. Hmmmm........only general aviation aircraft good to go right now are those under IFR flight plans. Maybe this repo flight is filed IFR. VFR (jumpships, etc.) might be able to fly Sunday. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 September 14, 2001 Ann... How is Spaceland getting around the IVF regs? I'd love to know so I can point my DZO to the same loopholes. I know that the planes can fly from point A to point B but not from A to 13500 back to A without filing a flight plan and using IVF stuff.Flying on your belly is great..... if thats all you can do! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #4 September 14, 2001 I suggest we keep watching this as we go, but also be ready to fly.Offical Skydive Houston Posting:Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:25:51 -0500 Hi Folks -Just to let you know that according to the FEDS we are shut down, at least for now. Our Otter is still in North Carolina and is unable to be ferried back following these rulings.If the word changes we will let you know, hope your weekend is a great one.By the way I still have a dog here looking for a good home, she has had her shots and been spayed, free to a good home. Skydive~Friends~Happiness AirAnnwww.AirAnn.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #5 September 15, 2001 The way I understood it was all about flight plans and clearances. The Otter left NC Airsports to go to point B. The A&M Memorial Boogie. Thats all I know cause we heard it take off. Now, if they jump tommorow - we will see that tommrow.Same thing for Spaceland. I am told we could have flown a load if we had the people tonight. I couldnt make the load from here. So I dont know how he would have filed his flight plan. I know we follow a strict pattern away. Annnouncing each executed turn and alt, etc.So, go figure.I got my gear ready ...... thats all I am saying. Be ready. Skydive~Friends~Happiness AirAnnwww.AirAnn.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #6 September 15, 2001 I was informed {just as you left AirAnn} Spaceland is flying in the morning. They had talked to Center and was given clearance to resume operations tomorrow moring... I'll be there!! Bright and early.. If we aren't able to fly then the beer light comes on and we have a party! Either way I'm gunna FLY!!My New Website with 24hr Chat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #7 September 15, 2001 Quote Ann... How is Spaceland getting around the IVF regs? I'd love to know so I can point my DZO to the same loopholes. I know that the planes can fly from point A to point B but not from A to 13500 back to A without filing a flight plan and using IVF stuff. First of all, what is this IVF you are referring to? Never heard of it - and I've been flying professionaly for almost 8 years.. Second, you CAN file and fly a flight plan from "point A" to "point A".. Every instrument rated pilot has probably done this at one time or another - usually during training flights.. If you want to take off from DED, climb to 15,000ft, and return to DED - you file a flight plan from DED, to DED, with a routing of DIRECT.. Controllers will understand this as a local flight, and likely just provide vectors during the climb, then clear the aircraft for a visual approach during the descent.. This will most likely not be allowed by most ATC facilities just to allow jump planes to fly..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 September 15, 2001 Opps was typing fast. I ment to type IFR. I was sitting at work and the possibilty of resuming the last bit of normal life for me was so exciting that I rushed the typing and did'nt proof read it. Plus since my DZ is an private airstrip I dont think that filing flight plans is high on the priority list of the staff. They will probally wait till the regs get back to normal.Flying on your belly is great..... if thats all you can do! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaksister 0 #9 September 15, 2001 You have to file an IFR flight plan with the FAA every time you go up, from what I understand. Our DZ is closed, out of respect to the country and the FAA officials. We don't want to cause them any more work than they have already got. Not to mention the pain in the butt it would probably be for the dz too... The management discussed whether to file flight plans as some dzs have done, or to close. Option B was chosen. Kudos to them!SisI lust for the ultimate rush... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #10 September 15, 2001 Quote You have to file an IFR flight plan with the FAA every time you go up, from what I understand. That's correct.. As soon as your airplane touches down on landing, the IFR flight plan you were on is gone.. The controllers close it out.. A new one must be filed for the next takeoff..Quote The management discussed whether to file flight plans as some dzs have done, or to close. Option B was chosen. Kudos to them! Honestly, it wouldn't cause any real significant increase in workload.....especially with all VFR flights being grounded.. That means that there are a lot less flights for ATC to track.. Even though they may not be controlling VFR flights, or know who they are for that matter, they must ensure that their IFR traffic doesn't conflict with VFR traffic..Not to mention the fact that many ATC facilities will not allow skydiving operations while on an IFR flight plan.. There's nothing prohibiting it - but most facilities just won't do it typically..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #11 September 15, 2001 Almost went flying today, but the surface winds were gusting to 25 knots (not down the runway) here, and the winds aloft were about 40 knots!The FSS person said there wasn't anything to prohib us, but that we should expect delays. This and the wind was enough to have me flying the simulator on the ground.The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites