Strynx 0 #1 November 22, 2001 I've just finish John DeRosalia's Book " Mental Training in Skydiving and Life". Anyone Read it? Does anyone use mental training to help performance? I usually repeat 3 chosen words over and over again, i find it helps me to concetrate on key elements.Anyway just curious."Curiosity is the base of knowledge, knowledge is the root of freedom" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #2 November 22, 2001 Yes I've read the book too. Very well written with a lot of good tips. Especially if you haven't done any sort of mental training before.I've done a lot of zazen meditation, so on the ride up I'll usually just calm my mind and use mental imagery to map out the dive. Zen & skydiving seem to go together well. Once out of the plane I try to "just do it". "Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #3 November 22, 2001 "Once i'm out i "just do it" "I hear ya dude. I really liked the part where he talks about the games, he uses mantal imagery alot. I study Aikido and imagery is somthing we don't use alot, we focus more on breathing techniques. Do you know anyother good book?" Hesitation can result in serious injury or death." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #4 November 22, 2001 Read it. I like the tools to help you focus on "your most important goals" and I use the Imaging alot. Even the chapters on team training did a lot for me during dirt dives and debriefs. Lots of psycho-babble in there, just skip over those parts. If you haven't read " The Art of Freefall Relative Work" by Pat Works, it's and oldie but a goodie. (yeah, chicago...I know I can't spell) Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #5 November 22, 2001 Aikidoka - masters of the PLF :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #6 November 22, 2001 QuoteAikidoka - masters of the PLF :)ROFLMAO! "Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #7 November 22, 2001 " Master of plf"Thanx That's why i started aikido. . I tried using imaging in skydiving but i get distracted alot. Does daydreaming counts for imaging." Skydiving puts a perminant SMILE on my face" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #8 November 22, 2001 If you can rehearse the perfect skydive in your mind while the plane is climbing to altitude, then you can step out and do the perfect skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 November 22, 2001 Yes, provided that everyone else on your team does the same!The problem is that getting 5 people all in the same state of mind, rhythm and flow isn't quite as easy as it sounds.It takes a LOT of time, money and hard work to just be decent at this sport -- let alone "perfect".Paul**********Poster: riggerrobSubject: Re: Mental TrainingIf you can rehearse the perfect skydive in your mind while the plane is climbing to altitude, then you can step out and do the perfect skydive.http://futurecam.com/skydive.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #10 November 22, 2001 I think that if you skydive with a team, ALL must at least be aware of these tools and use them to some extent. "Skydive puts a perminant smile on my face" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenhawk420 0 #11 November 22, 2001 My mental training consists of;You wanna do this? Yeah, can you do this? Yeah, You scared? Um kinda, You wanna do this? Hell yeah, So what you scared of then you chickenshit soldier, you can't do it. Im not takin this shit from you know what im gonna prove you wrong not even scared just wanna whoop ya call me chickenshit- then i do whatever it was that i felt a pang of nerves about.Please make these voices stop. No never don't listen to him im the real one. What you talkn about im sane im real you i made up. Am not. Yeah you are. Wanna fight about it. Yeah(helpless onlookers watch as he beats himself up)I won. No you didn't Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #12 November 22, 2001 LOLROTF! Sentiment of Deja vu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #13 November 22, 2001 I did the opposite, picked up aikido about 4 years before the first jump - used to be the joke at the dojo about the requirement to become shihan was being able to jump out of a plane, breakfall and still be able to kick the collective butts of an American football defensive line.Aikido - the art of being beaten up by people half your size and twice your age - all in the pursuit of transforming from the ever airborne uke to the energizier nage. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #14 November 22, 2001 Remember, Tyler Durden says, "Use soap!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #15 November 22, 2001 I just ordered that book and I hope to use it for myself and use parts of it to help some of the students I train. As for imagery, I am a big believer it it and it has helped me immensly. Right now, I try to tell my students not to just go over the dive-flow in their heads but to see themselves doing it perfectly every time. If they can imagine themselves being able to give a perfect performace then they are much more likely to perform better when they actually get out of the airplane.I am also a big believer in good breathing and smiling as well. With my 45-second delay students I use an exit count of "Ready, Set, Breathe!" and when we leave the step I want to see them doing it and smiling as much as I am.Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickMcMahon 0 #16 November 22, 2001 Yes, John's book is good! I also bought one of hismeditation audio cassettes, but haven't had a chanceto use it. There are too many clouds, and too much rain in Oregonto do much jumping right now. (The days are too shorttoo!) Hope I don't forget how!http://www.dickmcmahon.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 November 22, 2001 "I must warn you, I am extensively trained in White Crane, Kung Fu, and Aikido!"-Dan Akroyd as Doctor DetroitIt was after seeing this movie that I swapped from TKD to Aikido and Wing Chun.ChuckMy webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #18 November 23, 2001 Hey ! grumpy with what style of aikido do you train? I've started aikido b4 jumping too but when i did my 1st jump i found that all the breathing technics they've shown us helped alot + Like you said we are trained PLFmaster. And you Skymonkey with whom do you tarin. I train with the Yoseikan budo wich his now managed by Frederic Auger."Anticipation will only give you a rigid mind" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #19 November 23, 2001 "Wing Chun" Or Wang Chung??? My mental prep before a Skydive.....Allright, breath...nice deep breath....MMMM....look at her tits....Shit...Skydiving...Yeah deep breath climb out....Damn...she's bending over to tie her shoe. Would you look at those huge breastsssssssss-ssssss. Shit, Fuck!!! Skydiving...yeah the exit.....mmmmm...relax. Breath, and just float off the plane offering no......Jeeezzzz-and-rice I love it when she pulls on those leg straps. Talk about Camel toes!!! What...Door? Shit...OK, OK Breath relax....Go? NOW? Ahhh shit....Damn...she had to go out after me..*Still trying to watch boobies in free fall!!!! Oh shit! Pull time....maybe I can get close enough under canopy to enjoy them. "Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #20 November 23, 2001 Dude you forgot only one thing, SMILE. Hey thanx now i know what imagery is all about. Tits&ass Tits&ass Yeah i'll have a great jump."Skydive puts a perminant smile on my face Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #21 November 23, 2001 Wang Chung - Isnt that a band or something. "Everybody Wang Chung tonight .. ..."So... Yeah, Dr. John sent me -my very own personal autographed copy. It only took him a paragraph to sum up what I need to do. I am still working on it.Skydive~Friends~HappinessAirAnnhttp://www.AirAnn.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strynx 0 #22 November 23, 2001 Where did you meet him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenhawk420 0 #23 November 23, 2001 LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Strynx 0 #24 November 23, 2001 In a blink if it's me at the door Oh shit i drop smothinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #25 November 23, 2001 "a nekid skydiving chick floater"I'd have to fly in a sit! It's difficult to compensate for a woody when Head down!!! "Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Strynx 0 #24 November 23, 2001 In a blink if it's me at the door Oh shit i drop smothinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #25 November 23, 2001 "a nekid skydiving chick floater"I'd have to fly in a sit! It's difficult to compensate for a woody when Head down!!! "Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites