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[lazerq3 0]

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One more thing are there any other types of deployement methods?? other than hip mounted (or leg strap) and B.O.C???

I saw on a video at our DZ a jumper who had some kind of pullout method it looked like on the right side of his harness just under his armpit below his cutaway handle. They said in the vid that he made this specail modifacation himself. He is a world class freestlyer. I wanna say it was on good stuff but I'm not sure. It looked funky as hell though when he deployed!!
any one else seen this?
jason

[FallingILweenie 0]

Actually, Marc and I made a notice of something similar to that while watching Willing To Fly today...it was the sequence with Norman Kent's wife Freestyling....it had something wierd on the rig.
at first we couldnt figure out what it was, but i think it's the reserve handle that is right around her waist as opposed to the regular spot. not exactly sure, tho.
blue skies
Tomas

[chicagoskydiver 0]

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just an observation here. A B.O.C doesn't actually mean to say if it's a rip cord or a throw away pilot chute. it's just the position of the deploying method, i.e you can have a throw away on your leg strap or on your B.O.C likewise with a rip cord (mind you rip cord goes from the hip not the leg strap).

OK, maybe I should have been a little more precise. I just assumed that you would know that I meant a BOC throw out pilot chute. That's what they use for every student jump at Skydive Chicago and Skydive Illinois. The student rigs are designed so the instructor can pull the pilot chute out for the student from either side if the need arises. It just seems to me that it makes more sense to train with what's pretty much become the industry standard, or at least the most common deployment method, rather than learning with a ripcord and then having to "unlearn" it. Skydive Chicago has been teaching students for years from level one with a BOC throw out sytem with no problems.
Hackey

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At our DZ...this is a MAJOR problem. They have BOC and RC rigs mixed together with different canopies and so forth. The problem comes when you go to rent a rig and they only have a ripcord or they only have a BOC. I was trained on AFF with ripcord and then during coach jumps, they put me on the BOC. However, there has been plenty of times that I had to use a ripcord because all the BOC were being used (like 2 rigs).
What my problem with this is that I was going back and forth between the two like crazy. It was almost different everytime I went there. I have never had a problem, I have never held the PC, nor have I ever dropped the ripcord. One thing that I do before I jump is practice my pulls about 50 times before the atual jump.
I don't think it is very safe to do the switching, but hey, I gotta jump and there isn't anything else. God, I'm glad we got our rigs.now.
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There are three main deployment methods currently being used that I'm aware of. Rip-cord, throw-out and pull-out. RC and throw-out have already been discussed in this thread so I'll limit my post to a description of a pull-out system.
Pull-out consists of a pud (a kind of little handle) located on the bottom of the container which is attached to a bridle that runs to the pin. The bridle continues on past the pin to the pilot chute which is stored INSIDE the container (like rc). This means when you pull the pud you are directly pulling the pin and opening the container. You then continue to pull a little further to extract the pilot chute from the container and introduce it to the wind.
The main advantage of a pull-out is that it's impossible to have a horse-shoe mal because, if the container opens prematurely, the pilot chute is exposed to the wind and will extract the canopy.
Technically speaking (judging from some earlier posts in this thread I believe there may be some confusion on this issue) a horseshoe mal is only possible on a throw out system. It occurs when the container opens prematurely but the pilot chute remains in the pouch. This leads to a 'horseshoe' consisting of the lines running up from the container to the bag and the bridle running down from the bag to the pilot chute.
There's a pic of a pull-out pud on a Voodoo container here: http://www.rigginginnovations.com/voodoo/main.htm I believe they show the system with the pud becuase the container looks cleaner without the bulge of a pilot chute in a pouch under the container.
The main disadvantage I'm aware of with a pull-out system is that it's possible for the pud to get dislodged either in freefall or on the plane ride. Then you're looking at a reserve ride. However, from what I've seen, the systems have improved such that this is pretty rare. Plus you should always be checking those handles before leaving the plane regardless of what deployment system you're on!
You can request a pull-out deployment system on pretty much any rig you order nowadays. I know for sure that Javelin offers a pull-out option and I intend to go to a pull-out on my next rig.
Corrections and feedback are welcome!
Blue Skies and Long Safe Swoops,
Trey

[RemiAndKaren 0]

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Technically speaking (judging from some earlier posts in this thread I believe there may be some confusion on this issue) a horseshoe mal is only possible on a throw out system. It occurs when the container opens prematurely but the pilot chute remains in the pouch

Correction:
the mal you described is in deed a horseshoe (main trying to deploy, PC still in pouch) but a horseshoe can be other things: PC caught on leg for exemple. This can happen with both PUD (Pull Out Deployement) or thow-out.
Remi
Muff 914

[lazerq3 0]

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a horseshoe mal is only possible on a throw out system

I have to disagree. What if on a RC set up the PC get caught in your burble, hooks on something and then the Dbag takes off. Now you have a horseshoe mal. I know it may sound far fetched but weirder things have happened in this sport!!
jason

[skymedic 0]

I hated my springloaded pilot chute on student status......Due to the fact that I am a big dude...I push alot of air out of the way and have one hell of a burble...well so I have been told...every single jump the pilot chute bounced around in my burble....I had to look over my shoulder every time for it to get some air and take off....that just sucks.....good thing I pulled WAY hight back then...
Marc
Res Firma Mitescere Nescite

[Halo01 0]

Held on to the pilot chute for 15 secs?
That's technique only I'm thinking.

[NtheSeaOrSky 0]

When I began my AFF training, I was taught when dealing with a high speed mal,first dump the RC. (then cut away and pull reserve-if I remember correctly ;-) ) In this manner, no matter what system I used, my hands were empty to do the important stuff. And this was at a school where you'd better come down with the rip cord you went up with, or be riding a reserve in!

[ooohhhno 0]

Yikes! My first hand deploy, I couldn't get the thing out of my hand fast enough! :-)

[lazerq3 0]

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My first hand deploy, I couldn't get the thing out of my hand fast enough! :-)

Careful......too fast and you'll end up with one of those lazy tosses we were talking about a while ago and may end up with something nasty!!
jason