mountainman 0 #1 December 13, 2001 Here is a tough problem for all of you guys who think you know everything about computers. Here is my problem: When I try to burn a CD on my parents' computer, the buffer always runs out of space and it stops and gives me the error message of "buffer underrun". What do you think it could be? Here are PC specs:ABIT KT7A (non-RAID)T-bird 850mHz256MB PC133 RAMHP 9700k 16x8x40 CD-RW40X CD-ROM30GB 7200rpm HDSB Live! X-gamerATI Radeon 32MB DDR RAMFull-tower w/300W PSUIf anyone can help me, I will be forever grateful. I have been working on this and its even stumped the computer guys on the other website I post on which is totally computers.Thank you!!-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #2 December 13, 2001 Are you copying cd-cd or Hdd-cd? If it's cd-cd, put the 2 different drives on different IDE leads (ie. one on the primary channel, one on the secondary). You've got a nice system, so I don't see why this is happening. I skydive, therefore I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites indyz 1 #3 December 13, 2001 That computer shouldn't be underrunning if all of the hardware is functioning correctly. Could you tell us what you are trying to burn?--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #4 December 13, 2001 yeah, they are both on different IDE channels and are set-up correctly (master/slave). I also have DMA on.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #5 December 13, 2001 Trying to burn music CDs from mp3s on the HD.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites indyz 1 #6 December 13, 2001 That ain't right. 850Mhz should be plenty to convert from MP3 to CDDA on the fly. Have you tried forcing it to do the burn at a lower speed?--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #7 December 13, 2001 yeah, i actually put it down to 1x once and it still had buffer underrun. I am thinking that there is a setting wrong or something. -------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #8 December 13, 2001 Try it with the DMA setting switched off - it might make a difference as not all CD drives like it. I skydive, therefore I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #9 December 13, 2001 tried it....i have tried so much stuff, its sick.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites indyz 1 #10 December 13, 2001 Grasping at straws: Trying installing it in another computer, and see if it works their. You might also want to check the IDE cable.--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #11 December 13, 2001 Make sure you have an ATA 66 cable on the system as a min. ATA100 would be better.I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingILweenie 0 #12 December 13, 2001 how bout not doing it on the fly? convert the mp3's to cda tracks, make a disk image, then copy the cd from the disc image.blue skiesTomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #13 December 13, 2001 tried different software? I skydive, therefore I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #14 December 13, 2001 Phree....not too sure about what kind of IDE cable it is. Where would I check that?IL....never tried converting them first. You think if I tried a data CD, it should do it ok?SM.....my last resort is to try Nero, but it came with Easy CD Creator.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #15 December 13, 2001 Check:1. Different software2. Shut down all background tasks ESPECIALLY anti-virus as it changes how files are accessed if any type of real-time protection is enabled.3. Try a new IDE cable (could be a bad cable or some type of resistance problem)4. Re-route the IDE cable if it is near any high-energy RF / power area if you can.5. Make sure PC is at least 2-feet away from the monitor or any other power supply.6. Check for a firmware upgrade for the burner7. Try a new brand of CDR mediaKris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #16 December 13, 2001 Nero, is a better program. Get rid of that crappy-ass EZ Cd Creator. Secondly, I never copy CD's "on the fly" for that very reason. One little spike in what your processor decides to prioritize, and you can just watch that buffer go all the way down to 0% and underrun. Then you have a nice shiny new coaster.My advice would be to check your hardware profile for your burner and make sure there are now weird conflicts, and then try using Nero. In the CD Copy menu, there is a little box that you can uncheck so that it doesn't copy "on the fly". It will read the whole cd into a buffer (hard drive "scratch" area, for you Premiere buffs) and then once the whole CD is essentially on your hard drive it will then write it to the cd-r. In my experience, the write process is much less volatile doing it this way. I can even play mp3's while I write using this method.Don't bother converting to mp3's that is too much work. EZ Cd creator is just an inferior product that seems a little bit more user friendly but just isn't as good as Nero.Hope that helped. Good luck. "Can't keep my mind from the circling sky. Tongue-tied & twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #17 December 13, 2001 Buffer underrun is almost always a speed problem. If you're copying from CD to CD, then copy the orginal to the hardrive first. Otherwise, see what else is running at the time you're burning (CTRL + ALT + DEL on win based systems) and stop EVERYTHING that isn't absolutely nessicary, that is taking up valuable CPU bandwidth. Also, you can defrag and scan disk to try to speed up your HD.AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #18 December 13, 2001 OH! also, since this post is lacking...BOOBIES!!!! (sorry, i've been drinking)AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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indyz 1 #3 December 13, 2001 That computer shouldn't be underrunning if all of the hardware is functioning correctly. Could you tell us what you are trying to burn?--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #4 December 13, 2001 yeah, they are both on different IDE channels and are set-up correctly (master/slave). I also have DMA on.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #5 December 13, 2001 Trying to burn music CDs from mp3s on the HD.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #6 December 13, 2001 That ain't right. 850Mhz should be plenty to convert from MP3 to CDDA on the fly. Have you tried forcing it to do the burn at a lower speed?--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #7 December 13, 2001 yeah, i actually put it down to 1x once and it still had buffer underrun. I am thinking that there is a setting wrong or something. -------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #8 December 13, 2001 Try it with the DMA setting switched off - it might make a difference as not all CD drives like it. I skydive, therefore I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #9 December 13, 2001 tried it....i have tried so much stuff, its sick.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites indyz 1 #10 December 13, 2001 Grasping at straws: Trying installing it in another computer, and see if it works their. You might also want to check the IDE cable.--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #11 December 13, 2001 Make sure you have an ATA 66 cable on the system as a min. ATA100 would be better.I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingILweenie 0 #12 December 13, 2001 how bout not doing it on the fly? convert the mp3's to cda tracks, make a disk image, then copy the cd from the disc image.blue skiesTomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #13 December 13, 2001 tried different software? I skydive, therefore I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #14 December 13, 2001 Phree....not too sure about what kind of IDE cable it is. Where would I check that?IL....never tried converting them first. You think if I tried a data CD, it should do it ok?SM.....my last resort is to try Nero, but it came with Easy CD Creator.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #15 December 13, 2001 Check:1. Different software2. Shut down all background tasks ESPECIALLY anti-virus as it changes how files are accessed if any type of real-time protection is enabled.3. Try a new IDE cable (could be a bad cable or some type of resistance problem)4. Re-route the IDE cable if it is near any high-energy RF / power area if you can.5. Make sure PC is at least 2-feet away from the monitor or any other power supply.6. Check for a firmware upgrade for the burner7. Try a new brand of CDR mediaKris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #16 December 13, 2001 Nero, is a better program. Get rid of that crappy-ass EZ Cd Creator. Secondly, I never copy CD's "on the fly" for that very reason. One little spike in what your processor decides to prioritize, and you can just watch that buffer go all the way down to 0% and underrun. Then you have a nice shiny new coaster.My advice would be to check your hardware profile for your burner and make sure there are now weird conflicts, and then try using Nero. In the CD Copy menu, there is a little box that you can uncheck so that it doesn't copy "on the fly". It will read the whole cd into a buffer (hard drive "scratch" area, for you Premiere buffs) and then once the whole CD is essentially on your hard drive it will then write it to the cd-r. In my experience, the write process is much less volatile doing it this way. I can even play mp3's while I write using this method.Don't bother converting to mp3's that is too much work. EZ Cd creator is just an inferior product that seems a little bit more user friendly but just isn't as good as Nero.Hope that helped. Good luck. "Can't keep my mind from the circling sky. Tongue-tied & twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #17 December 13, 2001 Buffer underrun is almost always a speed problem. If you're copying from CD to CD, then copy the orginal to the hardrive first. Otherwise, see what else is running at the time you're burning (CTRL + ALT + DEL on win based systems) and stop EVERYTHING that isn't absolutely nessicary, that is taking up valuable CPU bandwidth. Also, you can defrag and scan disk to try to speed up your HD.AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #18 December 13, 2001 OH! also, since this post is lacking...BOOBIES!!!! (sorry, i've been drinking)AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
mountainman 0 #9 December 13, 2001 tried it....i have tried so much stuff, its sick.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #10 December 13, 2001 Grasping at straws: Trying installing it in another computer, and see if it works their. You might also want to check the IDE cable.--Brian"The sky is lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 December 13, 2001 Make sure you have an ATA 66 cable on the system as a min. ATA100 would be better.I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #12 December 13, 2001 how bout not doing it on the fly? convert the mp3's to cda tracks, make a disk image, then copy the cd from the disc image.blue skiesTomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #13 December 13, 2001 tried different software? I skydive, therefore I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #14 December 13, 2001 Phree....not too sure about what kind of IDE cable it is. Where would I check that?IL....never tried converting them first. You think if I tried a data CD, it should do it ok?SM.....my last resort is to try Nero, but it came with Easy CD Creator.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #15 December 13, 2001 Check:1. Different software2. Shut down all background tasks ESPECIALLY anti-virus as it changes how files are accessed if any type of real-time protection is enabled.3. Try a new IDE cable (could be a bad cable or some type of resistance problem)4. Re-route the IDE cable if it is near any high-energy RF / power area if you can.5. Make sure PC is at least 2-feet away from the monitor or any other power supply.6. Check for a firmware upgrade for the burner7. Try a new brand of CDR mediaKris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #16 December 13, 2001 Nero, is a better program. Get rid of that crappy-ass EZ Cd Creator. Secondly, I never copy CD's "on the fly" for that very reason. One little spike in what your processor decides to prioritize, and you can just watch that buffer go all the way down to 0% and underrun. Then you have a nice shiny new coaster.My advice would be to check your hardware profile for your burner and make sure there are now weird conflicts, and then try using Nero. In the CD Copy menu, there is a little box that you can uncheck so that it doesn't copy "on the fly". It will read the whole cd into a buffer (hard drive "scratch" area, for you Premiere buffs) and then once the whole CD is essentially on your hard drive it will then write it to the cd-r. In my experience, the write process is much less volatile doing it this way. I can even play mp3's while I write using this method.Don't bother converting to mp3's that is too much work. EZ Cd creator is just an inferior product that seems a little bit more user friendly but just isn't as good as Nero.Hope that helped. Good luck. "Can't keep my mind from the circling sky. Tongue-tied & twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #17 December 13, 2001 Buffer underrun is almost always a speed problem. If you're copying from CD to CD, then copy the orginal to the hardrive first. Otherwise, see what else is running at the time you're burning (CTRL + ALT + DEL on win based systems) and stop EVERYTHING that isn't absolutely nessicary, that is taking up valuable CPU bandwidth. Also, you can defrag and scan disk to try to speed up your HD.AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #18 December 13, 2001 OH! also, since this post is lacking...BOOBIES!!!! (sorry, i've been drinking)AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mountainman 0 #14 December 13, 2001 Phree....not too sure about what kind of IDE cable it is. Where would I check that?IL....never tried converting them first. You think if I tried a data CD, it should do it ok?SM.....my last resort is to try Nero, but it came with Easy CD Creator.-------------JumpinDuo.com...news, guestbook, and links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #15 December 13, 2001 Check:1. Different software2. Shut down all background tasks ESPECIALLY anti-virus as it changes how files are accessed if any type of real-time protection is enabled.3. Try a new IDE cable (could be a bad cable or some type of resistance problem)4. Re-route the IDE cable if it is near any high-energy RF / power area if you can.5. Make sure PC is at least 2-feet away from the monitor or any other power supply.6. Check for a firmware upgrade for the burner7. Try a new brand of CDR mediaKris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #16 December 13, 2001 Nero, is a better program. Get rid of that crappy-ass EZ Cd Creator. Secondly, I never copy CD's "on the fly" for that very reason. One little spike in what your processor decides to prioritize, and you can just watch that buffer go all the way down to 0% and underrun. Then you have a nice shiny new coaster.My advice would be to check your hardware profile for your burner and make sure there are now weird conflicts, and then try using Nero. In the CD Copy menu, there is a little box that you can uncheck so that it doesn't copy "on the fly". It will read the whole cd into a buffer (hard drive "scratch" area, for you Premiere buffs) and then once the whole CD is essentially on your hard drive it will then write it to the cd-r. In my experience, the write process is much less volatile doing it this way. I can even play mp3's while I write using this method.Don't bother converting to mp3's that is too much work. EZ Cd creator is just an inferior product that seems a little bit more user friendly but just isn't as good as Nero.Hope that helped. Good luck. "Can't keep my mind from the circling sky. Tongue-tied & twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 December 13, 2001 Buffer underrun is almost always a speed problem. If you're copying from CD to CD, then copy the orginal to the hardrive first. Otherwise, see what else is running at the time you're burning (CTRL + ALT + DEL on win based systems) and stop EVERYTHING that isn't absolutely nessicary, that is taking up valuable CPU bandwidth. Also, you can defrag and scan disk to try to speed up your HD.AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 December 13, 2001 OH! also, since this post is lacking...BOOBIES!!!! (sorry, i've been drinking)AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
