chickenhawk420 0 #51 January 8, 2002 OK, just askin... need a boobies, asss and beer thread that must get you going Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bill2 0 #52 January 8, 2002 The real problem with sort of incident is all the publicity it's going to get. The media will trot out all the usual talking heads who are supposed to be "experts" (who have their head up their asses) in their fields. They will make the usual pronouncements about a particular factor that was at the root cause of all this, or that this particular list of characteristics will identify the next killer. Or the usual bullshit call for banning something, music with certain lyrics/small planes/ guns, etc. The reality is that some kids just screw up, others screw up when they've supposedly had the best life possible, others will do fine no matter they come up against. As others in this thread have pointed out, raising kids is a crap shoot. I hope this doesn't lead a call for banning or strictly limiting general aviation, which could hurt skydiving. And I'm trying really hard not to jump in on the gun control issue, I'm a gun owner.. I better stop right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #53 January 8, 2002 Bill, check some of the old threads, we've done gun control issues a few times in the past. Basically it gets really really nasty in here since we have both sides of the fence and both parties believe strongly in what they believe in.I think last time we all agreed to let it go because it was becoming a pretty big drag on everything. Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.-General George Patton- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #54 January 8, 2002 QuoteI think last time we all agreed to let it go because it was becoming a pretty big drag on everything. That, and I was way, way outnumbered. All of you.... oh, nevermind! Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #55 January 8, 2002 "That, and I was way, way outnumbered"Too easy........"I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #56 January 8, 2002 Keep laughing, keep it up, I'm reloading...j/k hahahahahaSuccess is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.-General George Patton- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #57 January 8, 2002 Simply put, guns, airplanes, cars, and even toothbrushes are dangerous if used improperly or stupidly. But whatever happens, it is always the fault of the person using whatever has become dangerous, not the object's fault for being there.There. Just wanted to stick my thumb in this big gooey mess."Can't keep my mind from the circling sky. Tongue-tied & twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chickenhawk420 0 #58 January 8, 2002 Not pro or anti gun, i beleive if someone wants to do something (for wrong or right) they will guns or no guns. Over here we had dunblane which was horrible and it changed our gun laws (only rifles, shotguns and small calibre, .22, can be owned). The problem is this, at the time the police openly admitted that leagal ownership wasn't the problem because guns used in crime where nearly always blackmarket, it was unusual for people to use their own or steal them. Now does it strike anyone else how stoopid this is, so a .22 can't kill, a shotgun (the choice weapon for armed robberies) can still be legally obtained and very deadly.Even with gun laws, it won't stop the inconspicous houses doing a trade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #59 January 8, 2002 QuoteToo easy........You never let that stop you before. And isn't that a characteristic you look for in your women and your sheep? Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Iflyme 0 #60 January 8, 2002 QuoteAs a first time parentNow your scarin' me, FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefallfreak 0 #61 January 9, 2002 Iflyme,QuoteNow your scarin' me, FFFTee-hee...sorry, Iflyme. I didn't mean to upset you today...but yeah, a first time parent...lol. And concieved on an accuracy pad...lol. But I'm not saying any more except that the Thacker's didn't catch us...lol.FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #62 January 9, 2002 "And concieved on an accuracy pad...lol. But I'm not saying any more except that the Thacker's didn't catch us...lol."EEEEEWWWWWW....Dude......you aren't near the first to christen that pad. In fact I think that pad sees more fornication than accuracy landings......."I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefallfreak 0 #63 January 9, 2002 freeflir29,Quotethat pad sees more fornication than accuracy landings...Yeah, I knew that...lol. But when they turned on the lights, the buzzer went off and people left the campfire to check out who/what was happening, I fell off the pad, grabbed our clothes and tried to hide the better half, but it didn't work...all she did was lay there and laugh at the whole situation...lol, which I saw no humor in...lol. (Hey, you try hiding behind that damn thing while a group of perverts gather around and laugh, while you turn red and everything shrinks...{it was cold that night}...). But we must have hit the target...lol.FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #64 January 9, 2002 "it was cold that night""I was in the pool!!!! Doesn't she understand shrinkage!??!!"-George Kastanza"I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Iflyme 0 #65 January 9, 2002 QuoteWe've certainly had the gun control debate rage on these boards beforeYa -- some of the things said on that subject are what kept me away from this place for a while. We have nothing to gain by going there again. This kid in tampa used a plane that was accessible to hime as a weapon, so that proves that it does have something (not everything, but something) to do with access... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Iflyme 0 #66 January 9, 2002 FFFQuoteAnd concieved on an accuracy padnow THAT I'd like to see! Congrats, old man. Hope your kid is wonderful... my 2 girls sure are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefallfreak 0 #67 January 9, 2002 Iflyme,Thank you, sir...(whew, what a long, strange trip it has been...).FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
bill2 0 #52 January 8, 2002 The real problem with sort of incident is all the publicity it's going to get. The media will trot out all the usual talking heads who are supposed to be "experts" (who have their head up their asses) in their fields. They will make the usual pronouncements about a particular factor that was at the root cause of all this, or that this particular list of characteristics will identify the next killer. Or the usual bullshit call for banning something, music with certain lyrics/small planes/ guns, etc. The reality is that some kids just screw up, others screw up when they've supposedly had the best life possible, others will do fine no matter they come up against. As others in this thread have pointed out, raising kids is a crap shoot. I hope this doesn't lead a call for banning or strictly limiting general aviation, which could hurt skydiving. And I'm trying really hard not to jump in on the gun control issue, I'm a gun owner.. I better stop right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #53 January 8, 2002 Bill, check some of the old threads, we've done gun control issues a few times in the past. Basically it gets really really nasty in here since we have both sides of the fence and both parties believe strongly in what they believe in.I think last time we all agreed to let it go because it was becoming a pretty big drag on everything. Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.-General George Patton- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #54 January 8, 2002 QuoteI think last time we all agreed to let it go because it was becoming a pretty big drag on everything. That, and I was way, way outnumbered. All of you.... oh, nevermind! Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #55 January 8, 2002 "That, and I was way, way outnumbered"Too easy........"I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #56 January 8, 2002 Keep laughing, keep it up, I'm reloading...j/k hahahahahaSuccess is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.-General George Patton- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #57 January 8, 2002 Simply put, guns, airplanes, cars, and even toothbrushes are dangerous if used improperly or stupidly. But whatever happens, it is always the fault of the person using whatever has become dangerous, not the object's fault for being there.There. Just wanted to stick my thumb in this big gooey mess."Can't keep my mind from the circling sky. Tongue-tied & twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenhawk420 0 #58 January 8, 2002 Not pro or anti gun, i beleive if someone wants to do something (for wrong or right) they will guns or no guns. Over here we had dunblane which was horrible and it changed our gun laws (only rifles, shotguns and small calibre, .22, can be owned). The problem is this, at the time the police openly admitted that leagal ownership wasn't the problem because guns used in crime where nearly always blackmarket, it was unusual for people to use their own or steal them. Now does it strike anyone else how stoopid this is, so a .22 can't kill, a shotgun (the choice weapon for armed robberies) can still be legally obtained and very deadly.Even with gun laws, it won't stop the inconspicous houses doing a trade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #59 January 8, 2002 QuoteToo easy........You never let that stop you before. And isn't that a characteristic you look for in your women and your sheep? Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #60 January 8, 2002 QuoteAs a first time parentNow your scarin' me, FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #61 January 9, 2002 Iflyme,QuoteNow your scarin' me, FFFTee-hee...sorry, Iflyme. I didn't mean to upset you today...but yeah, a first time parent...lol. And concieved on an accuracy pad...lol. But I'm not saying any more except that the Thacker's didn't catch us...lol.FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #62 January 9, 2002 "And concieved on an accuracy pad...lol. But I'm not saying any more except that the Thacker's didn't catch us...lol."EEEEEWWWWWW....Dude......you aren't near the first to christen that pad. In fact I think that pad sees more fornication than accuracy landings......."I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #63 January 9, 2002 freeflir29,Quotethat pad sees more fornication than accuracy landings...Yeah, I knew that...lol. But when they turned on the lights, the buzzer went off and people left the campfire to check out who/what was happening, I fell off the pad, grabbed our clothes and tried to hide the better half, but it didn't work...all she did was lay there and laugh at the whole situation...lol, which I saw no humor in...lol. (Hey, you try hiding behind that damn thing while a group of perverts gather around and laugh, while you turn red and everything shrinks...{it was cold that night}...). But we must have hit the target...lol.FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #64 January 9, 2002 "it was cold that night""I was in the pool!!!! Doesn't she understand shrinkage!??!!"-George Kastanza"I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #65 January 9, 2002 QuoteWe've certainly had the gun control debate rage on these boards beforeYa -- some of the things said on that subject are what kept me away from this place for a while. We have nothing to gain by going there again. This kid in tampa used a plane that was accessible to hime as a weapon, so that proves that it does have something (not everything, but something) to do with access... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #66 January 9, 2002 FFFQuoteAnd concieved on an accuracy padnow THAT I'd like to see! Congrats, old man. Hope your kid is wonderful... my 2 girls sure are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #67 January 9, 2002 Iflyme,Thank you, sir...(whew, what a long, strange trip it has been...).FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
