freeflir29 0 #26 February 6, 2002 "Undercarriage- "Down and welded" or..... Up and severly bent....... *after touch and go*"Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #27 February 6, 2002 lol....I had my fair share of...shall we say...."firm" landings when I was a student, but I must say...I've never had one that firm! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #28 February 6, 2002 a short while after I moved to VA i heard they had a temp-pilot at my last DZ (gold coast skydivers) who belly landed the plane (i think it was the beech-99) simply because he forgot to put the gear down.Can you believe that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #29 February 6, 2002 QuoteHowever, I think the incident got blown way out of proportion. Isn't "fuel switch to both" the first thing on the check list? *shrug*Which part of the First Jump Course wasn't clear when they said "Don't touch any of the pilot controls. Ever." Chris SchindlerD-19012ATP/CFIIwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #30 February 6, 2002 "Can you believe that!"Yes, in fact I can. There are some very, i dunno, "not-with-it" pilots out there. I have personally observed 3 aircraft land gear up: A Beech 1900 because of a mechanical problem with one or two of the gear, not sure exactly what. A Mooney because of a mechanical problem with the pilots freaking brain, and a Seminole because of the same problem.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #31 February 6, 2002 "Which part of the First Jump Course wasn't clear when they said "Don't touch any of the pilot controls. Ever." "Well..I have to say...yes skydivers shouldn't mess with controls.""Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #32 February 6, 2002 Now that's funny! Not really a good thing to do but really funny. I've done that when I had a licensed pilot/jumper in the right seat I've crawled to the back of the Otter to have a conversation. Gets more than one persons attention. Did it when I flew my last load at Monterey Bay. Skip the photographer was pretty startled when I tapped him on the shoulder. I don't think he was expecting me when he looked up. Chris SchindlerD-19012ATP/CFIIwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #33 February 6, 2002 "A Mooney"Yep...watch out..those Mooney's will bite ya. Can you believe I was considering buying a Mooney with me having 60 hrs TT. Good thing I didn't..kinda like buying a Stilletto right out of AFF...."Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #34 February 6, 2002 QuoteIsn't "fuel switch to both" the first thing on the check list? On my first few jumps, I noticed that the pilot would reach down and touch the switch right after somebody moved into the door position.--BrianHomepage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #35 February 6, 2002 "Skip the photographer was pretty startled when I tapped him on the shoulder."I want to see a pilot push pass the tandems and bail out. THAT....would be priceless....."Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #36 February 6, 2002 QuoteCan you believe that!Yes I can. I read all about them every day on the FAA Daily Intake website. Aircraft land gear up every day of the week. That pilot made a very human mistake. When you get to cranking load after load it's easy to forget where you are. And since we crank load after load we (as jump pilots) tend not to use a written check list. This leads us down the road to forget and then land with the gear folded. Ooops.Chris SchindlerD-19012ATP/CFIIwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #37 February 6, 2002 Actually ours was, "Don't molest the pilot".She was a rather cute little 20 something with red hair and freckles. Yummy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #38 February 6, 2002 Quoten the 182 at my home DZ, sometimes we'll unzip the headliner in the back and pull one of the cables...that usually gets the newer pilots. Sounds like Skydive Goshen. Bo, one of my instructors, used to always do that. Would scare the piss out of some students.That and he always handed out lifesavers(the candy) telling the students they were a necessary piece of safety equipment: "They'll save your life". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #39 February 6, 2002 "She was a rather cute little 20 something with red hair and freckles. Yummy."We do need more Chic pilots!!!!"Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #40 February 6, 2002 Well, a long story short.....I came to Skydive Chicago as a packer. Only two people knew I was a pilot and had jump pilot experience. I didn't broadcast this info either. Well, they needed me in the DC-3 Mr. Douglas one day for the right seat and so I filled in. Man, the looks I got getting up there. A few grumbles of "Man, they'll let anyone get up there as long as they have a heart beat." So, low and behold I start training for the Twin Otter during the week and packing on the weekend still. Then the time comes....I'm in the left seat and Roger Nelson is in the right. A few odd stares come our way but some one says something about "Oh, he's got some time" or another. Climbing to altitude Roger gets up, tightens down, and bails out the plane. Now that was a lot of startled faces! Not to mention my first solo landing in the Otter. Chris SchindlerD-19012ATP/CFIIwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #41 February 6, 2002 There's stories floating around a dz of skydivers grabbing the key to the 182 before leaving.I was suprised to hear there WAS a key in the 182._Am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #42 February 6, 2002 it wasent the beech 99 it another plane (cant remember what it is) its still sitting on the tarmack(gear is down now) waiting for new propellersits not my fault,my mind was not clearits all because of the heineken beer...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #43 February 6, 2002 How about when the pilots screw with the jumpers.......... One time before a big way I was set up in the back of the Otter (one of the last to get out) and just as people start running out the door pilot reaches over takes my leg strap with a death grip and wouldn't let me go... He only held on for three seconds but the way started the first point without me.......dickieSeb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #44 February 6, 2002 QuoteWe do need more Chic pilots!!!! But then how would we be able to get one of the female skydivers to get us some more al-TIT-ude???Speed Racer"Fill your hand, you son-of-a-bitch!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #45 February 6, 2002 How bout Lesbian chic pilots?"I am a victim of my environment."Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #46 February 6, 2002 "But then how would we be able to get one of the female skydivers to get us some more al-TIT-ude"I'll let willy fly co-pilot...."Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #47 February 6, 2002 A similar story. Our DZ used to be located about 4.5 miles from the landing area. Terry used to be one of our bus drivers and most people didn't know that he was a very experienced pilot. After our previous pilot, the one who freaked out the TM, left for another job, Terry started flying. The first time Terry walked out to the plane, told everyone to get in and climbed into the left seat everyone started laughing, except those of us who knew. You should have see everyone's laugh turn to fright when Terry started taxiing down the runway. Someone later asked him if he had a pilots license. Terry said, "Hell no." The kid asked how come he was allowed to fly the plane then. Terry told him he was allowed to fly because he drove the bus for 7 years and the DZO figured if he could drive the bus that long without an incident he must be able to fly too. Too friggin' funny Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #48 February 6, 2002 "he was allowed to fly because he drove the bus for 7 years and the DZO figured if he could drive the bus that long without an incident he must be able to fly too"That's a better record than most pilots I know..."Houston? That place is full of Crack heads and debutantes."- Hank HillClay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #49 February 6, 2002 QuoteThat's a better record than most pilots I know...You need to meet more pilots.Chris SchindlerD-19012ATP/CFIIwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonno5 0 #50 February 7, 2002 There are those that have and those that will.Signed Jonno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites