lazerq3 0 #1 February 9, 2002 WOOOPEEE!!! I just ordered my FIRRRR............I mean FINEST NEW canopy. ordered a Hornet 150 from that web site in South Africa. Should be here in 4 to 6 weeks!!!! And now the wait. Its going to be Top skin/ bottom skin 1-4 and 6-9 noen green,,,, 5th neon yellow.....all the ribs, slider, and both stabs RED!! Kinda crazy but I thought it looked cool when I put it together!!! GOing form a PD 170 F-111 (1.0-1) to a ZP (1.14-1). So not to big of a downsize but enough for me to start learing a lot more in canopy flight!!!!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #2 February 9, 2002 lazerq3,Congrats, dude...Wait...SOUTH AFRICA??? Isn't that where Skreamer, Sangrio and a few others are from?? Uhh, check the material for uhh, err, hmm, "stains?"...TripleFBOOBIES, BOOBIES, BOOBIES, BOOBIES...(Whoops, I said it again...Tee-hee...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 February 9, 2002 Any idea on what the import tarriff is going to be on it?Political Correctness-At least one person at any one time will be offended by something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #4 February 9, 2002 The guy there (manny) said that it was going to be 800 R to ship which is about 85$ !! .WHy do you know something there not telling me?jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #5 February 9, 2002 Import duties/taxes, jason. Anything coming into the US is subject to them - it's usually a percentage of the total value (ie how much you paid) of the item. You may want to check with Customs to find out for sure how much, but I can almost guarantee you'll have to pay something... pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #6 February 9, 2002 Quotebut I can almost guarantee you'll have to pay somethingDOH!!!!!!!!!! O'well....its still a great deal on a great canopyjason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 February 9, 2002 Most times import Tax runs between 5-15% based on the object and its value. Plus there is the actual import fee to consider too.Political Correctness-At least one person at any one time will be offended by something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #8 February 9, 2002 *whistling*Unless it's a gift and they'll send it that way. *whistling*JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 February 9, 2002 That would be in violation of several international laws and the goverments could easly revoke the privilage to import/export products from that company anymore. Personally, if it was my business on the line I'd say sorry about the luck.... here is the taxes to pay.Political Correctness-At least one person at any one time will be offended by something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #10 February 9, 2002 Whether its over sea, or in the states your still going to pay taxes either way so it really doesnt matter too much do it?jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #11 February 9, 2002 What? I didn't say anything. I was whistling. Didn't you hear me? JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #12 February 9, 2002 QuoteWhether its over sea, or in the states your still going to pay taxes either way so it really doesnt matter too much do it?Actually, when you buy in the states but out of your own, you don't have to pay the state taxes (6-7% or so). Right? Or is that just a figment of my imagination?JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #13 February 9, 2002 Quoteyour still going to pay taxes either way Depends on where you live and where you're buying from. Where I work we have to charge 7.75% California sales tax on any item that is picked up at our location in Perris or shipped to an address within California. We don't have to charge sales tax on anything shipped outside California, so we sometimes recommend that our California customers plan a trip to another state or they have us ship the items to a friend or relative who lives in another state. We don't add duties/taxes to packages shipped outside the US; those are imposed and collected by the government of the country that the package is shipped to. For our customers overseas we sometimes ship to one of their friends or relatives within the US. What happens after that is none of our business.pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #14 February 9, 2002 QuoteWe don't have to charge sales tax on anything shipped outside California, so we sometimes recommend that our California customers plan a trip to another state or they have us ship the items to a friend or relative who lives in another state.Yeah...this is what I'm talking about. If stuff is ordered from Ohio, I would just have it shipped to the DZ or something. Saves you some big bucks if you buy something expensive.QuoteFor our customers overseas we sometimes ship to one of their friends or relatives within the US. What happens after that is none of our business.What are you refering to, Lisa?!? JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 February 9, 2002 Alright.... after looking into way too many Government websites....If you are importing a Parachute (including dirigible parachutes) and rotochutes; parts & access. thereof and the shipping country has Most Favored Nation Tade status with the United States then there is a 3% plus processing fee at the border. If the nation is not a MFN then the import fee is 50% plus processing fee. Delay at most Gates of entry is less then 1 hour. Way over half of those are less then 10 minutesPolitical Correctness-At least one person at any one time will be offended by something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #16 February 9, 2002 Any word if SA is MFN? If not, I think they would either have a hard time selling canopies to the USA or they are made for WAY cheap.JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #17 February 9, 2002 yeah are they MFN???? I might be cancelling that order if there going to charge me 50%!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #18 February 9, 2002 Yeah it looks like SA is a MFN.Political Correctness-At least one person at any one time will be offended by something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #19 February 9, 2002 DID a little reaserch of my own and this is one thing I found:Nearly all U.S. trading partners have "Normal Trade Relations" (NTR) status (formerly known as Most Favored-Nation status). The name was changed in 1998 because the term Most Favored-Nation status was deceiving since most nations have this trade status except for a handful of rogue nations that have been refused this normal trade relationship . The products from all countries that have been given NTR are subject to the same tariffs when they enter the United States. When the United States lowers tariff rates, or eliminates or changes tariff rates, that change is applied equally to all NTR countries. Merchandise coming from NTR countries are dutiable under the rates in the General column under column 1 of the United States Harmonized Tariff Schedule. Imports from the few countries that do not have NTR face significantly higher tariff rates. NTR is actually the norm in bilateral trade relationships between countries. Under NTR both parties agree not to extend to any third party nation any trade preferences that are more favorable than those available under the agreement concluded between them unless they simultaneously make the same provisions available to each other. Although NTR is a reciprocal agreement, it must be negotiated separately with each country. Furthermore, each individual agreement must include additional and specific provisions that take into account national security, dispute settlement procedures, trade promotion, and various other considerations. In 1948 the United States joined the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT). At the same time the United States agreed to extend what was then called Most Favored-Nation status (MFN) to all other countries. The status was also extended to some countries that did not join GATT. In 1951, the U.S. Congress directed President Harry Truman to revoke MFN status to the Soviet Union and other Communist countries. Yugoslavia was not part of this exclusion. During the Cold War, most Communist countries were either denied MFN or had to meet certain conditions to be granted the status. Currently, the United States extends NTR/MFN status to all members of the World Trade Organization (WTO) and most other countries. As of May 1997, the countries of Afghanistan, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam, and Serbia/Montenegro have been excluded from NTR/MFN. Countries that wish to have NTR must fulfill two basic requirements: 1) comply with the Jackson-Vanik provisions of the Trade Act of 1974 that states that the President of the United States determines that a country neither denies or impedes the right or opportunity of its citizens to emigrate; 2) reaching a bilateral commercial agreement with the United States. NTR qualifications for Serbia/Montenegro may differ. Congressional action has denied NTR status to the reconstituted state of Yugoslavia (Serbia) in reaction to the armed conflict in the region and human rights abuses committed after the breakup of the old Yugoslavia. There currently are a few countries which must obtain an annual presidential waiver or extension of a waiver to continue their NTR status. China is the most important country in this group which must obtain an annual waiver to maintain NTR. The waiver for China has been in effect since 1980. Every year, since 1989, legislation has been introduced in Congress to disapprove the President's waiver. The legislation has sought to tie China's NTR renewal to meeting certain human rights conditions that go beyond freedom of emigration. Through 1998, attempts to deny China NTR have failed. NTR is likely to be approved for China in 1999 as well. Libya, Iran, and Iraq have NTR, however, U.S. laws have imposed trade embargoes with these countries. So it sounds like SA is good to go and that only a very few do not have this status..........Thanks for the heads up Phreezone!!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #20 February 9, 2002 The things we learn here on dropzone.com....Thanks for posting that Jason! Oh... and btw..... since this is your FIRST custom canopy....wouldn't that be....BEER!!!!!!pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #21 February 9, 2002 QuoteNearly all U.S. trading partners have "Normal Trade Relations" (NTR) status (formerly known as Most Favored-Nation status). The name was changed in 1998 because the term Most Favored-Nation status was deceiving since most nations have this trade status except for a handful of rogue nations that have been refused this normal trade relationship . The products from all countries that have been given NTR are subject to the same tariffs when they enter the United States. When the United States lowers tariff rates, or eliminates or changes tariff rates, that change is applied equally to all NTR countries. Merchandise coming from NTR countries are dutiable under the rates in the General column under column 1 of the United States Harmonized Tariff Schedule. Imports from the few countries that do not have NTR face significantly higher tariff rates. Agreements like NAFTA - North American Free Trade Agreemnt supersede NTR. There is no duty or imports on goods from Canada or Mexico. It is expected that this will be extended to all legitimately governed nations in Central and South America as well. The purpose of this is to create a trading block to rival the European Union.QuoteThere currently are a few countries which must obtain an annual presidential waiver or extension of a waiver to continue their NTR status. China is the most important country in this group which must obtain an annual waiver to maintain NTR. The waiver for China has been in effect since 1980. Every year, since 1989, legislation has been introduced in Congress to disapprove the President's waiver. The legislation has sought to tie China's NTR renewal to meeting certain human rights conditions that go beyond freedom of emigration. Through 1998, attempts to deny China NTR have failed. NTR is likely to be approved for China in 1999 as well. China was admitted into the WTO in 2000, which grants permanent NTR status. China no longer needs the presidential waiver.Lastly, Larsen and Brusegard recently shipped me a new Pro-Track. They mailled it, and there was no duty or customs charges. I wonder if this is because a: it was a free replacement, or b: the retail cost is under a certain bar._Am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #22 February 9, 2002 QuoteThere is no duty or imports on goods from Canada or Mexico. Which is kind of strange, cuz my customers up there in the frozen north get stuck paying duties all the time. What's up with that?pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #23 February 9, 2002 QuoteWhich is kind of strange, cuz my customers up there in the frozen north get stuck paying duties all the time. What's up with that?The specifics of NAFTA is that there's a gradual reduction in tarrifs. Electronic goods, cars, anda few other happened immediately. Other things are changing slowly.http://www.nafta-customs.org/docs/us/fr_may12.html is a really neat read, worth a cursury glance. It details, among other things, when Charcoal Briquettes will be tarrif free._Am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #24 February 9, 2002 QuoteOh... and btw..... since this is your FIRST custom canopy....wouldn't that be....I said FINEST.........FINEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok you got me !!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #25 February 9, 2002 Oh and by the way I forgot to metion that because if this purchase I wont be able to come down to elsinore on the 23rd, but as soon as my $$$ sphyxter (sp) loosens up I'll be down!!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
